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Old 01-22-2025, 01:27 PM   #31
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And this one ?


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Old 01-22-2025, 02:18 PM   #32
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OMG! Literally Hitler.
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Old 01-22-2025, 02:32 PM   #33
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... He's a Spaz
No.



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... he's got autism
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... he's got asperbergers
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... he's socially awkward
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... He dropped his facade for a moment and musks real self came out.
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... He plainly gives the nazi salute.
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... Full video. Unaltered. Right there on stage.
Full nazi salute
No more excuses for this despicable man.
You posted the video. You have made a bunch of claims, and everyone has told you that you are mistaken.
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Old 01-22-2025, 03:05 PM   #34
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What does this gesture mean ?



... That's called a "pose" there, mate.
Like the Great Hulk Hogan does - when he shows off
his muscles... I'd sometimes do the same thing after
scoring a goal on the football pitch.

... Musk doing the "Winning" pose! ...

#### Salty
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Old 01-22-2025, 04:10 PM   #35
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Not buying it. Without a doubt that was a nazi sieg Heil salute.
He's committing his heart to nazism
Caught on video!
I think he wants to be fired. Him supporting Trump was all a political stunt. Musk is an insanely smart guy and capable of planning things on a deep level like this.
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Old 01-22-2025, 04:20 PM   #36
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I have read the 1930 NAZI platform.

Of its 25 points I have seen 23 repeated by Dems [American Dems do not advocate for annexing Austria or else it would be 25 out of 25].

Are there any NAZI points that Trump is pushing?

Name one, please.
Nazi's were a facsist political party and I present to you the 14 points of fascism and how they compare to trump. This is a list of 13, one of the 14 trump didn't display, can't remember which.

1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism.

Donald Trump has called himself a "proud nationalist," often repeating the motto "America first." Nationalism can pass for simple patriotic pride in one's country. However, in Trump's case, his ties to white nationalists like Steve Bannon and his alarming rhetoric about immigration, diversity, and repeated calls to "take our country back" all suggest a more sinister, fascistic form of national pride that elevates an imagined ideal of the nation over the rights of the actual people who live in it.


2. Disdain for the importance of human rights.

During the Trump presidency, the Columbia Human Rights Law Review created and regularly updated a Trump Administration Human Rights Tracker to monitor his impact on human rights domestically and abroad. From his administration releasing federal rules that allow employers to deny insurance coverage for birth control to separating children from their parents at the border (among many more problematic actions), Trump's policies showed a repeated lack of regard for human rights to autonomy, health, and freedom from discrimination and persecution.

3. Identification of enemies as a unifying cause.

Trump often relies on inflammatory rhetoric about his "enemies" to rile up his base, and his favorite boogeyman by far is immigration. He infamously said immigrants are "poisoning the blood of our country." During the most recent Presidential Debate, he falsely insisted that Haitian immigrants in Ohio are eating dogs and cats. He has repeatedly blamed immigrants for inflation and other economic issues (never mind the fact that inflation spiked worldwide due to the pandemic). There are so many examples of him scapegoating immigrants that I could go on listing them all day, but we still have 11 more signs of fascism to go, so I'll leave it here.

4. The supremacy of the military.

Despite portraying himself as an anti-war candidate, Trump has a long-standing preoccupation with using the military in service of his agenda. During his presidency, he indulged in a dictator-style military parade and was criticized for overreliance on military might in his foreign policy endeavors. He has campaigned on using the military to round up and deport immigrants. And, in recent days, Trump has spoken about using the military to go after his political opponents and regular citizens who disagree with him.

5. Rampant sexism.

The way that Trump talks about and treats women is, unfortunately, old news. From the infamous "grab them by the pussy" tape to the 27 allegations of sexual misconduct against him, Trump's words and actions show that he sees women as a means to his own sexual pleasure and little else. His choice of J.D. Vance, who seemingly can't stop saying weird things about women, as his running mate shows that sexism continues to be part of the Trump agenda.

6. Controlled mass media.

Trump doesn't control the media (yet), but he would definitely like to. If re-elected, Trump has threatened to imprison journalists who report facts he doesn't like. He has also called for CBS's broadcast license to be revoked following their interview with his opponent, Vice President Kamala Harris.

7. Religion and government intertwined.

Trump is not himself a particularly religious man, but he continually appeals to the religious right, as in his campaign's "Believers for Trump" program and his side hustle as a bible salesperson. And his administration took several steps that right-wing evangelicals long wished for, like appointing the conservative Supreme Court justices who would go on to overturn Roe V. Wade. Additionally, Trump's ties to the Christian nationalist agenda in Project 2025 indicate that a second Trump term would do even more to intermingle religion and government.

8. Corporate power protected.

In office, Trump enabled corporations to amass more money and power at the expense of working people. He cut the corporate tax rate from 35% to 21%, which led to a boom in corporate stock buybacks instead of "trickling down." His administration also rolled back over 100 environmental regulations and deregulated food safety.

9. Labor power suppressed.

Trump claims to be pro-worker, but his track record and statements about labor don't appear to show a leader with workers' interests in mind. His administration implemented rules that made it harder for workers to unionize their workplaces. He has also praised Elon Musk for allegedly firing striking workers and bragged about not paying employees overtime.

10. Disdain for intellectuals and the arts.

Trump's increasingly tenuous relationship with the truth goes hand in hand with his disdain for intellectuals. He's cast doubt on experts in everything from climate change to COVID-19, with serious consequences. He couldn't stop the spread of COVID by slowing down testing no more than he could change the course of a hurricane with a Sharpie. Rejecting evidence-based study, Trump prefers to remain in an echo chamber where he is always right, regardless of what's actually happening before all of our eyes.

11. Obsession with crime and punishment.

Rates of violent crime and property crime have fallen significantly since the 1990s, but you'd never know it to hear Trump talk. His rallies have long featured exaggerated rhetoric around crime and talk of "American carnage." For a recent example, at a campaign event in Detroit, he claimed, "You can’t walk across the street to get a loaf of bread. You get shot, you get mugged, you get raped." When confronted with actual falling crime statistics from the FBI, he said, "They didn’t include the cities with the worst crimes. It was a fraud." He also recently suggested that "one tough, violent day" of policing could end crime. You know, like the dystopian plot of The Purge.

12. Rampant cronyism and corruption.

Trump himself has been found guilty of 34 felony charges in a trial that took place earlier this year over falsifying business records to cover up hush money paid to adult actress Stormy Daniels as part of a scheme to influence the 2016 election. Additionally, he still faces three more felony indictments. Quite a few of his allies have also had criminal charges brought against them, including Steve Bannon, Roger Stone, and Michael Cohen.

13. Fraudulent elections.

Donald Trump is the only president in American history to attempt to overthrow the results of a free and fair election. In 2020, Trump declared victory before the vote count was complete, and then, when it became clear that he had lost, he refused to accept the election results. He pressured former Vice President Mike Pence to overturn the election and spread lies about the election results that arguably incited the January 6 riot. Now, he's laying the groundwork to challenge the outcome again in 2024. He's reportedly already talking with lawyers about contesting the result of an election that hasn't even happened yet.
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Old 01-22-2025, 04:26 PM   #37
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I have read the 1930 NAZI platform.

Of its 25 points I have seen 23 repeated by Dems [American Dems do not advocate for annexing Austria or else it would be 25 out of 25].

Are there any NAZI points that Trump is pushing?

Name one, please.
In addition to my previous post I looked up the 25 points and you are full of shit in comparing them to Democrats in a bad way.

Additionally I don't label the entire Republican party as fascist. This is only regarding trumps actions and since he leads the Republican party and controls many of the congress members future it applies to them and any maga loyalists. The good side of the Republican party (that trump calls Rinos) are in general great Americans.
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Old 01-22-2025, 06:23 PM   #38
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WOW. A DOUBLE NAZI SALUTE
That must mean than Elon is twice the NAZI as Hitler
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Old 01-22-2025, 06:25 PM   #39
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By the way, I listen to Clay Travis and Buck Sexton yesterday, and they agree that anybody thinking Elon was giving the NAZI salute is a total moron.

Their words, not mine.
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Old 01-22-2025, 06:32 PM   #40
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By the way, I listen to Clay Travis and Buck Sexton yesterday, and they agree that anybody thinking Elon was giving the NAZI salute is a total moron.

Their words, not mine.
Who the fuck are they and do they have eyesight? Only a moron wouldn't think that was identical to a Nazi salute.
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Old 01-23-2025, 06:40 AM   #41
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Nazi's were a facsist political party and I present to you the 14 points of fascism and how they compare to trump. This is a list of 13, one of the 14 trump didn't display, can't remember which.
That looks like a 'list' you made up.

Can you provide a link to where this 'list' is presented from the NAZIs?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation...ialist_Program
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Old 01-23-2025, 06:54 AM   #42
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By the way, I listen to Clay Travis and Buck Sexton yesterday, and they agree that anybody thinking Elon was giving the NAZI salute is a total moron.
Obviously, this is the case with the Nazi salute truthers. They got their asses handed to them in the election and will lash out at anything, regardless of how ridiculous it is. They’re just getting warmed up too, and don’t care how retarded they look to normal people.
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Old 01-23-2025, 06:55 AM   #43
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That looks like a 'list' you made up.

Can you provide a link to where this 'list' is presented from the NAZIs?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation...ialist_Program
Made up? Think I'm smart enough to make this shit up? There is only one Nazi that is fucking trump.
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There is only one Nazi that is fucking trump.
What’s her name?
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