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01-22-2021, 10:40 AM
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Quatsch!
Join Date: Dec 30, 2009
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All I know is when ObamaCare went into effect my rates went up for less coverage. When most of the act forcing coverage was repealed they went back down.
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01-22-2021, 12:39 PM
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Join Date: Dec 12, 2009
Location: near Lake Ontario
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Originally Posted by bf0082
If anyone lost their insurance coverage, that they had previously before Obamacare, 2009, they most likely were going to lose it, or not be able to afford it in a few years anyways... 2012,2016,2020..... might have gotten a few more miles out of it, maybe 5-10 years more.
1990 most fulltime jobs offered paid healthcare and pensions, 2020 both are almost figments of one's imagination. To think you could afford, or your plan from 2008 wouldn't change by now and that you would still have it is unlikely at best.
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Wrong
what I had still less than Obama approved care
And went down as in CryptKicker post
but Obama approved care still went UP UP UP
like I said, if ya didn't live it ya don't know
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01-22-2021, 12:42 PM
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Quatsch!
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The great thing on mine was after the rate went back down my coverage actually increased! Lol
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01-22-2021, 12:57 PM
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The great thing on mine was after the rate went back down my coverage actually increased! Lol
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In a meeting company I work for buying a another company. That place still has choice of BCBS or MVP. I stated that and asked will we get back or they get the shaft. Not many times in a meeting a VP will say "they will get fucked out of good health care." TRUE story
in the meeting when I lost the choice. The same VP started the meeting with "Sorry about this but..."
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01-22-2021, 06:21 PM
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I’m not sure what was repealed, the fact uninsured wealthy not being fined was thrown out, nothing changed with existing conditions, kids on insurance until 25 and no maximum payout.
What was repealed as I understand Obamacare hasn’t changed
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01-22-2021, 08:37 PM
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Join Date: Jan 7, 2010
Location: Upset NY
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And if you say my life matters... you are a racist....
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OK. Your life ain’t worth shit.
See, I love everyone.......
elg......
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01-22-2021, 08:53 PM
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Join Date: Apr 26, 2020
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The Affordable Care Act's '80/20' rule delivered $1.37 billion in premium refunds to 8.9 million Americans in 2019, its eighth year.
https://www.healthinsurance.org/obam...ratio-rebates/
Reading what was written, I actually believe you are showing that Obamacare is working and is doing what it was supposed to do.
I know the last place you'd here about premium refunds is on Fox News, cause it doesn't fit their narrative.
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01-23-2021, 06:26 AM
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Join Date: Dec 19, 2009
Location: Buffalo NY
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Originally Posted by CryptKicker
All I know is when ObamaCare went into effect my rates went up for less coverage. When most of the act forcing coverage was repealed they went back down.
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Sucks for you, i suppose. When Obamacare went into effect, my coverage increased to Cadillac plan status and my rate was cut in half.
And because this is an internet chat board for reviewing hookers, you damn well should believe me.
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01-23-2021, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by bf0082
The Affordable Care Act's '80/20' rule delivered $1.37 billion in premium refunds to 8.9 million Americans in 2019, its eighth year.
https://www.healthinsurance.org/obam...ratio-rebates/
Reading what was written, I actually believe you are showing that Obamacare is working and is doing what it was supposed to do.
I know the last place you'd here about premium refunds is on Fox News, cause it doesn't fit their narrative.
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 How many insurance company's went under.
Whats Fox news  is it a better hooker board ????
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01-23-2021, 08:31 AM
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Math is hard.
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Originally Posted by Paulie Rockstar
But my insurance premium went up 800%....
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I thought this was about heathcare?
I know that my premiums went from $20 a week for a Cadillac Plan to $80 a week when we got saddled with Obamacare... and the plan was no longer Cadillac...
Cost me 4 times as much for less coverage... but the illegals got it for free....
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You people need to keep your make believe straight.
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01-23-2021, 08:34 AM
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Join Date: Jan 4, 2010
Location: The Great State of Ennui
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Originally Posted by offshoredrilling
Whats Fox news  is it a better hooker board ????
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It would almost HAVE to be....
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01-23-2021, 08:36 AM
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Join Date: Jan 4, 2010
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Originally Posted by Doove
Sucks for you, i suppose. When Obamacare went into effect, my coverage increased to Cadillac plan status and my rate was cut in half.
And because this is an internet chat board for reviewing hookers, you damn well should believe me.
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Sounds like you got a Robin Hood plan... they stole it from me and gave it to you...
I went from cadillac to mopar.... and paid 4x for the downgrade...
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And my employer who paid 80% to my 20% paid 4x as well
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01-23-2021, 09:51 AM
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Join Date: Dec 19, 2009
Location: Buffalo NY
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Originally Posted by Paulie Rockstar
Sounds like you got a Robin Hood plan... they stole it from me and gave it to you...
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I have zero bankruptcies to my credit, so i think you have the attempted analogy backwards.
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And my employer who paid 80% to my 20% paid 4x as well
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So, based on your 20/80 ratio, your share going from $20/wk to $80/wk means your monthly premium, total, went from $400/mo to $1600/mo. Even that, on its face i think is bullshit. But even if true, it still doesn't add up to an 800% increase.
Wanna try again?
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01-23-2021, 09:58 AM
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Join Date: Dec 12, 2009
Location: near Lake Ontario
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Originally Posted by Doove
I have zero bankruptcies to my credit, so i think you have the attempted analogy backwards.
So, based on your 20/80 ratio, your share going from $20/wk to $80/wk means your monthly premium, total, went from $400/mo to $1600/mo. Even that, on its face i think is bullshit. But even if true, it still doesn't add up to an 800% increase.
Wanna try again?
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well that is less than Obama's 4K per month Cadillac care tax in the Obamacare act
was it Nancy that said "you have to pass it to know whats in it" ????
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01-23-2021, 11:43 AM
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Join Date: Dec 19, 2009
Location: Buffalo NY
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Originally Posted by offshoredrilling
well that is less than Obama's 4K per month Cadillac care tax in the Obamacare act
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So you're admitting that Paulie lied to make a pretend point.
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was it Nancy that said "you have to pass it to know whats in it" ????
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Full quote: "“We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy.”
In other words, so long as lunatics keep telling you that there will be government death panels, and so long as ignorant lunatics keep pretending to believe it, we'll need to pass the bill to find out if there are, in fact, death panels in the bill.
Narrator: "There were no death panels".
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