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Old 08-24-2020, 03:35 PM   #31
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Typical non-thinking leftists marxist response.

It is difficult to put careful thought to issues .
far easier for the marxist DPST's to be led unthinking like lemmings.
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Old 08-24-2020, 03:39 PM   #32
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All the Biden team, including a lot of Republicans, have to do is just run ads of trump being really really stupid. That's a daily occurrence w the idiot in chief
speaking of Biden and being stupid ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMbeWmSeZr0&t
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Old 08-24-2020, 03:42 PM   #33
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Because he's going to raise my taxes and also take away jobs from my friends who work in the oil and gas industry. We really don't have a good choice this year.
Tiny, do you make over $400,000 a year? God bless if you do. Biden last night said that is the only taxpayer group who will see an increase in taxes. He is also proposing an increase in corporate taxes which I support but not back to where they were prior to Trump's tax reform.

Why Biden? I've been around a long time and have never seen a country as divided as it is now. It's not like people simply disagree with one-another. There is hatred towards those who disagree.

I think Biden is the best choice between the two to bring back some level of of respect and willingness to work together. Trump is divisive in my opinion and thrives on it. Divide and conquer. Biden certainly has his faults but he has shown the ability to try to work across the aisle and come up with compromise. With Trump, it's either his way or you're out of a job or you incur his wrath for life.
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Old 08-24-2020, 03:48 PM   #34
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Tiny, do you make over $400,000 a year? God bless if you do. Biden last night said that is the only taxpayer group who will see an increase in taxes. He is also proposing an increase in corporate taxes which I support but not back to where they were prior to Trump's tax reform.

Why Biden? I've been around a long time and have never seen a country as divided as it is now. It's not like people simply disagree with one-another. There is hatred towards those who disagree.

I think Biden is the best choice between the two to bring back some level of of respect and willingness to work together. Trump is divisive in my opinion and thrives on it. Divide and conquer. Biden certainly has his faults but he has shown the ability to try to work across the aisle and come up with compromise. With Trump, it's either his way or you're out of a job or you incur his wrath for life.

I kinda recall Obama / Biden saying that you can keep your doctor and your plan. Your insurance premium will go down. I certainly trust what he says now.
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Old 08-24-2020, 03:54 PM   #35
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Tiny, do you make over $400,000 a year? God bless if you do. Biden last night said that is the only taxpayer group who will see an increase in taxes. He is also proposing an increase in corporate taxes which I support but not back to where they were prior to Trump's tax reform.

Why Biden? I've been around a long time and have never seen a country as divided as it is now. It's not like people simply disagree with one-another. There is hatred towards those who disagree.

I think Biden is the best choice between the two to bring back some level of of respect and willingness to work together. Trump is divisive in my opinion and thrives on it. Divide and conquer. Biden certainly has his faults but he has shown the ability to try to work across the aisle and come up with compromise. With Trump, it's either his way or you're out of a job or you incur his wrath for life.

SR - If you actually believe that Biden won't hugely raise taxes on everyone to even put a down payment on his Soylent Green New Deal and list of marxist wet dream plans the AOC radicals have - that can never be paid for - even with the entire US GNP - You deserve to vote Biden, and deseve the Harris marxist result.



When OBLM come for your home - to torch , or occupy and confiscate - and the cold reality hits you as you are asaulted and beaten by biden;s mobs because there are no more police forces, No One will stand for You.
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Old 08-24-2020, 03:58 PM   #36
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If the tests were faulty,which they were,that is on his watch.Move quickly to correct it. He did not.They were his tests.For a new virus.

Fauci is not President.Also if Trump was left with inadequate nuclear warheads from a previous administration goof up then; Trump is responsible for replenishing them.It is ridiculous to blame Obama almost 4 years into a new administration for PPE supplies.If Trump thought it important he would have seen to it.

Plenty is sketchy about Hydroxychloroquin.It's been disavowed by all reputable sources from controlled studies including FDA.

There is a way a trusted,respected President can highly recommend things without necessarily ordering them like a dictator.He could have won over the people and the governors would have followed.

He should not have said We all gonna die ! But he could have been more truthful and forthcoming than he was.

Actually someone posted above me regarding Lefties voting for Hitler if it meant getting rid of Trump.

I was just pointing out I don't think the left would do that but they will vote for Biden.
Anyone wanting an authoritarian executive would probably vote Trump cause he leans more that direction.

Money bills and the funding of them are supposed to arise from the House of Representatives.Funds allocated by them for certain projects are not generally supposed to be diverted for policies and campaign promises that a president cannot get passed and funded through congress legitimately.

Especially when Trump had 2 years of having control of both branches,Senate and House.
That speaks to how unpopular the Border Wall was and is,a Republican congress would not pass it in the first 2 years.
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Old 08-24-2020, 04:01 PM   #37
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I was just pointing out I don't think the left would do that but they will vote for Biden.
Anyone wanting an authoritarian executive would probably vote Trump cause he leans more that direction.


K Harris -is of the same ilk as Lenin, Stalin, mao, Kim dynasty, and pol Pot - and once she packs the SC with radicals - she will with impunity dump the Constitution and rule by fiat.

Stalin and mao will be proud of what she will do to America.



And - there will be No One to speak for you - SF.
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Old 08-24-2020, 04:03 PM   #38
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I kinda recall Obama/Biden taking over the greatest recession since the depression. I'm still waiting on the best ever health care plan and the Mexico paid for wall trump ran on.

Trump n the gop did get a big big tax cut passed for the wealthy.and pretty much said fuck middle class idiots
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Old 08-24-2020, 04:06 PM   #39
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I kinda recall Obama/Biden taking over the greatest recession since the depression. I'm still waiting on the best ever health care plan and the Mexico paid for wall trump ran on.

Trump n the gop did get a big big tax cut passed for the wealthy.and pretty much said fuck middle class idiots
You’re still are waiting for great healthcare? Since Obama.? For people like you, Obama didn’t go far enough. You want it for free. Loser. BTW, I consider myself upper middle class. I run my own business. Trumps tax cuts helped me immensely. Not that I would hire an ingrate like you.
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I'm good w health care bambo. How bout that wall Mexico paid for

Btw you know the putin/trump team have nothing to hide. That's why they try to hide everything
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Tiny, do you make over $400,000 a year? God bless if you do. Biden last night said that is the only taxpayer group who will see an increase in taxes. He is also proposing an increase in corporate taxes which I support but not back to where they were prior to Trump's tax reform.

Why Biden? I've been around a long time and have never seen a country as divided as it is now. It's not like people simply disagree with one-another. There is hatred towards those who disagree.

I think Biden is the best choice between the two to bring back some level of of respect and willingness to work together. Trump is divisive in my opinion and thrives on it. Divide and conquer. Biden certainly has his faults but he has shown the ability to try to work across the aisle and come up with compromise. With Trump, it's either his way or you're out of a job or you incur his wrath for life.
i hope you don't believe that. Biden can say that but when all the radical crap starts to go in effect like free health care for ILLEGALS .. yeah he raised his hand to that during the democratic debates, haven't seen him walk that back yet. all the radical left things they want are going to increase taxes on everyone. for Biden to think he can just tax high earners to cover it is stupidity.

10 years ago Biden wouldn't have been so bad as a president. he wasn't losing his marbles .. presumably, but he never was the sharpest knife in the kitchen. and he was always mostly moderate even borderline conservative on some issues. i think he still is but he has to pander to Bernie too much now.
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Old 08-24-2020, 04:26 PM   #42
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I don't think there is but one Supreme Court opening maybe coming up and that would be Ginsburg and she is already liberal so to speak.A new liberal appointment in her stead would not upset the Court balance.

Plus Kamala is not running for president nor will be elected to be president.

You guys seem to be Projecting all this doom and gloom.
All this loose talk of Civil War and Marxist Hordes.
It's not happening.Not going to happen.
Our Democracy will survive us.

I know it is frustrating ; to both sides. We are all dissatisfied with government especially congress. Some scholars have said for 60-70 years that our legislative branch needs looking at ; perhaps to be revised.

The main knock on it is that it is antiquated and not responsive enough in these modern times to deal with fast moving changes.

I say as do many. Leave it the way it is. The fact that the Senate serves as a Dam to hold back on things is good. An example was the Border Wall bill.They could not pass it.Things that are too closely contested should not go through easily.

The thing to avoid is to get mad and let our processes get eroded to suit our immediate views on things.And allow for too much Executive Orders.

Coke Stevenson was asked once when he was Governor or Speaker of the House in Texas ; "Why do you let the legislature carry on fussing and fighting.Why don't you stop them and bring them back on point ?"

He replied "As long as they are squabbling , they are not voting. And as long as they aren't voting they aren't spending the people's money or messing something up by passing a bill".
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Old 08-24-2020, 04:39 PM   #44
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I don't think there is but one Supreme Court opening maybe coming up and that would be Ginsburg and she is already liberal so to speak.A new liberal appointment in her stead would not upset the Court balance.

Plus Kamala is not running for president nor will be elected to be president.

You guys seem to be Projecting all this doom and gloom.
All this loose talk of Civil War and Marxist Hordes.
It's not happening.Not going to happen.
Our Democracy will survive us.

I know it is frustrating ; to both sides. We are all dissatisfied with government especially congress. Some scholars have said for 60-70 years that our legislative branch needs looking at ; perhaps to be revised.

The main knock on it is that it is antiquated and not responsive enough in these modern times to deal with fast moving changes.

I say as do many. Leave it the way it is. The fact that the Senate serves as a Dam to hold back on things is good. An example was the Border Wall bill.They could not pass it.Things that are too closely contested should not go through easily.

The thing to avoid is to get mad and let our processes get eroded to suit our immediate views on things.And allow for too much Executive Orders.

Coke Stevenson was asked once when he was Governor or Speaker of the House in Texas ; "Why do you let the legislature carry on fussing and fighting.Why don't you stop them and bring them back on point ?"

He replied "As long as they are squabbling , they are not voting. And as long as they aren't voting they aren't spending the people's money or messing something up by passing a bill".
Well spoken, SF. Marxist hordes, my ass. Trump tried to scare everybody with the so called "caravan" trekking up from Central America. That shit didn't fly. Marxist hordes and civil war don't fly either. It's all a bunch of Chicken Little "The sky is falling!" bullshit. We'll be fine as soon as Trump is gone. He was a bad experiment, and he failed miserably.
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Tiny, do you make over $400,000 a year? God bless if you do. Biden last night said that is the only taxpayer group who will see an increase in taxes. He is also proposing an increase in corporate taxes which I support but not back to where they were prior to Trump's tax reform.

Why Biden? I've been around a long time and have never seen a country as divided as it is now. It's not like people simply disagree with one-another. There is hatred towards those who disagree.

I think Biden is the best choice between the two to bring back some level of of respect and willingness to work together. Trump is divisive in my opinion and thrives on it. Divide and conquer. Biden certainly has his faults but he has shown the ability to try to work across the aisle and come up with compromise. With Trump, it's either his way or you're out of a job or you incur his wrath for life.
I don't see how. Biden isn't inspirational enough to bring people together he's a dingbat that will go along with any plan that the DNC wants him to implement. You can't bring people together with a mentality like his. Do you think if Gen. George Patton would have been like Biden he would have obtain the respect from the Troops and Military Brass that he received? I seriously doubt it.Biden just wants to wear the title of "President Of The United States" that's all.
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