😒 let's not

[bilbobaggin]

Thanks Kat for bringing some civility to this discussion. No client should ever expect off the clock time, and no provider should ever give it. my 2cents.

[Andrea Davis]

Originally Posted by Ayohannah

I didnt ask for pity at all. Just stating facts. No one has access my account but me. Its all speculation. Me an Hailey are not on good terms anymore so shes starting drama. Sn. I met the member because hailey introduced us. So him slandering me is not far from believable. People are 👄 talking but what about the other members that saw me and had no issues? Lol Any way it doesn't bother me at all. Just clearing the air really. If the guy really thought I hap a "pimp" or management then why would he see me a second time.???? After he wrote a no review and said I had management he came to see me again. Doesnt make sense to me. Has any of the member that said that I have a pimp actually set an appt with me?. If they have did I fail to provide. Have they been robbed or set up by a leo. NO! So it's really bogus. The difference between me and most of these bitches is they're on their way out. (Old, drugged out) and I'm on my way up. Im 18 so I'll be around alot longer than the rumors.

My initial plan was to offer you some words of wisdom. I always try to be helpful and courteous to new ladies. Who the hell do you think you are “baby hooker” So we are old and drugged out. The only thing I am addicted to is wines made before 1980, The presidential suite at the Ritz, and my Tory Burch bag collection. You will need us “bitches” before we will ever need you. When I was your age I had already graduated college with four degrees and was taking corporate America by storm. If you don’t carry yourself like you have “management” then people would never accuse you of having it. Something that you have done has brought people to believe this.

Being a provider just isn’t about being young, and pretty. Pretty girls are a dime a dozen. Start acting like a lady and have some decorum before you come play with the big boys.

Happy Holidays,
Andrea Davis

[Ayohannah]

Originally Posted by Andrea Davis

My initial plan was to offer you some words of wisdom. I always try to be helpful and courteous to new ladies. Who the hell do you think you are “baby hooker” So we are old and drugged out. The only thing I am addicted to is wines made before 1980, The presidential suite at the Ritz, and my Tory Burch bag collection. You will need us “bitches” before we will ever need you. When I was your age I had already graduated college with four degrees and was taking corporate America by storm. If you don’t carry yourself like you have “management” then people would never accuse you of having it. Something that you have done has brought people to believe this.

Being a provider just isn’t about being young, and pretty. Pretty girls are a dime a dozen. Start acting like a lady and have some decorum before you come play with the big boys.

Happy Holidays,
Andrea Davis

First of all the post is about what was done to cause speculation I told him I wanted to be paid for the dinner date.
Secondly I was talking about my frienemy when I spoke about the drugs. So either ms four degrees struggles with literature reading and comprehension, or you felt some type of way and wanted to come for me . keep calm. Youre not old. You're only 27. �� #yikes

[royamcr]

Not siding with either party in this. But the girl can't sell her ass 24hrs a day. There might be a little time for some off the clock time every once and a while. Sales people entertain their clients all the time... As long as it isn't expected and forced it shouldn't be a problem. Free food too, I like Moons over my Hammy.

[Andrea Davis]

I actually don’t struggle with reading comprehension, or spelling unlike some. You missed the whole point to my post. Don’t insult other ladies. That is by far the most tackiest thing you could ever do.

As far as your derogatory statement of “black don’t crack” goes, I am from the DR. My mother is Dominican, my father is Haitian . I am Afro-Latina not BLACK!

Words of wisdom: Everytime you post is like writing an AD. When you make a post, people will judge you for it. If you really feel the need to vent, get a blog don’t waste everyone’s time with bs because you weren’t woman enough to be truthful with your client. I pray that one day you come to the realization that sometimes having long term regulars and establishing relationships with guys matter.

[normalguy21]

Originally Posted by satan666

https://www.eccie.net/showthread.php...272&highlight=

and as far as the man hobbyist who was not only a repeat customer! but also willing to buy you lunch after he had a session with you. now i understand time is money in this endeavor we all play in!

but maybe just maybe had you gone out to lunch with this repeat customer hobbyist! probably would have solidified the return and repeat business and put you up there on his list as atf material! this not only would have put more $ in your pocket from him but he also would refer you to other hobbyists putting even more $ in your pocket!

and please dear re read your response to my post and then re read it again and tell me if that response does not come off as catty and shitty attitude when all i was doing is offer you advice to help you!

i see myself as one of the upper tier members on this forum granted i have not been here as long as many of the other top tier members but i also have not been here a mere 14 days either!

all im saying dear is take some advice and some criticism and learn from it and grow! or don't and fail idc either way i am not the one depending on money from men like myself to survive and pay my bills!

but i have bee round here log enough to see warning signs that you are most likely going to fail altogether at this or end up something else in this lifestyle! if you don't change your attitude!

like i said idc either way its not my money it is affecting but as a man who spends my money in this hobby i can tell you i would spend my money elsewhere! even though you're the type of gal in my wheelhouse! there are to many red flags when it comes to you that tell me a session with you could go any number of ways good or bad. stop for a second and let that sink in and remember where your money comes from hobbyists just like myself!

Many a good points made in and on this post but i find the above post most directly hit home with me.

To the op

Guy's in there 40's and 50's that hobby mostly do it to relax and to remain drama free and not to envelop there self's into drama forthrightly .

So i was coming to K.C next week and doing some pre booking and guess what i dont want to book ?

A headache .

But i wish you all the best if you ever get that attitude down a peg

[Kat VonDee]

Originally Posted by Andrea Davis

Words of wisdom: Everytime you post is like writing an AD. When you make a post, people will judge you for it. If you really feel the need to vent, get a blog don’t waste everyone’s time with bs because you weren’t woman enough to be truthful with your client. I pray that one day you come to the realization that sometimes having long term regulars and establishing relationships with guys matter.

+1... You made an excellent point, whatever you post on this site is a huge reflection of your business, & you never want your business to be associated as "classless". I see some of the most obnoxious & ignorant stuff on this site, & Lord knows I am not the one to sugar coat a thing in my life, but for the sake to save my biz & reputation, I do my best to bite my tongue. I used to think the older I got in this hobby, I would become "washed up" or "burned out"... in all reality, I am a lot better today than I was almost 6 years ago.
& I commend you Andrea for being head strong, successful & intelligent. Many women come into this line of work trying to be the prettiest or most well known, which are good perks, but to come into this lifestyle & have the ambition to make a FUTURE for yourself says A LOT. Much respect. Your attitude & generally who you are as a woman will have guys lining up to see you way before anything else.

[Nikkilove91]

Yeah trash talking another providers will not get you far...especially on the board. If you were talking about a specific female you need to speak directly to her. Not talk shit on the internet. Personally your age is showing by the way your acting

[zeejoe]

Boy, this act looks familiar.

18 year old hookers generally don't write like that, but we have a long history here of a pimp that does.

[HeavyMetal913]

Maybe I just got lucky or maybe I just pick really good friends to see in this world.
But I personally have had many lunches dinners with providers that I see off-the-clock lunches dinners with providers that I've seen and those providers I go back to.
And a sales position which you are I think it would be important to build a long-lasting client customer relationships unless you just want to see how many dicks you can get inside you per day.
But if you're looking to build a long-lasting relationship with a regular I don't think asking somebody to go to lunch with them is out of line and I don't believe that any of the providers that have gone to lunch or dinner with me and the only thing I paid was the tab felt it was out of line either or they wouldn't have gone.

[B-Dragon]

Well this escalated quicky as ususual. Solid points brought up by Kat and Andrea. As both ladies pointed out, what you post here does reflect on you. We unfortunately live in a pure digital age where people judge by what's written or how it's written from just a post. Only a couple weeks and already indications of drama. Just some food for thought.

[love2tasteladies]

Originally Posted by Andrea Davis

I actually don’t struggle with reading comprehension, or spelling unlike some. You missed the whole point to my post. Don’t insult other ladies. That is by far the most tackiest thing you could ever do.

As far as your derogatory statement of “black don’t crack” goes, I am from the DR. My mother is Dominican, my father is Haitian . I am Afro-Latina not BLACK!

Words of wisdom: Everytime you post is like writing an AD. When you make a post, people will judge you for it. If you really feel the need to vent, get a blog don’t waste everyone’s time with bs because you weren’t woman enough to be truthful with your client. I pray that one day you come to the realization that sometimes having long term regulars and establishing relationships with guys matter.

I'm mostly a lurker...on this site - not the real world Lol.

But to reinforce the point about how posts here reflect on the person - indeed they do. What we're participating in is inherently risky and requires a certain level of trust...so anything that adds to or takes away from that tends to get noticed. How one posts here helps shape perceptions of risk and trust. And to expand on this...I'm pretty sure it goes the other direction as well - which is why I just shake my head when I see some of the posts from men here.

Unfortunately, I don't think I'm alone in that I have decided not to pursue seeing a provider(s) based on what they have posted here. Of course, it's also important to pay attention to what is said about them from others...trying to get as complete a picture as one can before pulling the trigger is important - it goes back to risk and trust. In the end it's great if we can all manage to have mutually beneficial experiences.

I also just wanted to come out and say - damn Andrea...you are one fine woman and just plain sexy as hell.

[royamcr]

Originally Posted by HeavyMetal913

Maybe I just got lucky or maybe I just pick really good friends to see in this world.
But I personally have had many lunches dinners with providers that I see off-the-clock lunches dinners with providers that I've seen and those providers I go back to.
And a sales position which you are I think it would be important to build a long-lasting client customer relationships unless you just want to see how many dicks you can get inside you per day.
But if you're looking to build a long-lasting relationship with a regular I don't think asking somebody to go to lunch with them is out of line and I don't believe that any of the providers that have gone to lunch or dinner with me and the only thing I paid was the tab felt it was out of line either or they wouldn't have gone.

I've been out with a few over the years and just paid the tab... A girl that is "truly free" and has the earning potential upwards of 10k per month just working 10-15 days each month should be free to entertain any way she wants. This makes you wonder who is "truly free" from any entanglements.

[Guest090920]

Originally Posted by Ayohannah

...Not one member that has met with me can say anything negative about me.

No pimp. No manager no none of that. Has anyone one this site had a run in with a guy when meeting me.? No.

Have I set anyone up to get robbed no.

Do I provide. Yes. So what are we really talking about. Just some little bitter bitch and company.

These are the typical lame arguments used by pimped girls and their pimps when trying to save their business and convince the community the girl is independent.

How do you know what has been written about you? Are you certain no one has been critical?

Any pimp who knows how this game is played, is not going to be seen around the incall where a girl in his stable is fucking guys for money! That would be stupid on his part! However, pimps have never been known for their IQ! LOL

Not all pimped girls assist their pimp in robbing johns, so that statement proves nothing! Independent girls rob johns too!

So, we are talking about more than simply some complaining about your statements.

Have a nice day!

[Nikkilove91]

I normally agree to a dinner without extra donation. Here is why..for one, they probably just did a session with me or they are intently thinking about it & want to test the water. Two, most likely they will pay for dinner if they ask you to join them, so you get free food & a chance to build a real connection with someone. I can't believe the op didn't read her post to herself before posting this...you realize every hobbyist can see this & you just showed your a**hole side to everyone..
Good luck.