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Old 03-16-2011, 10:15 AM   #31
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well you cant compare reagan to obama..but the answer is reagan was a problem solver not a whiner in chief.
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:42 PM   #32
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Darlin', you keep putting words in my mouth and reading only what you want to read.

I wasn't comparing, I was giving an example. No matter what I say, you'll disagree because you don't people speaking ill of the republican presidents. Got it.
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:46 PM   #33
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wrong..i didnt like bush at all. not conservative enough. and their are plenty of republicans i wish would leave the party..McCain and powell being two of them.
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Old 03-16-2011, 03:46 PM   #34
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I'd like to see Bachmann's tits. Bet she has a six pack too. Always make me hot. Little muff wouldn't hurt either. Butt if she's got arm pit hair that's definitely a downer. For that matter I'd like to see Palins tits too. I have a mental image of her looking up at me with those bangs and glasses. LOL. So why is it the Repubs have such nasty looking gals?

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Old 03-16-2011, 07:59 PM   #35
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Vote for Cheaper for repub prez I'll get the job done
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Old 03-16-2011, 09:19 PM   #36
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That would seem to give some powerful conservatives a good reason to CAUSE those numbers to be that high. Don't you think?

Where are the jobs, mister Boehner?
Longer, seriously, you crack me up!

When Bush and Cheney had a Democrat congress, it was the evil Bush and Cheney that caused oil prices to rise. We have a Democrat president, a Democrat senate, and it is still the evil conservatives keeping oil prices high.

Obama and Reid apparently have no power over anything. Maybe if the President missed a few golf outings, and the Majority Leader missed some cowboy poetry sessions, they could accomplish something.

You expect Boehner to create jobs? What about all the jobs created when the Democrats controlled the Presidency and the Congress? Oh, yeah, unemployment increased. Boehner has been Speaker for two and a half months, and has a hostile Senate and President. Sure, he'll be a crappy Speaker, but Nancy Pelosi makes him look like Churchill.


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Old 03-16-2011, 09:28 PM   #37
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Ron Paul is a nutjob. But that's a good thing. I posted on this in another thread. I'll take Ron Paul over anybody that has been mentioned so far.

MsElena, god knows I love you, and have to see you sometime. Let's see, crappy Republican presidents: Bush I, Bush II, Nixon, Ford, Hoover. Reagan talked a good game, but was disappointing. Still, the Soviets thought he was crazy, and along with PM Thatcher and John Paul II, helped bring down the Iron Curtain. Most underestimated Republican president: Eisenhower. Most overrated Republican president: Lincoln.
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Old 03-16-2011, 10:01 PM   #38
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COG,

Oh....you flatter me COG and you should know by now I'd love to see you too. Meet me in KC or better yet, come to Omaha for a weekend.

Back to topic though......

Darlin', I was just making a point that all president's inherit problems. I've liked some Rep presidents and I've liked some Dem presidents. But, none of them are perfect and I take into account that there were problems before they come into office and I'm sure they'll also create more problems while in office.

I don't pretend to know all about politics, hell I even admitted that I need a tutor.
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Old 03-16-2011, 11:43 PM   #39
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Want to boost the economy? Legalize prostitution.

There's a bi-partisan issue I'm sure all of you will support.
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Old 03-18-2011, 12:42 AM   #40
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hi did..and gas was a buck 86 a gallon and what was unemployment when obama took office?? do you ever get tired of having you ass handed to ya? must not, seems to be a pattern.
Are you living in a world where everything was perfectly fine before Obama took office and then got bad? What color is the sky in your world?

How does that match up with the idea that, "The only reason Obama beat McCain is because the economy went to shit right before the election"?

How can McCain suspend his campaign to go to Washington for a crisis...and yet you claim no crisis existed and everything was great until Obama took office? What was the big expensive spending thingy that Bush signed? Didn't Bush do that when he was President? Or do you think he did it for no reason?

Again, what color is the sky in your world?
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Old 03-18-2011, 12:48 AM   #41
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Please don't put words into my mouth.
Well said! There are a lot of word-putter-in-mouthers in this forum. There are a lot of read-certain-parts-and-make-up-their-own-meanings guys, too.

I myself try to quote when possible. Quoting is more classy.
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Old 03-18-2011, 06:50 AM   #42
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Monger you have selective memory. Yes, Bush did sign the bailout but under what circumstances? Come on, I'm sure you know... Okay, this is for MsElena. The democratic Congress put together a bailout package for Bush and Bush called in both McCain and Obama. He said that one of them would be president when this went into effect, did they want him to sign it? Both McCain and Obama wanted Bush to sign the bill. So Obama's hands are not clean for those of us who think the bailout, and Tarp, was a mistake. Obama then went on to spend our tax money, and our childrens tax money, on bailing out unions, cities, and states who voted for him. 3/4 of the money spent so far (there is still about 300 billion not spent yet) was spent in states that Obama carried. McCain would have been just as bad since he supported it.

Hey Longer, ever hear of Hermann Cain? He has some good ideas.
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Old 03-18-2011, 11:43 AM   #43
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The original TARP was put together by Treasury Secretary Paulson. A one page spending request for $700 billion with no strings attached and no oversight by anybody. Paulson who was the former head of Goldman Sachs decided to give them a huge bailout, but let their biggest competitor (Lehman Bros) go down the tubes. Talk about helping out your buddies.
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Old 03-18-2011, 06:18 PM   #44
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Monger you have selective memory. ....The democratic Congress put together a bailout package...
Yet you somehow managed to get contradicted by the facts in the next post. Hrmmm.

Since you're a know-it-all, why don't you say how much TARP costs? I'm not talking about how many billions were authorized ($700 Billion) or how much was spent ($296 Billion). I'm talking about how much TARP costs after all of the money is paid back. Less than $25 Billion. Under your economic principles, the economy would have just died. All of the American automakers would have died. Yes, even Ford.

Compared to all annual defense spending and defense related spending (about $1 Trillion), $25 billion to save the entire economy sounds reasonable. I don't like the actions that led up to TARP, or the crooks on Wall Street, but TARP itself was a fairly effective solution to a horrible problem. The alternative would have been really nasty.
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Old 03-18-2011, 09:54 PM   #45
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TARP saved the economy? Then everything is fine now. Whew! I was worried for a moment.
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