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Old 02-17-2011, 08:26 AM   #31
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I think you have some very deep seeded hatred for LE that has nothing to do with them enforcing prostitution laws.

Any other "groups" you wish to hate upon?
being a long time local citizen of Houston I can tell you a reason they crack down on the petty crimes and such.

its called "justification" economy is not so great so they have to prove we need all the cops, swat officers etc...

Swat officers are not always on patrol and such.. so they are on standby.


With the economy being in a slump, people find ways to enhance their income, some not so legal.....

In a booming economy you don't see these types of raids unless its an election year.
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Old 02-17-2011, 12:36 PM   #32
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AngelOK, substitute blacks, mexicans, asians, etc for cops. It is a comment fueled by discrimination and hatred.
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Old 02-17-2011, 05:43 PM   #33
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AngelOK, substitute blacks, mexicans, asians, etc for cops. It is a comment fueled by discrimination and hatred.
Wrong. Blacks, Mexicans, Asians, etc do not CHOOSE to be members of their groups, whereas cops do. And those who don't participate in the criminal behavior, bullying and abuse are still part of the conspiracy of silence that allows such behavior to continue.

You want a valid analogy? Substitute bullies, thieves, rapists etc for cops and then tell me it's "fueled by discrimination and hatred". Just because YOU have been lucky enough never to be victimized doesn't mean you have the right to get all holier-than-thou with those who have, which is a large percentage of the population.
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Old 02-17-2011, 05:49 PM   #34
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There not focused on it at all actually. There are no dedicated units for prostitution. A minimal amount of work goes towards victimless crimes, but some does for budgetary reasons.

Some of you on this thread shouldn't be posting as its a somewhat serious topic and to be honest you don't really know what your talking about.
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Old 02-17-2011, 06:33 PM   #35
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There not focused on it at all actually. There are no dedicated units for prostitution. A minimal amount of work goes towards victimless crimes, but some does for budgetary reasons.

Some of you on this thread shouldn't be posting as its a somewhat serious topic and to be honest you don't really know what your talking about.
What have you been smoking, LE?

Ever hear of "vice?" Yes, it's dedicated to prostitution and other vices.

And Angel is both right and wrong. There are a lot of cops that abuse their power. It's not unheard of for a cop to arrest an escort, then let her "go" in exchange for a little pussy. Now, that is rape. And it happens a lot.

But not all cops do it.

However, outside the escort/prostitution realm, ever hear of "excess force?" That's what a cop is accused of when he uses more force than is necessary for the situation. Bunch of bullies do this.

But not all cops. Ones that play by the rules may be in the minority, which is why Angel may be more right than wrong.
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Old 02-17-2011, 07:52 PM   #36
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What have you been smoking, LE?

Ever hear of "vice?" Yes, it's dedicated to prostitution and other vices.

And Angel is both right and wrong. There are a lot of cops that abuse their power. It's not unheard of for a cop to arrest an escort, then let her "go" in exchange for a little pussy. Now, that is rape. And it happens a lot.

But not all cops do it.

However, outside the escort/prostitution realm, ever hear of "excess force?" That's what a cop is accused of when he uses more force than is necessary for the situation. Bunch of bullies do this.

But not all cops. Ones that play by the rules may be in the minority, which is why Angel may be more right than wrong.

Heres why I know what I am talking about

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VICEs primary concern is NOT prostitution in the slightest. Also alot of escorts OFFER services to get off of the hook, remember that. Excess force frankly is a bullshit but sometimes valid argument. Try walking in the shoes of a cop very day you get very calloused. Now a cop roughing up anyone when there is no threat involved is obviously valid. But if someones trying to hurt me or someone else they get put down hard and fast, period.

VICE is a fluff unit, their primary concern in regards to prostitution is to put some numbers in the books so they continue to get their usual budget from city council and use that money on more serious concerns.
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Old 02-17-2011, 08:05 PM   #37
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Like I said, pure hatred. Sorry if you have been "victimized". Don't know your situation and it doesn't matter, whatever happened to you does not mean that cops are as a majority abusive as you claim. You have zero facts to support your argument, just hatred.

It's hard to argue with people who choose to violate the laws that are on the books (not saying I agree with the laws themselves) that those who are tasked with enforcing those laws are in general good people. Very likely you have had an experience with someone who is attempting to enforce the law and you disagree. They must be wrong and corrupt and you must be right.

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Old 02-17-2011, 08:21 PM   #38
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Well their excuse is human trafficking and underage girls but hell bust them and leave the willing adults alone!
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Well their excuse is human trafficking and underage girls but hell bust them and leave the willing adults alone!

Theres no excuse, its against the law and they need to make budget. Thats all there is to it. Now what is told to a naive public is very different.
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Old 02-17-2011, 09:13 PM   #40
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I never tell other people to refrain - on the contrary - excess is my bane and my boom! Comment on - just because your words are fancy and many doesn't make them any smarter.

And everyone has their opinion. You're certainly entitled to yours regardless of how ill advised it might be.

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LOL anyone who thinks the cops are wonderful people deserves to get mistakenly arrested on a Friday afternoon and introduced to a nice little holiday weekend trip to Harris County on a charge that gets dismissed tuesday when the judge is too busy to see you on Monday. Report back after your release on Wednesday afternoon about the wonderful officers, staff and service at the beautiful San Jac St. Hilton. There's just nothing like that kind of experience to make you have a better appreciation of what innocent until proven guilty really does mean.

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What?
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tell me about it....
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Like I said, pure hatred. Sorry if you have been "victimized". Don't know your situation and it doesn't matter, whatever happened to you does not mean that cops are as a majority abusive as you claim. You have zero facts to support your argument, just hatred.
Oh, please. Do you live under a rock? There are cops beating people up and raping women in the news EVERY DAY, so don't say I have "zero facts". You're just living in a white middle-class TV fantasy.

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It's hard to argue with people who choose to violate the laws that are on the books (not saying I agree with the laws themselves) that those who are tasked with enforcing those laws are in general good people.
At Nuremberg 66 years ago, Western society collectively declared that "I was only following orders" is NOT a valid defense. One called upon to enforce an evil law must quit his post or else be held equally as liable as the men who made the law. And don't say "you can't compare them to Nazis" because of COURSE you can, Godwin's Law notwithstanding. The Nazis were a legitimate government duly elected by a democratic process, just like ours, their laws were produced by a standard legislative process, and the people who enforced those laws hired and paid just as our government hires and pays its operatives. And their excuse for brutality, rape and false imprisonment was also "I don't make the laws, I just enforce them."
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Heres why I know what I am talking about

Bachelors in CJ
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8 years working private military providing alot of other tactical services for both LE and military operations


VICEs primary concern is NOT prostitution in the slightest. Also alot of escorts OFFER services to get off of the hook, remember that. Excess force frankly is a bullshit but sometimes valid argument. Try walking in the shoes of a cop very day you get very calloused. Now a cop roughing up anyone when there is no threat involved is obviously valid. But if someones trying to hurt me or someone else they get put down hard and fast, period.

VICE is a fluff unit, their primary concern in regards to prostitution is to put some numbers in the books so they continue to get their usual budget from city council and use that money on more serious concerns.
Your credentials don't impress me. Let's just say I have more and more experience than you do.

Yeah, and the ladies may OFFER the services, but any good cop would turn them down. Looks like there's a lot of bad ones. And not all ladies offer the services to begin with, and there's a bunch of cops out there coercing the services.

And you must not be able to pass the psychologicals since you can't get in the real deal. You contract to the real services, and do private security. The way you phrased it, you could be doing everything from being unarmed, sitting at a desk with a paperback in your hand to working for Blackwater. But it is apparent from your post you know little of street cops. And even if you do, you've identified so much with them that there is no convincing you of the real side of LE.
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