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Old 04-14-2010, 11:35 AM   #31
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Looiecypher, you are correct that some ladies do not follow the rules or tcb as well as they could/should. There are issues on both sides and we recognize this. However, this respectful discourse is a way to get those that do on the same page. Unfortunately, some (ladies and gents) will never "get it". Patronize those that do.

It will work for most but not for all. I'm happy to see so much respectful discussion here.
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Old 04-14-2010, 01:34 PM   #32
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very very nice letter. I personally stand behind that letter, it is our " Code Of Conduct" in this hobbyland. As hobbyists, it is our responsiblity to research and research some more. If a lady has a conflicting price on a different site; communicate that you saw her ad price on eccie, but a different ad price on p411, ask her which price is relevant. Communication is so important. Thank you again for the time and effort for the letter....
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Old 04-14-2010, 01:40 PM   #33
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Default Looiecypher,

I would ask that if you do decide to do a similar post from a hobbyist point of view then please do it in a tactful manner, I have read a # of your posts and know that, that is your style-but if I did not mention it then I would be remiss if It were posted otherwise.

And make sure it is a seperate thread. Not in this one.

Thx and take care
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Old 04-14-2010, 01:55 PM   #34
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I would ask that if you do decide to do a similar post from a hobbyist point of view then please do it in a tactful manner, I have read a # of your posts and know that, that is your style-but if I did not mention it then I would be remiss if It were posted otherwise.

And make sure it is a seperate thread. Not in this one.

Thx and take care
I started something like that call "Letter to Providers" although it was nowhere near as comprehensive. It has recieved a number of "civil" responses. That may be a starting place.
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Old 04-14-2010, 01:59 PM   #35
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Works for me. I would just ask that folks keep it respectful.

Thanks
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Old 04-14-2010, 02:32 PM   #36
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Nice post, I appreciate the tone (mostly) and the information. I think new hobbiest will get more out of it than old-timers, but even veterans need to be reminded about the basics every now and then.

Like most things, I think the majority of clients and providers try to follow both sets of guidelines or codes of conduct. There are people new to the business that are unaware and make mistakes, hopefuly they learn fast or get some guidance early on. There is however a small minority that try to take advantage of the ladies or steal from the guys, which causes most of the drama associated with the hobby. I have been fairly successful in avoiding this small contingent, either thru diligent research or blind luck.
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Old 04-14-2010, 03:28 PM   #37
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1) Please be clean shaven if you desire DATY and kissing (if offered).


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It seems to me the author does not want to have what I consider a full GFE session with men who have facial hair. If you have a mustache, beard or goatee, then DATY and kissing, if offered, is not available. Babee, if this is you, please clarify this for us.
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Old 04-14-2010, 03:33 PM   #38
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Nah, that is not the case. That statement is for men who have "harsh stubble", trust me in a sensitive area, that hurts.

Beard, goatee, mustache, those are all cool.
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It seems to me the author does not want to have what I consider a full GFE session with men who have facial hair. If you have a mustache, beard or goatee, then DATY and kissing, if offered, is not available. Babee, if this is you, please clarify this for us.
Cassidy nailed it. I am not THE author. There is no single author, but I am proud to be a contributor.

Me personally? No harsh stubble. This does include beards & mustaches. Trim them the day before rather than day of, if possible. If in doubt, rub your face in the bend of your elbow. Is it prickly? Even a little? That stubble can feel like sand paper and hurt. If you'd rather hear "oh oh oh" and not hear "ow ow ow" you can take care of it before or I can take take care of it during. I prefer that you take care of it. Okay?
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Old 04-16-2010, 11:34 AM   #40
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Old 04-16-2010, 12:00 PM   #41
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Well thought out letter ladies. It's a shame that the actions of 1% of the members is recognized as a problem and brought forth as a board wide issue.

I have limited time to read anymore but when I do I see that there is way more positive than negative, but I'm an optimist by nature.
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Old 04-18-2010, 05:55 AM   #42
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The part about being called a "clockwatcher" for letting a guy know that his time is up really resonates with me. Unless y'all(meaning my clients) want to move in and split the rent with me then you DO realize at some point we agreed to part company after x amount of hours...pointing out that it is five to 10 minutes after the agreed upon time frame is NOT clockwatching.
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Old 04-18-2010, 08:51 AM   #43
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Ladies. The more I read, the more I realize that the time I've spent with providers has been a wonderful time for them and I. It amazes me that some guys forget the ladies are people. They have feelings. They should be respected. I've been fortunate to enjoy activities not listed. The suggestions listed are good. Unfortunately, I don't think the guys to whom it's directed will read it. If they read it, it won't resonate.

Personally, it bothers me that any guy would treat a lady as an innate object.

I always read as much as I can about a lady. Whether we spend two hours together or a weekend, I always approach it as a date. I want the lady to have a wonderful experience while she's with me. I enjoy her calling me to see me again. In short, I want to be her ATF.

Some ladies who've posted here have attracted my attention. I hope to be fortunate enough to meet them someday.
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Old 04-18-2010, 01:54 PM   #44
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Am-a-pleaser...I'm sure their are plenty of ladies here that have noticed your thoughtful posts and look forward to meeting you as much as you look forward to meeting them!
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Old 04-18-2010, 02:03 PM   #45
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As Alt said Feedback: Well written and for the most part in a positive tone. You could condense a whole lot of that down to treat your date like a lady (and have saved me a little time).
Reviews do serve a good purpose.... some in the providing world use GFE and PSE to mean different things.... for some hobbyists CBJ is a deal breaker, some dislike the no Digits rule of some providers .... some also sure want some personality not just a Slam Bam that will be $$$ sir....
I hope that this board also has a place where providers can share information on us hobbyists .... if you want to treat a lady like a Dog ... there are SM/BD providers out there, .... If you are a good customer and they know it....you will get good services.

Turnabout is good play...
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