Here a thread closing, there a thread closing, everywhere a thread closing!

[Johnny4455]

I dont know if you think you are defending yourself, but whatever you think you are doing, I can tell you that a neutral observer sees you as someone who posted under a fake handle, and viewed ml posts, and only stopped because you were caught. Now apparently you knew about another fake handle, fake review, and were offended, but did nothing about it until you got in this recent tiff. So you think you have any credibility. ? Last week one lady is the devil, now its another. We have to sleep in the beds we make. As a hobbyist, I value honesty and discretion in a provider. Youve blown credibility. Your making things worse for yourself. Im sorry if this sounds mean, but you may need to focus on your own health right now, and there are some of us that dont believe what you post. And dont really care.

Originally Posted by SinsOfTheFlesh

*sigh*

I swore that I had made my last public comment on this matter, and if this post earns me additional infraction points, well then, so be it. Given my history with dallying with fake handles, I can't let Grace's final swipe and attempt at insinuating that I have a fake handle stand.

I had intended to refrain from mentioning Grace's fake handle because even though I never made use of it myself, I knew it existed and I said nothing about it. I learned of her handle in July when a new review appeared for us. I knew it was fake the instant I saw it because all of our doubles appointments had been with regulars, and I had never seen or heard of that handle before. So I called Grace to tell her I was going to RTM the review because it was an obvious fake. She told me it was her fake handle. First I yelled at her for sticking a fake review on my reviews, and then I kept my mouth shut. I know all too well the condemnation that comes with a fake handle, and I did not want to subject her to that. So I said nothing.

It occurred to me last night that if she was going to try and turn everything else around on me, then she could very well also try to claim that the handle actually belongs to me and not her. So, against my better judgement, and wincing at whatever consequences might come my way for knowing about the handle and saying nothing about it, I reported the handle to a moderator.

Now, shock of all shocks, that is exactly what she did.

The TOR program she mentions supposedly scrambles your IP address so that you can't be traced. She directed me to the website where I could download it. Now, I freely admit that I am a complete technology idiot. That is why my fake handle got busted in the first place. I do know though, that anyone with the right know how can determine that I never even so much as downloaded this TOR program to either my laptop or my desktop computer. If anyone with the right skills would like to come to my incall and verify that, please feel free.

I knew about Grace's handle, but I never once signed onto it. I have already more than learned my lesson about messing with fake handles and I have no desire whatsoever to go back down that particular road.

And now this really IS my final word.

[offshoredrilling]

Originally Posted by SinsOfTheFlesh

Oh shit, in all of my verbosity and intention to give full disclosure, I still forgot to actually disclose the handle itself. It is Carpal Tunnel.

CarpalTunnel

Last Activity: Today 10:00 AM

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last review Review: Plump Jessica 09-03-2013, 12:52 PM

http://binghamton.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/tan-busty-california-blonde-27/12328394
posted in a Upset NY ISO defending a fake pic ad
Edit add: if anyone wonders why I read many areas of the board. This in one. Along for the entertainment as another.

Posts all over Kansas city, one in Jersey and two in N&S Carolina

SinsOfTheFlesh are you sure, just askin
as it would have been smarter to just buy PA and never post.

more edit:
How many places are named Tampa - WikiAnswers

wiki.answers.com › ... › US States Cities and Territories › Florida‎
Answer: There are 3 places named Tampa in the US. Tampa, FL; Tampa, Kansas; and Tampa,

ok Tampa I was thinkin FL, but there is one in Kansas
carry on

[SinsOfTheFlesh]

Originally Posted by Johnny4455

I dont know if you think you are defending yourself, but whatever you think you are doing, I can tell you that a neutral observer sees you as someone who posted under a fake handle, and viewed ml posts, and only stopped because you were caught. Now apparently you knew about another fake handle, fake review, and were offended, but did nothing about it until you got in this recent tiff. So you think you have any credibility. ? Last week one lady is the devil, now its another. We have to sleep in the beds we make. As a hobbyist, I value honesty and discretion in a provider. Youve blown credibility. Your making things worse for yourself. Im sorry if this sounds mean, but you may need to focus on your own health right now, and there are some of us that dont believe what you post. And dont really care.

I freely admit that I said nothing because I did not want Grace to be subjected to the same hatred I experienced. Call me stupid for being a friend.

I also freely admit that the one and only reason why I hesitated to bust her fake handle yesterday was because I was in cover my ass mode. Sue me. In spite of that, I still gave full disclosure to a mod last night. If I myself am assigned points or a suspension, well, that is the consequence for keeping my silence. I will have no one to blame but myself if that is the case, not even Grace. I will not stand by though, and allow Grace to claim that I had a fake handle.

I haven't asked anyone to take sides. There are about a dozen or more people, hobbyist and provider alike who could all speak up and confirm every single point that I have made so far. I have not dropped one single name so that anyone would be dragged kicking and screaming into this whether they like it or not. Neither have I sent out one single PM, nor made one single phone call asking others to come here and confirm the things I've said. I restricted my statements only to claims that could be corroborated. However, I won't ask or insist that anyone step up to provide that corroboration unless they want to. That whole 'discretion' thing you know.

I don't get to control what you believe, or who you believe. I speak only the truth as I know it. Yes, last week I believed Kaylen was responsible for this. I am truly ashamed of the things I said. I would give anything to take back the things I said to her last week, but I can't. I can only say that I was wrong, and the things I said were unforgivable. I don't deserve Kaylen's forgiveness, trust, or friendship after what I said to her. The only thing I can do is swear to her that I will never hurt her again the way I did, and keep that promise day by day. These are things I've already said to her directly, and swearing that I will never again harm her is a vow that I intend to keep.

Don't think for one minute that I am not agonizingly aware of the fact that absolutely nothing I have said to this point, or will say in the future about this situation will make me look good. I am all too aware of the fact that in terms of my business, this situation is nothing short of disastrous. Has it occurred to that I just might have higher priorities?

I'm an intelligent lady. Everyone can agree on that at least. Do not think that I am so stupid that I am unable to grasp the harm all of this has done to me, and will continue to do to me. Despite that, I still stand behind every post, and I take nothing back.

[Guest090920]

Originally Posted by Graceutr

Hey Scorpio. Go WK Kaylen. You know since you like posts about WKs.
Here's the answers to your questions.

Grace doesn't have a fake handle.

Gentlemen and ladies, we have more facts for consideration.

Grace, I'm disappointed that you are choosing or not choosing to leave this community before all the facts are disclosed, some that might clear your name.

Also, I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I gave up WK activities some time ago. I stand for "truth, justice and the American way" and as such, support friends in their time of need and unjust persecution and inaccurate supposition.

If the facts prove you to be innocent, I will support you.

Best,
Scorpio

[SinsOfTheFlesh]

Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

SinsOfTheFlesh are you sure, just askin
as it would have been smarter to just buy PA and never post.

I am certain that the Carpal Tunnel review is fake. That I assure you of. I can also assure you that when I told Grace that I was going to RTM it because I knew it was a fake review, she told me that she had written it, and I left it alone.

Perhaps the account belongs to a legit hobbyist and she simply has access to it. I don't know. All I know is that the instant I heard "fake handle" I ran the other way as fast as my hooker heels would allow me to.

I tangled with that once. I didn't want to a second time. I'm guilty of not busting Grace back in July because she was a friend. If my failure to report her has consequences, then I earned them and I will have no one to blame but myself.

[Johnny4455]

You stand behind the posts under the fake handle? I never said you were not intelligent, just observed that as a matter of fact you have no credibility.

I'll bet good will come out of this for you. Maybe it will make you focus on your health, and maybe that is what you mean by higher priorities.

I really don't think the continued posting and attempts to point fault at others will address those higher priorities, but instead will be like denial, or avoidance of maybe what you should be focused on. If the continued posting about this drama is disastrous to your biz, lacks credibility, and perhaps is harmful to your health, then maybe let it go?

Honestly, i am sorry if this sounds mean. Just my observations.

[Guest090920]

Originally Posted by Johnny4455

there are some of us that dont believe what you post. And dont really care.

With all due respect, that is true of how any of us might feel about your posts, my posts, anyone's posts for that matter. Your opinion is duly noted and thanks for sharing.

[offshoredrilling]

Originally Posted by SinsOfTheFlesh

]I am certain that the Carpal Tunnel review is fake.That I assure you of. I can also assure you that when I told Grace that I was going to RTM it because I knew it was a fake review, she told me that she had written it, and I left it alone.
(She is talking about the review SinsOfTheFlesh and Graceutr. MMMM but what of the other 3 reviews by CarpalTunnel)
Perhaps the account belongs to a legit hobbyist and she simply has access to it. I don't know. All I know is that the instant I heard "fake handle" I ran the other way as fast as my hooker heels would allow me to.

I tangled with that once. I didn't want to a second time. I'm guilty of not busting Grace back in July because she was a friend. If my failure to report her has consequences, then I earned them and I will have no one to blame but myself.

ether way A mod or admin must look into that, along with the 19 total posts 4 are reviews.
thanks

[SinsOfTheFlesh]

Originally Posted by Johnny4455

You stand behind the posts under the fake handle? I never said you were not intelligent, just observed that as a matter of fact you have no credibility.

I'll bet good will come out of this for you. Maybe it will make you focus on your health, and maybe that is what you mean by higher priorities.

I really don't think the continued posting and attempts to point fault at others will address those higher priorities, but instead will be like denial, or avoidance of maybe what you should be focused on. If the continued posting about this drama is disastrous to your biz, lacks credibility, and perhaps is harmful to your health, then maybe let it go?

Honestly, i am sorry if this sounds mean. Just my observations.

No no. I mean I stand by everything I have posted with regard to Grace and the stalker situation. Ten years from now, I still will not back down that Grace, in concert with her pimp, engineered the stalking charade. My proof of that is ironclad. What has been discussed on the board is the tip of the iceberg, nowhere close to the full story.

No, you aren't being mean. Nor am I angry at you for saying it. You merely point out what many others are thinking. I am not naive in that regard.

[Johnny4455]

Originally Posted by scorpio31

With all due respect, that is true of how any of us might feel about your posts, my posts, anyone's posts for that matter. Your opinion is duly noted and thanks for sharing.

Have you or I created false handles?
Granted many dont care about your posts or mine, but we don't have a history of fake reviews, and fake handles. There is a big difference.

[JUSTSM]

We could just ask Cactus Fruit. If I am correct he received a PM from CarpalTunnel aka Sinsoftheflesh aka Stacy.
If what I hear is correct she sent him a PM explaining the whole CaptainKaos drama and defended herself in the process. If Stacy didn't ever log on to CarpalTunnel -her alias- how would she know that Cactus Fruit had asked about her and got negative feedback from Kaos. I'm positive there was not a thread in open forum where he asked about her.
I have no dog in this fight but since one provider is gone and the other is playing theblame game I thought I'd share what I know,

[SinsOfTheFlesh]

Welcome back Grace. So a brand new member that just joined today has knowledge of a PM exchanged between two other handles. Get a grip on yourself Grace.

You told me what you said to Cactus Fruit in PM's. I told you to leave it alone and not to PM people on my behalf. I don't ask real men to white knight for me, I certainly wouldn't ask you to white knight for me under the guise of a fake handle.

[offshoredrilling]

Originally Posted by JUSTSM

We could just ask Cactus Fruit. If I am correct he received a PM from CarpalTunnel aka Sinsoftheflesh aka Stacy.
If what I hear is correct she sent him a PM explaining the whole CaptainKaos drama and defended herself in the process. If Stacy didn't ever log on to CarpalTunnel -her alias- how would she know that Cactus Fruit had asked about her and got negative feedback from Kaos. I'm positive there was not a thread in open forum where he asked about her.
I have no dog in this fight but since one provider is gone and the other is playing theblame game I thought I'd share what I know,

http://www.eccie.net/memberlist.php?do=getall

which Stacy you saying ?????

Originally Posted by SinsOfTheFlesh

Welcome back Grace. So a brand new member that just joined today has knowledge of a PM exchanged between two other handles. Get a grip on yourself Grace.

You told me what you said to Cactus Fruit in PM's. I told you to leave it alone and not to PM people on my behalf. I don't ask real men to white knight for me, I certainly wouldn't ask you to white knight for me under the guise of a fake handle.

this getting better

[offshoredrilling]

JUSTSM Cactus Fruit and CarpalTunnel
errrr awesome.

mmmmmm as a outsider can someone list the no skin in this handles for me????
it maybe shorter just sayin

[JUSTSM]

Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

http://www.eccie.net/memberlist.php?do=getall

which Stacy you saying ?????



this getting better

Aww. I have a dick.
You have an answer for everything.
How about we ask Cactus Fruit or a mod to look into it?
I'm absolutely positive that your style of writing is different than Graces.
But maybe she did it to disguise herself as you so that when she became dangerous provider it would look bad on her?
Teehee. Your funny.