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SweetElizabeth · 06-02-2013, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyCap

I have been told that with some providers if seeing a eccie members he did not like. would text over and over again when she was still on the date.

I can't make any sense of what you wrote here. Could you please clarify?

jackfengshui · 06-02-2013, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SweetElizabeth

I can't make any sense of what you wrote here. Could you please clarify?

He was just quoting OSD verbatim.

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Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

I have been told that with some providers if seeing a eccie members he did not like. would text over and over again when she was still on the date.

SweetElizabeth · 06-02-2013, 06:58 AM

Thanks, Jack

elghund · 06-02-2013, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyCap

If that's true, the provider bears some responsibility. A lot in fact.

Which goes hand in hand with what the majority of very established members say....do NOT give out personal info at all.

There was a recent newbie who unfortunately gave out all kinds of personal stuff.....SS# and the like....to someone he didn't know from a fucking rock. That guy needed to read this thread before he looked at a showcase or a BP ad......

I don't mind taking a chance. BUT, my info stays private, as best as I can in this hobby. At somepoint, providers aren't as dumb as we think, they figure out who we are. That is the inherent risk of the hobby, I think.

There are some wonderfully reviewed providers here, that everyone swears by, and that people say that their personal info is safe.....but I won't give up my info to them at all.

There is one provider who screens, but through posting banter and pm's, actually told me in a PM that I was already "screened" in her book. But when I finally called, she still insisted on too much personal info, so I passed. That was her right to ask anyway, and my right to not give up the info.

I could be wrong, but it seems that the whole point of this thread is that someone is trying to accumulate personal info on hobbyists through access to certain provider's client lists...while acting like a friend/advisor/pimp/WK or whatever. That should make everybody open their eyes up wide....and that's why any newbie should have to read AND understand this.

The data miner in our midst, if he is capable of doing what it seems he can, is not too many steps away from having his "stable" start providing pictures of anyone using his girls. Couple that with the mined data (name, employer, SS#'s etc....) and this gets beyond concerning. Last thing I want is some anonymous pimp with all my personal info, and photos.......the possibilities are frightening.

Sounds crazy, but is it that far fetched to think about? Just asking......

elg.....

PS....this is not a slam at ladies who screen.....that is your right and I respect it.

cowboy8055 · 06-02-2013, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by elghund

JC,

All due respect, but I think that this thread should be mandatory reading for all newbies.

elg.......

I hope they take a couple tylenol first. I'm not a newbie and I find this thread to get more confusing as it moves along.

JohnnyCap · 06-02-2013, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyCap

OSD:
I have been told that with some providers if seeing a eccie members he did not like. would text over and over again when she was still on the date.

If that's true, the provider bears some responsibility. A lot in fact.

I'm saying that if a gal is getting text bombed in an appointment, she either has to turn the phone off or confess, "I'm not independent, and my pimp's panties are in a bunch."

elghund · 06-02-2013, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by cowboy8055

I hope they take a couple tylenol first. I'm not a newbie and I find this thread to get more confusing as it moves along.

No kiddin', Cowboy......

elg......

cowboy8055 · 06-02-2013, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by elghund

I could be wrong, but it seems that the whole point of this thread is that someone is trying to accumulate personal info on hobbyists through access to certain provider's client lists...while acting like a friend/advisor/pimp/WK or whatever. That should make everybody open their eyes up wide....and that's why any newbie should have to read AND understand this.

elg.....

That does seem to be the crux of this thread. I just wish there was more clarity and less speculation. It has opened my eyes. I understand why providers screen and I won't criticize them for it but with this kind of thing out there I won't likely submit to screening ever again.

Doove · 06-02-2013, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by elghund

Which goes hand in hand with what the majority of very established members say....do NOT give out personal info at all.

There was a recent newbie who unfortunately gave out all kinds of personal stuff.....SS# and the like....to someone he didn't know from a fucking rock. That guy needed to read this thread before he looked at a showcase or a BP ad......

I don't mind taking a chance. BUT, my info stays private, as best as I can in this hobby. At somepoint, providers aren't as dumb as we think, they figure out who we are. That is the inherent risk of the hobby, I think.

There are some wonderfully reviewed providers here, that everyone swears by, and that people say that their personal info is safe.....but I won't give up my info to them at all.

There is one provider who screens, but through posting banter and pm's, actually told me in a PM that I was already "screened" in her book. But when I finally called, she still insisted on too much personal info, so I passed. That was her right to ask anyway, and my right to not give up the info.

I could be wrong, but it seems that the whole point of this thread is that someone is trying to accumulate personal info on hobbyists through access to certain provider's client lists...while acting like a friend/advisor/pimp/WK or whatever. That should make everybody open their eyes up wide....and that's why any newbie should have to read AND understand this.

The data miner in our midst, if he is capable of doing what it seems he can, is not too many steps away from having his "stable" start providing pictures of anyone using his girls. Couple that with the mined data (name, employer, SS#'s etc....) and this gets beyond concerning. Last thing I want is some anonymous pimp with all my personal info, and photos.......the possibilities are frightening.

Sounds crazy, but is it that far fetched to think about? Just asking......

elg.....

PS....this is not a slam at ladies who screen.....that is your right and I respect it.

In other words, this thread needed little more than one post, yours, to get the point across.

Instead, we get this.

elghund · 06-02-2013, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Doove

In other words, this thread needed little more than one post, yours, to get the point across.

Instead, we get this.

Maybe.....but it took a while to put it together. At first, I was responding and nowhere near the point that OSD and Dearhunter were presenting...

Honestly, I re-read every post a couple times, until the light bulb lit up in my dim mind.......

elg.......

offshoredrilling · 06-02-2013, 10:07 AM

in the Madison thread others do remember that XY had another handle before Adlib. mmmmmm was it L something. Dam it why did I delete some of my PM's.

As Adlib had problems with a provider in Rochester, they stated fighting with each other. I remember that ADlib got banned for his part, but the provider did not. I never got all from other what he did to her. But it seems he outed some of her real life info, and as he had control of her website he deleted it.
all review of her where good till then. I'm not sure if that be related or not. But the timing along with reading the reviews I lead ta believe they may have been. mmmmm VPN I am not sure as to how long Adlib was banned for, but it seems to me the account went to Guest012413 to soon for the ban to be up.

But then we already had XY. Some have called me a drama queen. mmmm maybe as I did dig into the end of Adlib with that digging I was thinking as others that XY was ADlib. This starting my problems with local mods. But at same time thinking what is the local mod ta do. VPN VPN VPN, he had providers and other members using VPN. VPN makes it hard to tell who is who and just who all has control of any one account. I would have to think mods do not want ban many accounts cutting off some members for no good reason. Just to get one to mmmm six accounts. No easy way to tell who is who, and who was who. I'm sure eccie does not have a US military hacker. So now ya stuck no matter what one is thinking. Mod or member.

Then you have
Pimps Defended by Prostitutes
jackfengshui

Now I have to be thinkin also some members knowingly or not. After all a bit with Adlib and more so with XY. XY seemed ta have a in with the flavors of the month mmmm make that months.. ahhhh VPN VPN VPN. And seemingly only tie is VPN. and reviews of providers that I think from reviews very good at providing. But not at computers along with some cell phones. So he gave a gal fish but seemingly not how to go fishing computer wise. But the male fish's taking the bait nibbling and taking the bait like hell, mmmmm so who cares, only a few. Now I'm way into not trusting local mods at this point. Not even replying to many PM's.

Then I meet XY at the AC(his chose not mine, hay its a bar, anyone can walk in) It seemed strange to me he wanting to meet me. The chat seemed strange to me also. Leaving me feeling dirty and that I had made a mistake. He strangely shows next night stabbing me in the back with what I was thinking may have been my mistake. Well was sure now what mistake I made.

Some time latter he brings a provider to the AC for a small M&G. Most did not see it. a few others did. But to me he seemed to control just who all was going to get to see the provider BCD. Before hand I did not try and stop anyone from coming to Rochester, yet I did try and stop her from coming to the bar.mmmm easy to see in posts and that I did not stop a thing.

In the background I getting more story's of XY some just coming to me, others by pulling teeth. As I along not trusting local mods and sayin nothing.

Then I starting hearing of the one provider that had a problem with a date that he screened. That leads to I believe her being dumped by him from what I being told. And the destroying of any and all emails text or any other data he could get his hands on to cover up what went down, and all his ties to it. At this point BCC all PM and my reply's from mods to admins. Not trusting and thinkin or there hands maybe tied mmm or both. remember VPN VPN VPN

Forcing her to buy new cell and computer and this time learn more about use and taking time for herself without XY in the pic now.

mmmmm hope i did better this time so others can understand

offshoredrilling · 06-02-2013, 10:27 AM

I rather XY handle not be banned. But be made into a agency account or become a known eccie registered helper without PA. Wishing there was a way to force him to use a static IP when on eccie. All so as a better way to keep a eye on him.
mmmmmm I wonder what the next handle/s will be VPN VPN VPN

amherst14226 · 06-02-2013, 04:23 PM

As a complete FNG here on the board, I have to admit that this thread is confusing. I did finally see a VP, and gave her my work info as a screening mechanism. I then joked about providing my CC and SSN (I would say that I am not that stupid, but I did provide my work info... which was stupid). I was very anxious after reading this entire thread and then I got super paranoid. I went from being kind of excited about busting my provider cherry, to super paranoid. I truly appreciate the words of wisdom I have received from many of the veterans of this board, as well as a few of the VPs. Hopefully being screened once and having a reference now will suffice, as I will never give out personal info again.

offshoredrilling · 06-02-2013, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

in the Madison thread others do remember that XY had another handle before Adlib. mmmmmm was it L something. Dam it why did I delete some of my PM's.

As Adlib had problems with a provider in Rochester, they stated fighting with each other. I remember that ADlib got banned for his part, but the provider did not. I never got all from other what he did to her. But it seems he outed some of her real life info, and as he had control of her website he deleted it.
all review of her where good till then. I'm not sure if that be related or not. But the timing along with reading the reviews I lead ta believe they may have been. mmmmm VPN I am not sure as to how long Adlib was banned for, but it seems to me the account went to Guest012413 to soon for the ban to be up.

ok on this part I be getting some right on but why holding back. MMMMM the from others not totally true but it was something like that.

All of this is from my view looking from the outside. I can not see what mods have. And I came up with what I could see and from what others telling me form there view. dealing with her.(there view of from her eyes deal) So ya some may be not perfect. no one is saying that the jest of way off base. So bet ban or other action from mods on ether may be a bit off. HAY I not a mod.
Also much that can not be posted or repeated on ether side of the coin. sorry

dearhunter · 06-02-2013, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

ok on this part I am getting some right on but why holding back. MMMMM the information from others not totally true (as in some information cannot be shared) but it was something like that.

All of this is from my view looking at the information from the outside. I can not see what information mods have. And I came up with what I could see from what others are telling me from their view of dealing with her.(their view is from her eyes) So yeah some information may be not perfect. But, no one is saying that the jist of the information is way off base. So I bet the ban or other action from mods on ether may be a bit off. HEY I am not a mod.
Also, there is much that can not be posted or repeated on ether side of the coin. sorry

Reading your shit is like learning a new language........ red is to make sense of your ramblings