Safeguarding the Newbie Providers

[Maxx]

Great thread and topic Savak. Since all the ladies all have Powder Room access this "sticky" could be put there for them.

Kudos to you KKA for your Klassy act of Kindness & Kompassion towards other providers, you are a Klass act. Also to you Leo and all you other ladies (and Gents) that help and share their wealth of knowledge and experience in this industry!!!! I see it all to often in just some of the posts that you ladies put up! We are a family like community of friends for the most part and that's what's great here!

[KlassyKelliAnn]

Originally Posted by little willy

In theory this is a nice sentiment. However a good portion of the WW ladies are straight off of BP, and no matter how much they claim they are independent, they aren't! When you're contacting them, you are not even communicating with them. Freebies and discounts are being offered from the pimp. The ladies know nothing about it until they are told as to why they don't have to charge, or accept less for that session. So even with a Mentor, all that is receiving that Mentorship is a pimp.

Originally Posted by Leo Lanini

I'll offer a free photo session to the girl your helping. Nothing like starting new with great pics!

<3 humbly your,
Leo Lanini

You are beautiful!
I have relayed the offer to her.

KKA
XOXO

[Guest062114-5]

Originally Posted by Leo Lanini

I'll offer a free photo session to the girl your helping. Nothing like starting new with great pics!

<3 humbly your,
Leo Lanini

That's awesome!

I post quite a bit in the Legal Forum here. I hope y'all will suggest Newbie Providers take some time to read up on the posts there. Particularly the stickies by Shyster Jon.

[MzMarina210]

Thank you so much. I will definitely be in contact!

[Whispers]

Hi!

Welcome to ECCIE! Pics and some ideas on pricing and your thoughts will help you get a start.

You will find ECCIE to be a great resource if you spend a couple of days looking around and reading.

There are a lot of people here and most of us look out for each other in a variety of ways.

You are going to meet some who's self interest will be at your detriment so please be careful. Be smart and don't get talked into anything that makes you uncomfortable.

How do you recognize the guys out for themselves that you should avoid?

Well when you are new they come in all shapes and sizes and bearing offers to help you get started. Help you get verified. There may be a few offers that are legit but the majority of these guys are looking for a discount....or a freebie and often will walk out leaving you with nothing threatening to write a negative review of you if you say anything....

The key to your success here is getting verified but you do not have to offer a discount to do it. If a guy shows up and helps you get online and get to know things about this place you can usually expect to be worked for a discount or a free session.

Some guys will threaten to write a bad review. They want you to believe they are in control of your future here..... More bullshit.... Don't fall for it... ANY Guy suggesting any of that is simply out for himself most of the time. You should wait for the right person.

If you read you can probably identify a couple of ladies in CoEd that will be willing to give you a little advice. Send them a PM and ask.

If by any chance you are approached by a MOD who suggests that he be the one to verify you know that all the bullshit presented by them if they talk discounts or freebies is just that... bullshit.......What they are doing is highly unethical and if the owners of this site find out they are toast..... The site is littered with exMods that got caught. If so forward their PM to T.O.B. She is a lady at the top and will be interested in it. Copy me on it too please and I'll add it to the mix and fry his ass when it is enough....

So Good Luck. Feel free to PM if you have a question and I will point you to someone that can help you.

Oh...

Yeah....

Most of the ladies that post Welcomes in your Welcome Thread are not as friendly as they seem! They are doing so to get seen by the guys that are viewing your Welcome thread! You see.. THEY are the competition!

Have Fun and Be Safe!

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by Sonya Playmate

Klassy, You are a wonderful woman!! Also very nice of you to help out other ladies...

Yes she is and many many years ago she was a stripper!

Hey KKA... If any of these ladies are needing work and happen to be the kind that interest SL or myself let us know... We will step up and spend some money! Although from what I hear the SlamDango is not for the meek...

[KlassyKelliAnn]

Originally Posted by Whispers

Yes she is and many many years ago she was a stripper!

Hey KKA... If any of these ladies are needing work and happen to be the kind that interest SL or myself let us know... We will step up and spend some money! Although from what I hear the SlamDango is not for the meek...

Thank you to everyone for the kind sentiments. I feel all warm and gooey. Seriously, I am just glad I was able to help someone in need. I kept reading all these threads revolving around these young women and shit being slung back and forth and while there seemed to be some genuine concern by members for these ladies - no one was acting to help. So there is when I just happened to open my big mouth. I dont deserve any credit, it should go to all the ladies who decide to get out from under this pimp. Believe it or not, it is easier said than done and it is an extremely scary and even moreso dangerous thing to even attempt. So the credit goes to those who stand up and say ENOUGH.



And god damn it Whispers!!!!! You just HAD to use "many many" years ago in your post!??? Im not THAT damned old....yet. Lmao!
And I will keep you up to date of course. But Im just mentoring remember so they will be available here for the community if they so choose and on their own independently.


And thank you, savak, for a great thread.

KKA
XOXO

[savak]

Originally Posted by little willy

In theory this is a nice sentiment. However a good portion of the WW ladies are straight off of BP, and no matter how much they claim they are independent, they aren't!

Sure the lack of these girls independence might be a problem, and its a reality that we just went through with GFX and also a year ago with some of Dre's earlier work. you're saying that the provider might actually be the pimp we're talking to when we deal with a newbie provider.

But we should still put that offer up there. Some of the advice these ladies are going to provide is actually stuff that the pimp will not like and will ignore anyway, like:

-get a regular job and go to school
-use this industry to supplement your income or make easy money when you want something, don't use it as your main source of income.
-go low volume(no pimp is going to tell his provider to go low volume and one of my providers told me that with her agency she told her girls only one session per week!)
-don't show your face in your pictures, just your body (detrimental because no face pics potentially means less clients and less profit for the pimp).
-use only well verified clients with strong references.

and I'm sure theres other advice out there that I wouldn't even begin to think of off the top of my head cause I'm a guy and I don't know what the girls go through.

I'm not so cynical as to believe that some of the more experienced ladies here won't dispense good advice to the n00b providers.

Edit: of course verified experienced ladies, considering we might be dealing with pimps, yes help these girls, but also stay safe yourselves as well....just saying.

[KlassyKelliAnn]

Exactly!
Hey ya'll!!!! I found him, smart guy over here!!!!! ^^^^^^^^

KKA
XOXO

Originally Posted by savak

Sure the lack of these girls independence might be a problem, and its a reality that we just went through with GFX and also a year ago with some of Dre's earlier work. you're saying that the provider might actually be the pimp we're talking to when we deal with a newbie provider.

But we should still put that offer up there. Some of the advice these ladies are going to provide is actually stuff that the pimp will not like and will ignore anyway, like:

-get a regular job and go to school
-use this industry to supplement your income or make easy money when you want something, don't use it as your main source of income.
-go low volume(no pimp is going to tell his provider to go low volume and one of my providers told me that with her agency she told her girls only one session per week!)
-don't show your face in your pictures, just your body (detrimental because no face pics potentially means less clients and less profit for the pimp).
-use only well verified clients with strong references.

and I'm sure theres other advice out there that I wouldn't even begin to think of off the top of my head cause I'm a guy and I don't know what the girls go through.

I'm not so cynical as to believe that some of the more experienced ladies here won't dispense good advice to the n00b providers.

Edit: of course verified experienced ladies, considering we might be dealing with pimps, yes help these girls, but also stay safe yourselves as well....just saying.

[Erich711]

Originally Posted by little willy

So even with a Mentor, all that is receiving that Mentorship is a pimp.

Go away "little willy"... Oh wait... POOF! Then he was gone...

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by KlassyKelliAnn

And god damn it Whispers!!!!! You just HAD to use "many many" years ago in your post!??? Im not THAT damned old....yet. Lmao!
And I will keep you up to date of course.

Hey.... You do know that being older than 25 is like... sheesh... <ore than a Quarter of a Century old right?

And that was like.... hmmmm.... 1988 or so?.... So you were a Stripper Over a Quarter of a Century Ago!

hhmmmm..... Carry the 3 shift the decimal......

Ya know darlin......I think you could share a very unique perspective on Whispers and the young, impressionable and easily taken advantage of ladies..... I don't take advantage of anyone but I did know you way back then in your young and impressionable days! Hell you were there at the Birth of Whisper's Stripper Journey!.... Feel free to share anything you remember....

[full metal jackoff]

Originally Posted by Erich711

Go away "little willy"... Oh wait... POOF! Then he was gone...

Eric you are such a stupid fucking bonehead. It's no wonder the quality providers won't even give you the time of day. You are an idiot newb! I'm never gone except when I choose to turn off the phone!

[Whispers]

That died off kinda fast