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Still Looking · 12-05-2013, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Precious_b

Hell, SL.
I blindfold you and I don't tell you what for, you'd be satisfied with a hummer from either one. Probably moreso with the same sex since they know the equipment intimately.

Not at all. I want to be in control of what my choices are! Personally someone starting out as a male and transitioning into a female is something I want to know about up front! I'm pretty sure most providers want to know if they are seeing a man or a woman and also how many. Not withstanding wing men and camera crew.

Guest062114-5 · 12-05-2013, 02:24 PM

Slight thread hijack, but I've been curious to ask a different question.

Hypothetical: You're a hobbyist who has posted more than once that you only see white girls. I'm a provider, I post photos online and an accurate description. You like what you see. You contact me, I screen you. We meet and have a great time. Possibly your best ever, but definitely top five.

When you go to post a raving review of my skill and beauty, you notice that another hobbyist has made mention of the fact that I'm African American.

What do you do?

Edit/Clarification: accurate description that makes no mention of race (e.g., 5'9" long straight brown hair, green eyes, 38DD-28-38, curvy but fit).

FootLong · 12-05-2013, 02:28 PM

What's this about flip flopping, SL? My first post merely posed a question, to hear more about the issue. My second post stated I agree with pre-disclosure. I think you are reading something into my posts.

I do stand corrected on the sequence of disclosure/ad.

PB makes a good point though. What if you had the great session, and you never found out the girl was previously a guy? You would never know to be upset.

LilMynx69, that question I think you should pose in another thread. Because in your scenario, you say you post an accurate description, therefore it sounds like pre-disclosure is made, so it does not really relate to this thread. IMO.

Still Looking · 12-05-2013, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by FootLong

The person in your example link does put it up front in her ad...

I don't have an answer to your question, but I have another question.

If you saw a girl that was totally hot, had a session with her that was totally hot, and left feeling totally satisfied....then found out later "she" was once a 'he'...what is the problem? What is your concern? I must be missing a point somewhere...

With disclosure you would know up front. Sounds here like you think it shouldn't matter! At least that's what I gleaned from the question you posed.

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Originally Posted by FootLong

"Colon cowboy" is not technically accurate - unless you fuck her in the ass. She is post-op, so she has a 'pussy', albeit a manufactured one.

But I get it. Most guys have a mental aversion to being intimate with someone who has male DNA, even if they look and act completely like a female. I envision a future where you perform a quick DNA scan before proceeding with the encounter...

If this were not an SL thread, it could almost get philosophical!

I guess I concur with Joe Buck. Based on the passions expressed, it is best to fully disclose up front to avoid the possibility of someone getting hurt. I believe most TS do in fact disclose this. But I can see how someone who has had the 'change' and always thought of herself as 'female' might lose sight of the reason for disclosure.

In this post it would seem you now agree with disclosure.

Guest062114-5 · 12-05-2013, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FootLong

What's this about flip flopping, SL? My first post merely posed a question, to hear more about the issue. My second post stated I agree with pre-disclosure. I think you are reading something into my posts.

I do stand corrected on the sequence of disclosure/ad.

PB makes a good point though. What if you had the great session, and you never found out the girl was previously a guy? You would never know to be upset.

LilMynx69, that question I think you should pose in another thread. Because in your scenario, you say you post an accurate description, therefore it sounds like pre-disclosure is made, so it does not really relate to this thread. IMO.

I post an accurate physical description that makes no mention of race. I don't want to put words in your mouth but are you saying an accurate description MUST include race?

FootLong · 12-05-2013, 02:59 PM

OK, SL. You're reading into it with your 'gleaning'. But hopefully most people understand.

LilMynx, it is still a separate issue, as "accurate physical description" does not apply in the TS situation, since a TS can look physically like a female. You really should start a thread, as your question is an interesting one.

johnnyglaze · 12-05-2013, 03:33 PM

just my opinion on the matter, but it would make a lot more sense if the TS/post op had their very own AD forum so everyone knew before hand who they were seeing and not feel mislead by some of the ads. some may look very real like woman, but since this is a service that the men are paying for. shouldnt it come as an understanding that if he thinks he is getting a natural woman that he is not to find out later he didnt.

Guest062114-5 · 12-05-2013, 03:50 PM

The reason I posted it here is because my black lesbian coworker says that going out with a guy who is openly against interracual dating and not disclosing that you're indeed African Anerican is the same as being a post-op transsexual and not disclosing.

I don't think it is, but she thinks so...

guy fawkes · 12-05-2013, 04:53 PM

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The reason I posted it here is because my black lesbian coworker says that going out with a guy who is openly against interracual (Iinterracial) dating and not disclosing that you're indeed African Anerican(American) is the same as being a post-op transsexual and not disclosing.

A lesbian that is black says" that I am guessing that she is a guy that is a klansman that is dating a black woman and not doing it openly is the same as a POST-OP not disclosing his operation. THIS IS NO WHERE THE SAME.

Still Looking · 12-05-2013, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LilMynx69

The reason I posted it here is because my black lesbian coworker says that going out with a guy who is openly against interracual dating and not disclosing that you're indeed African Anerican is the same as being a post-op transsexual and not disclosing.

I don't think it is, but she thinks so...

I need a scotch to try and figure this one out!

Somebody is black and lesbian and they have a job. "She" says a "guy" (don't know anything about him?) who is "against" interracual (interracial?) dating and not disclosing that your AA (how do you hide that?) is the same as being a post-op transsexual and not disclosing.

I still don't get it?

Still Looking · 12-05-2013, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by guy fawkes

A lesbian that is black says" that I am guessing that she is a guy that is a klansman that is dating a black woman and not doing it openly is the same as a POST-OP not disclosing his operation. THIS IS NO WHERE THE SAME.

Are you guys related? I still don't get it?

Guest062114-5 · 12-05-2013, 06:35 PM

In the hypothetical. The guy, quite frankly is a racist who hates blacks, but he hooks up with a provider who is African American but he doesn't notice because, apparently she looks white to him. But he finds our later that she is Black, just really light skinned or has so called "European features."

Still Looking · 12-05-2013, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LilMynx69

In the hypothetical. The guy, quite frankly is a racist who hates blacks, but he hooks up with a provider who is African American but he doesn't notice because, apparently she looks white to him. But he finds our later that she is Black, just really light skinned or has so called "European features."

Now I get it! DAYUM.... I don't think that's the same at all.

Guest062114-5 · 12-05-2013, 07:34 PM

Neither do I, my black lesbian coworker says it is...

nerdy123 · 12-05-2013, 08:49 PM

I think, especially in post op world, If she has identified herself as a woman, more power to her. If she is hot, and is sexy, and has a vagina, I may do that. If I know she is post op- then I am informed . I don't look on it as "She used to be a man", I look on it as she is what she should have been.

There was that girl on Price is Right that used to be a "Man"

I will leave the definition of man up to all of you