Sad reflections on the past

[Little friend]

I agree with the parasite problem,but some girls just like being the big dog. Fleas like the big dogs, but before they know it they're in deep. Daily supplies cost more than money. The sad part is they don't see the changes in the mirror. In one year they age 10+.
But if someone wants to do that to themselves, refuses to change, it is their right. As long as they don't harm others in the process. If they have a medical condition and need help its available but they have to make the choice.
You can't change anyone but yourself.

This is life and there are no dress rehearsals.

[jokacz]

This is all about addictions and codependency.

Physician, heal thyself.

[Carlos Danger]

Overnights avail?

[stillgotit]

6 years ago my wife died. 7 months later decided to give it a try. Huge mistake. Met a fellow who let gals use his home as a safe place. He told me this "Never get involved- they are all damaged goods." He was right. Most suffer from severe psychological problems or drugs. Sex with no emotion or feelings is a waste of time. These women are out for the money- period.
And there are those who will take advantage of you if they can. No conscience. Some are true psychopaths with no conscience. I've met only one I would call a real escort.

[Frankie Fine]

Originally Posted by iscrewedmeganfox

I know I have been abrasive lately. I realize now it is because I feel so bad about things that happened in the past. It really is sad to me to see young women chewed up and spit out by the biz they get into (for whatever reason). I got really messed up in the head seeing my ATF destroy herself and be destroyed by the predators and parasites that hover around beautiful young vulnerable women. I tried with everything I had to save her, but I failed her. I don't think i will ever get over that. I hope she is okay. I pray for her everyday. Just a little insight into an ECCIE member who does not see this "hobby" the same way now nor will i ever again. There are things that cannot be forgotten no matter how hard a man tries.

What a sweet person you are imho, somedays it's best to try and be happy to suck air in and out my friend, life has it's moments, and sometimes it gets better and can go the other way too

[FlyboyNY]

Have to disagree somewhat with you Stillgotit. Albeit there are some crazy ones out there and probably even some down right dangerous. But as a hobbyist that has 30 years under his belt (no pun intended) I can say I have met many sweet hearts along the way that were just trying to make it in a difficult world. Some of those I am still in contact with. And a couple of the girls actually enjoy what they do and it shows. My 2 ATF's who I see on a regular basis and have for a long time are as normal outside the hobby as I am. I have met my share of girls who are doing it because they feed an addiction or are being forced to support someone else. But I only see them once because if there is no chemistry at all between us I move on. And sometimes people change. One of my favorites who came back from sabbatical just sent me a "dear john" text saying our schedules no longer worked. I had told her I wouldn't be available till after summer but I guess I was too busy too long. Had to travel alot till a couple weeks ago but now am home for the most part. Too bad because I adore this girl and stayed in contact with her while she was not providing. But everybody has their reasons for what they do. I believe if you are careful and aware you can find great fun and companionship in this hobby.

[offshoredrilling]

Originally Posted by stillgotit

6 years ago my wife died. 7 months later decided to give it a try. Huge mistake. Met a fellow who let gals use his home as a safe place. He told me this "Never get involved- they are all damaged goods." He was right. Most suffer from severe psychological problems or drugs. Sex with no emotion or feelings is a waste of time. These women are out for the money- period.
And there are those who will take advantage of you if they can. No conscience. Some are true psychopaths with no conscience. I've met only one I would call a real escort.

being damaged goods myself, just not in the same way. I would say that depends on how one looks at things. One just needs to pick how to get involved. Most should not other than as hobbyist. Being a client for me is a safety net rather than a way to get .....................

[Bushman69]

What a pathetic pity party. I think you guys spend so much time on this board your menstral cycles have synced.

[jokacz]

Originally Posted by Bushman69

What a pathetic pity party. I think you guys spend so much time on this board your menstral cycles have synced.

You know, I thought I smelled something.

[offshoredrilling]

Originally Posted by Bushman69

What a pathetic pity party. I think you guys spend so much time on this board your menstral cycles have synced.

joy box or joy stick errrr just askin

[jackfengshui]

I share FlyboyNY's perspective.

[Guest121613]

this a good thread, just some basic rules I abide by usually, the hobby can a great thing

1) Don't be an asshole
2) Don't talk too much
3) Don't pay in advance
4) Some escorts, you are going to like better, that's ok, but don't sell the farm
5) Escorts are not property, even when they are on the clock, (also, they are not available for texting 24/7)
6) PT, some have issues, some its ok, but really, stay away. you already doing one thing illegal and is hard to enforce, but PT, much higher conviction rate (let good sex be the high)
7) Pay your dues, you can't screw the best, until you have been screwed by the worst, LoL
8) It can be fun to make driver status

Beam me up scotty

[Little friend]

[QUOTE=stillgotit; "Never get involved- they are all damaged goods." He was right. Most suffer from severe psychological problems or drugs. Sex with no emotion or feelings is a waste of time. These women are out for the money- period.
And there are those who will take advantage of you if they can. No conscience. Some are true psychopaths with no conscience.[/QUOTE]

If you think stillgotit is wrong,you're wrong. Whomever said addiction and codependency was spot on. Lies and stories they can't remember from one minute to the next,told to acquire whatever....with your money.

Losing a whole year
And if it's not the defense then you're on the attack
When you start talking I hear the Prozac
Convinced you've found your place
With the pierced queer teens in Cyberspace
When you were yourself it tasted sweet
But it sours into a routine deceit
Well this drama is a bore
And I don't want to play no more
Losing a whole year

[Guest120615-3]

ISMF- you demonstrated humanity's best when someone was at their worst. You showed kindness and caring for little or nothing in return. Never be ashamed or hurt by that. As JB stated earlier, you were a client. If family and friends failed to help this woman, a client though empathetic and thoughtful has no chance. You can only hope and pray she betters herself.

And when she does, "out" her. There's no excuse for making you, the client, sad!

Originally Posted by lostforkate

this a good thread, just some basic rules I abide by usually, the hobby can a great thing

1) Don't be an asshole
2) Don't talk too much
3) Don't pay in advance
4) Some escorts, you are going to like better, that's ok, but don't sell the farm
5) Escorts are not property, even when they are on the clock, (also, they are not available for texting 24/7)
6) PT, some have issues, some its ok, but really, stay away. you already doing one thing illegal and is hard to enforce, but PT, much higher conviction rate (let good sex be the high)
7) Pay your dues, you can't screw the best, until you have been screwed by the worst, LoL
8) It can be fun to make driver status

Beam me up scotty

Great advice LFK!

[JONBALLS]

family and friends do or did try to help no doubt over and over but in alot of instances

got so sick of their buhlshit , even their own family said fuck this


and did the only and best thing to do

send them out on the street so she can find rock bottom , some are gonna realize how to adapt and function, get clean..or die

but as for a john,, your a means to an end

not continue to enable like the johns that are really only finding an angle for their own desires, its realized ,overlooked or subconsciously played out with the johns trying to "help".....there is NO helping from a client, only furthering

and if you think the actual family is feeling the johns heartbreak equally

yah ..right, more like multiplied by millions or your too farr into your own head and self centered