The trouble with outrageous extras in Strip Clubs

[Kaci Snow]

I danced 10 years and when I did I made great money stretch marks and it did not mess with what I made. However, I do agree with the fact that there is a point in time when you need to get off the stage. I have worked with ladies in clubs that have offered extras starting at 20 and others that would charge as much as 400/500. It's all about the clients and the level of respect that you have for yourself. I personally like when I go to a club and they have a wide selection of ladies. I don't want to see a bunch of girls that look like they need to eat. I want to see nice hips thighs and ass.

[KittyLamour]

Jewish Lawyer,
I would say your observances are right on the money.

I started in the Gentlemen's Entertainment industry 20 yrs ago at the age of 19. The first club I danced at was Baby Dolls Saloon on NW Hwy. After that, I worked at several of the upscale clubs including, Cabaret Royale (which was newly opened) Million Dollar Saloon and The Gold Club before finally finding my niche at Caligula XXI.

Ah, those were the golden days of the industry, and life was great! The economy was good and big money flowed in the clubs. It was not uncommon to leave work with well over $1,000 to $1,500 after a lucrative night's work. There was a well-enforced "look, but don't touch" policy, and in fact, we pulled out a little pedestal from under the clients seat and danced on it. He kept his hands in his lap and if he did touch a vigilant bouncer would toss him out. Caligula actually had the dancer applying to work there come in and audition and was the only club to require a prospective entertainer to pass a drug screening. Dancers bought T-backs that cost upwards of $400 made of Austrian crystals, wore full length, hand beaded evening gowns and drove high end luxury cars.

Alas, those days are with us no more. I treasure the memories and the excitement and the pampered lifestyle I was able to afford once... I was shocked to find out just how much it all has changed in the topless world. Now it's NUDE. Unheard of mostly at that time, except for dives like the Pink Pussycat, that no respectable dancer would dare to enter.

As an entertainer, I never offered any type of thing that is common in the clubs now. Never entertained a client after hours. Why would I? I made more than enough money and really, after performing 2-3 sets in a night, made enough money on stage that I did not have to work the floor for table dances.

Those were the days.... I miss them now.

[wellendowed1911]

Originally Posted by Jewish Lawyer

35 years ago when I started going to strips clubs, any girl would do - I was in high school, and seeing a naked lady was great. After awhile, after seeing a few, I became a little more discerning. In my twenties, when girls where getting 20 per dance, and having to do nothing but air, it was a job a girl could make plenty of money doing. In my thirties, about 20 years ago, were the best years of the clubs. You would get contact, and you could feel the girls tits and ass. However, I rarely saw or heard of fucking and sucking going on, nor stripper slides. The girls were very pretty, because paying just to look and cop a small feel meant the ugly girls had nothing to offer, and the clubs had many gorgeous, semi-respectable girls working there.
Nowadays, many guys brag about getting FS in the club for less than 100 bucks, unprotected stripper slides COP, and 40 dollar L2, and it is making it a business that the ugly girls are taking over, with some excellent exceptions. Those guys look at us as chumps for being willing to pay more money to populate the clubs with prettier girls, rather than the current bunch of ugly, fat girls who will suck dick out of desperation. I can get that shit for free from an ugly girl, so it is no accomplishment to get a fat, ugly girl to suck your dick for 40 bucks. Hell, go to South Dallas and get a crack girl if it is all about price, I've had them offer me a $5 blow job - and I turned them down they were so ugly and dirty.
So, when I'm in the club, throwing hundreds of dollars on a girl for minimal contact dances who is absolutely gorgeous, don't look at me like a simple minded chump. Look at me as someone who makes it worthwhile for a hot chick to show up for us all to admire. I'm not ruining the business for you cheapskates, because you are getting what you are paying for, which is getting girls who should be working at a cheap diner waitressing to come into the clubs and embarrass and degrade themselves for next to nothing.
I'd rather pay 1000 dollars to have a sexual experience with a beautiful, classy lady than come on a 5 dollar whore any day.

I think you are right- also add Backpage to this convo- at least in Dallas you can look on BP and find girls offering 40, 60 and 80 dollars- hey that may sound nice to the avg hoe- but it dilutes the market- sorry but I think 40,60, and 80 dollars for escorts is borderline "crackhead" and street walker rates. At one point in time to get an "escort" it was seen as a luxury for men who can afford it- but now the avg 9 to 5 joe can afford to go on BP and get a girl.

[Logan]

In the 90s there were only a handful of strip clubs each in Dallas, Arlington and Fort Worth. The clubs were also mostly “no touch” and I remember the days if you touched a dancer’s breast, you would have been thrown out….over the yearz…

….new clubz popped up everywhere and existing club chains expanded. Clubs had to compete with internet pornography and the growing escort scene. When guys could sit at home and get crystal clear porn streamed into their house via the internet, why pay for air dances in the club? Clubz had to abandon the “no touch” policy and compete with the other clubs for customers and dancers. The quality of dancers spread thin across all of the different clubz….

Originally Posted by Jewish Lawyer

Nowadays, many guys brag about getting FS in the club for less than 100 bucks, unprotected stripper slides COP, and 40 dollar L2, and it is making it a business that the ugly girls are taking over, with some excellent exceptions. Those guys look at us as chumps for being willing to pay more money to populate the clubs with prettier girls, rather than the current bunch of ugly, fat girls who will suck dick out of desperation....

.....So, when I'm in the club, throwing hundreds of dollars on a girl for minimal contact dances who is absolutely gorgeous, don't look at me like a simple minded chump.

The first time I got extras in a strip club, I saw this guy wearing jeans and a sports coat that spent 200 on “just dances” with this dancer named Abbey. It was my turn next, and I unzipped and coaxed her into sticking her hands inside of my pants for a handjob. She agreed to do this for a 100 and I remember her sitting at the bar with sticky fingers while I went to the ATM to get the rest of her money…

…the look on her face while she sat there with sticky fingers was priceless. She took my money and said she was going to go wash her hands in the back. He he. Never saw her again. Now the guy in jeans that spent 200 for “just dances” was a complete fool.

The last good stripper slide with COP that I got a week or so ago was from a Baby Dolls dancer with an athletic high school type of body. She is a cute 19 yo and she isn’t fat or cheap. Just a very good girl. Yes, it was only the second time she danced for me, but she gave me a very naughty stripper slide and let me ejaculate all over her teen vagina. She just pulled up her bottoms and I gave her 200+ for being such a good girl…

…now the suckers in her club pay her 300 – 500 for “just dances”. She’ll often tell me – “This guy just gave me 500!” and I just laugh. She will not ask me for dances on the 1st or 15th when the suckers get paid that throw away their money on “just dances”. I saw a dancer this week ask a guy – “You love me, don’t you?”….and this guy was giving her 300 for just dances and following her around stage to stage like a puppy in love…

….There are fat, sloppy dancers that will do anything for money, but also pretty cute 18-20 yos that will play around in the club and outside of the club as well. If some guyz want to throw hundreds at a cute dancer for just dances – nothing wrong with that, but don’t get mad when that same cute dancer does stripper slides w/COP with another customer who isn’t interested in “just dances”.

[Guest070818-1]

Originally Posted by Logan

In the 90s there were only a handful of strip clubs each in Dallas, Arlington and Fort Worth. The clubs were also mostly “no touch” and I remember the days if you touched a dancer’s breast, you would have been thrown out….over the yearz…

….new clubz popped up everywhere and existing club chains expanded. Clubs had to compete with internet pornography and the growing escort scene. When guys could sit at home and get crystal clear porn streamed into their house via the internet, why pay for air dances in the club? Clubz had to abandon the “no touch” policy and compete with the other clubs for customers and dancers. The quality of dancers spread thin across all of the different clubz….



The first time I got extras in a strip club, I saw this guy wearing jeans and a sports coat that spent 200 on “just dances” with this dancer named Abbey. It was my turn next, and I unzipped and coaxed her into sticking her hands inside of my pants for a handjob. She agreed to do this for a 100 and I remember her sitting at the bar with sticky fingers while I went to the ATM to get the rest of her money…

…the look on her face while she sat there with sticky fingers was priceless. She took my money and said she was going to go wash her hands in the back. He he. Never saw her again. Now the guy in jeans that spent 200 for “just dances” was a complete fool.

The last good stripper slide with COP that I got a week or so ago was from a Baby Dolls dancer with an athletic high school type of body. She is a cute 19 yo and she isn’t fat or cheap. Just a very good girl. Yes, it was only the second time she danced for me, but she gave me a very naughty stripper slide and let me ejaculate all over her teen vagina. She just pulled up her bottoms and I gave her 200+ for being such a good girl…

…now the suckers in her club pay her 300 – 500 for “just dances”. She’ll often tell me – “This guy just gave me 500!” and I just laugh. She will not ask me for dances on the 1st or 15th when the suckers get paid that throw away their money on “just dances”. I saw a dancer this week ask a guy – “You love me, don’t you?”….and this guy was giving her 300 for just dances and following her around stage to stage like a puppy in love…

….There are fat, sloppy dancers that will do anything for money, but also pretty cute 18-20 yos that will play around in the club and outside of the club as well. If some guyz want to throw hundreds at a cute dancer for just dances – nothing wrong with that, but don’t get mad when that same cute dancer does stripper slides w/COP with another customer who isn’t interested in “just dances”.

It's usually the guys who are "green" who will blow their money in the strip clubs like that for dances. They don't know any better. It's only the seasoned vets who come in the club and look for something to bargain with. Either way, it's still fun and games.

IMHO, I think a lot of the gorgeous girls in the club end up getting sugar daddies, married, or go into some type of modeling work. Honestly with the little money that is being spent in the strip clubs these days, the top 10s would be better off auditioning as a model or something lucrative.

[MickeyBlue]

Originally Posted by brownsugarbaby

, or go into some type of modeling work. .

You would be under whelmed by how much legitimate modeling actually pays.

[Guest070818-1]

Originally Posted by MickeyBlue

You would be under whelmed by how much legitimate modeling actually pays.

I heard many models are always out of work. Maybe they went and did adult modeling or porn. Lol

[oldbutstillgoing]

Responding to comments about wasting money in clubs. Not all guys who spend for "just" dances are "Stupid" or "Green". Some, but not all. Just as with the hobby, guys have different needs and goals. I have had dancers who I have banged in less than an hour after meeting them for very little money. Others I have had dance for me for YEARS with nothing more than a little fondling and a kiss or two. Different women fill different needs at different times. And guess what? I have spent FAR more in the long run on the women who most likely will never have sex with me and don't regret a dime of it.

The really sad part is so many dancers will just assume all I want to do is fuck. So they husstle me for that $100 for a quicky and miss out on far more than that. The real professional exotic dancers learn to tell money from the guys who want it as cheap as possible. These are the dancers who DON"T show up stoned or get drunk every night. They don't let every guy stick a finger in them after a dance. We may end up having "extras" of some kind but only after we establish some kind of relationship. Or not.

There just seem to be so few true professionals in the clubs any more. It takes time to learn the skills needed to set yourself apart from the masses. And competition for a smaller pool of money is tough. I look for these rare gems and do still find them in most of the clubs I go to. LOL, There is one girl at a club I go to that I buy drinks for and get a couple of dances from every time I go in. She likes it as that makes me very different from most of the guys she sees. But, she keeps asking me when we are going to have sex. I keep telling her I like what we have and dont want to spoil it. I tell her when she is ready it will be a nice night out like a real date. She wants to try that one night but she just does not seem to understand why I wont do her in the club.

That is not to say guys like Logan, whose stories I love, are bad in some way. As I said, guys have different needs at different times from different women.

[VIP Mya Michelle]

Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

I think you are right- also add Backpage to this convo- at least in Dallas you can look on BP and find girls offering 40, 60 and 80 dollars- hey that may sound nice to the avg hoe- but it dilutes the market- sorry but I think 40,60, and 80 dollars for escorts is borderline "crackhead" and street walker rates. At one point in time to get an "escort" it was seen as a luxury for men who can afford it- but now the avg 9 to 5 joe can afford to go on BP and get a girl.

+1 amen , if a girl only knew about back page she would beileve that men just arent spending over $100 for an hour now-a-days (atleast in dallas) how did BP become so low? Did Bp once upon a time have $200+ escorts on there?

Originally Posted by TonyRomoWasHere

The Lodge is still it for the hot chicks, no extras

I want to know what it is like for ladies who work at the so called "high end strip clubs" now,. I have only had the chance to get into ( i mean just visit as a customer not work at ) the ones that are much less classy, and allow women in unescorted, like ONyx, or Dallas Gentlemens.

I will say last time i went to DG's i was astouned. All of the girls were walking around butt naked, no one had a top on... guys were touching everything everywhere with $1 in their hand, standing and holding onto ass for like 5 minutes just carressing it....

The stage dances seemed to generate some guys throwing lots of money on certain girls... it was really sad cause one girl they would tip the next girl would not get NOT ONE tip! Lots of guys standing around not tipping at all... just had their hands in their pants (probably jacking off while staring) i dunno but i sure was glad i didnt work there!

But what is it like in the baby dolls, and the lodge's, and the silver cities... are the men who go in there just readily tipping? does every customer that goes in have at least $100 to spend? I will admit before i decide to become a full time escort, i tried to get hired at silver city, the lodge, jaguars... and boy i gotta tell, every body and their mother must wanna be a stripper cause those clubs are never hiring . Or maybe it was just me.... meh either way i also wanna know how high are clubs like those house fee's and dj and house mom fee? i know the less classy clubs charge the girls about $50-60 total tip outs a night with it being more on the weekends. I would imagine that in high upscale clubs are charging the girls like $150 - 200 a night to work... if they are getting guys to give them $500 for "just dances"

someone clue me in

[exoticdanceweardealer]

What are y'all talking about? Geez what do you consider hot? 110 lbs, b cups, tiny ass? You know we all have various tastes right? What I consider the hottest dancer I have ever seen was a dark tanned thick (chubby) 40+ year old milf with big ol' titties and a fat bottom. I almost jizzed myself tipping her on a tall stage which as a SEASONED strip club enthusiast I have to say that I avoid generally like the plague. I tipped her for a dance and honestly wish to God I walked in there with more than $40.00 that night because I wouldn't have stopped if I didn't have to.

No, we have our various ideas on what is hot and by God if I ever come into serious money I will put some dirty Milf's grandkids through college, like 3-4 of them.

[RideFreeInTexas]

My buddies and I used to hit the clubs often around 15 years ago, mainly BDD and MDS. As others mentioned it was a pretty strict no touch policy unless they were sitting on your lap with clothes on and even then it was back-patting. I recently went to BDD with one of the guys I used to go clubbing with and I was blown away at how different it is now. I had two lap dances and wasn't touching, both girls actually grabbed my hands and put them on them and said "It's OK to touch", LOL! They also were sticking their nipples in my mouth, I was stunned. Yeah I enjoyed it, but couldn't get over how different things are now! This was before I found this site, reading up on all the extras guys are getting was a real eye-opener too.

The lady I go to for FBSM is a former dancer and she said back then that extras did not happen in any way shape or form in the clubs she worked in (which jives with my experience as well). She said she often participated in after-club-activities though. One of my buddies did that quite a bit, but I didn't because I was happily married at the time.

[exoticdanceweardealer]

Hah, yep big differences. I remember when I would keep my hands to my sides and grumble while hot ass girls would grind me raw.

[Grace Preston]

Sadly, for the most part the era of the gown club is long gone. Back in my early dancer days, if you weren't on the stage, you had to wear a full length evening gown. Touching was a no-go and it was rare to hear of ladies having OTC time after work. You actually had to be able to dance to get hired and must have "the look".

Funny story-- was going to a club with a friend of mine a few weeks back up north. She joked as we were walking in that I should dance and I told her... NO WAY-- I am too big for that now. Opened the door, and the girl on stage was bigger than me. I died a little inside.

[Guest070818-1]

Originally Posted by Mya Michelle

+1 amen , if a girl only knew about back page she would beileve that men just arent spending over $100 for an hour now-a-days (atleast in dallas) how did BP become so low? Did Bp once upon a time have $200+ escorts on there?




I want to know what it is like for ladies who work at the so called "high end strip clubs" now,. I have only had the chance to get into ( i mean just visit as a customer not work at ) the ones that are much less classy, and allow women in unescorted, like ONyx, or Dallas Gentlemens.

I will say last time i went to DG's i was astouned. All of the girls were walking around butt naked, no one had a top on... guys were touching everything everywhere with $1 in their hand, standing and holding onto ass for like 5 minutes just carressing it....

The stage dances seemed to generate some guys throwing lots of money on certain girls... it was really sad cause one girl they would tip the next girl would not get NOT ONE tip! Lots of guys standing around not tipping at all... just had their hands in their pants (probably jacking off while staring) i dunno but i sure was glad i didnt work there!

But what is it like in the baby dolls, and the lodge's, and the silver cities... are the men who go in there just readily tipping? does every customer that goes in have at least $100 to spend? I will admit before i decide to become a full time escort, i tried to get hired at silver city, the lodge, jaguars... and boy i gotta tell, every body and their mother must wanna be a stripper cause those clubs are never hiring . Or maybe it was just me.... meh either way i also wanna know how high are clubs like those house fee's and dj and house mom fee? i know the less classy clubs charge the girls about $50-60 total tip outs a night with it being more on the weekends. I would imagine that in high upscale clubs are charging the girls like $150 - 200 a night to work... if they are getting guys to give them $500 for "just dances"

someone clue me in

I think most people here are talking about the higher end clubs where conversation and looks make $$$. (Unlike most urban clubs). Lol however, I'd rather work at Onyx and DGs for 1s on stage than to sit down and talk to a man and convince him to buy a $250 bottle for VIP (considering $250 goes to the club). I'm not a good liar.

Mya, clubs like baby dolls and the lodge turn down most black girls that look for a Job. I have friends that work at these clubs, and they told me that they had to know people to even get hired. Also, they are both really skinny with no ass, hips, or anything. Me on the other hand, I have a whole lotta ass and at 5'10, I'm pretty fucking intimidating in stripper heels.

Also, the black man's thick is the white man's BBW. This is especially true in strip clubs lol.

I love dancing and I still do it occasionally. I'd rather dance on stage than walk around the club. I'm too impatient for my money in the SC. If the girls are making $100-200 at high end SCs with conversation and lap dances, I'd rather go on stage a couple of times and be done with it.

[TonyRomoWasHere]

Originally Posted by brownsugarbaby

I think most people here are talking about the higher end clubs where conversation and looks make $$$. (Unlike most urban clubs). Lol however, I'd rather work at Onyx and DGs for 1s on stage than to sit down and talk to a man and convince him to buy a $250 bottle for VIP (considering $250 goes to the club). I'm not a good liar.

Mya, clubs like baby dolls and the lodge turn down most black girls that look for a Job. I have friends that work at these clubs, and they told me that they had to know people to even get hired. Also, they are both really skinny with no ass, hips, or anything. Me on the other hand, I have a whole lotta ass and at 5'10, I'm pretty fucking intimidating in stripper heels.

Also, the black man's thick is the white man's BBW. This is especially true in strip clubs lol.

I love dancing and I still do it occasionally. I'd rather dance on stage than walk around the club. I'm too impatient for my money in the SC. If the girls are making $100-200 at high end SCs with conversation and lap dances, I'd rather go on stage a couple of times and be done with it.

I have always been intrigued in the differences between an urban club and one that goes after the white customer.

Never been in an urban one, but have always thought (and this post semi-confirms) that the stage is where a bunch of money is exchange in urban clubs. There are the stories of guys "making it rain" and just throwing $ at the girl on stage. Never understood that at all...

Even if not looking for extras, definitely want a more personal experience for my money. Thought of throwing a wad of cash in the air is crazy to me.