Pimp or Agency? or Marco hmmm you decide!

[Discreet-Elite]

My My!

First I'd like to thank you Absolutely, for creating more of a buzz than we already have!
I could hire you as my publicist.

My name is Ella, I assist the ladies of Discreet Elite. I do all of their booking, advertising (pay for), scheduling, emails, website, phones. I, Ella; work for them: Victoria Divine, GFE Alyssa Moxie, Amber Zeles, Bianca of San Antonio. If you feel it is any of your business, they gladly pay me 30% for all my very hard endless work.

Keep in mind; marketing, having a career, children, answering the phones, answering emails, getting ready for appointments, taking appointments, dealing with cancelation, and meeting your financial goals is not an easy job. A women's work is never done, as they say. I know the ladies I book for appreciate me very much. They are able to give 100% to the gentleman they are spending time with.

The women of Discreet Elite have a great work chemistry and we all get along very well as a sisterhood.

As Spacemtn the Moderator said, I have been vouched and verified under the guidelines of this board.
So set your worries aside.

We are waiting to make our official debut in the Welcome Wagon when the website is complete.

We are a collaborative of women who aim to give our friends the best they deserve.

The ladies I book for are all career women with financial goals and busy schedules. Given there civilian employment in these hard economic times, they choose to provide as well.

We have been around since mid August 2012. The ladies I mentioned are pretty new to the hobby, but not at all new to knowing how to treat a gentleman. Somehow I gravitate to absolutely strikingly beautiful, natural born GFE ladies. We are all on the up and up thus far, and forever will be. That is a promise. You may search Discreet Elite on preferred 411.

My goal is to introduce new, top notch, exceptional providers to the community.

Please don't generalize and stereotype a provider/agency/collective of women, about how often and where they advertise.

Thank you for your inquiry and support.
Good day to all!

Sincerely,

Discreet Ella Amour

[Whispers]

Personally, I've had some really great relationships with Agencies and their owners in houston, South Florida and Los Angeles.

Austin has proven to be the first city where I have not found what I look for in a relationship with an Agency so I welcome any newcomer to the fold and wish them the best of luck.

I source my own product better than the average guy but at times I have an itch that needs to be scratched and I don't have the time for much research.

A great booking Agent that knows my likes and dislikes and gives me honest and straight input about their talent is always appreciated.

Over the years a lot of ladies I have seen enter the business have needed mentoring and having a good agency to refer them to has saved me from a lot of headaches.


Whatever deal is made between the Provider and the Agency is none of our business. It works for them.

All any hobbyist should care about is the quality of the TCB as handled by the Agency and the services from the lady they send.

The only practice I dislike is when an agency "handles" a ladies On Board Personna, PMs or emails WITHOUT CLEARLY IDENTIFYING WHO THEY ARE.

Full disclosure is needed. To be honest. I can be more up front with a booker than I will usually be with the provider herself.

Good Luck Ella!

[Discreet-Elite]

^Very good points^

Yes I always make myself known over the phone and via email.
If I were not in the picture, these very busy women wouldn't be able to reply to inquiries as quickly as you might like.

Thank you for the well wishes kind Sir.

Ella

[Discreet-Elite]

P.S. None of the ladies I book for have handles here. Although, it seems according to the rules, they are allowed to. The ladies of Discreet Elite really don't have time to do much else than take appointments and take care of there fully obligated civi life.

[kSoze]

Originally Posted by Whispers

The only practice I dislike is when an agency "handles" a ladies On Board Personna, PMs or emails WITHOUT CLEARLY IDENTIFYING WHO THEY ARE.

Bullshit, the only practice you dislike is anyone charging more than $150 per hour. Don't let him fool you Ella but, none-the-less, welcome to Austin and to your success. Glad to see you have MOD support which will help fend off all the bullies around here.

[sixxbach]

KSoze,

You sure post from a female POV. Sounds like a bitch in more ways than one lol

sixx

[kSoze]

Originally Posted by sixxbach

You sure post from a female POV. Sounds like a bitch in more ways than one lol

DUH! I'm aint trying to win points with the bros. The girls are why I'm here, it's what makes this board fun.. Am I wrong? Afraid to ask but, why are you here?

[Rand Al'Thor]

Originally Posted by kSoze

Are these assumptions or do you have actual facts? As you claim to do before talking shit? Just because the homies will NOT allow you to take referrals does not mean everyone else has to be so naive and if you are as busy as you claim then what is the issue? Independent (that's what the word means) You are free (well most) to make your own rules. You are your own BOSS!

Very ungentlemanly of you to claim someone to be talking shit to begin with. Do you have evidence that "homies" (whoever they are) do or do not allow her to do anything or have that kind of power over anyone? Is this an ASSUMPTION on your part?

Who convinced you that you are worth any less than the Agency girls and why do you believe it?
You are 100% independent RIGHT? You DO get to make your own rules and run your business how you see fit RIGHT?

What about anything said here says she thinks less of herself than an agency girl? Another ASSUMPTION?

You have great reviews and are no doubt an Absolute beauty so why the low rates?

Just asking...hmmmm?

Oh, we're talking rates. Are you equating rate to a girl's worth on here? Are you telling someone to change their rates? That's mighty gentlemanly of you to tell her how she should run her business.

Originally Posted by kSoze

You conveniently skipped over this don't kid yourself darling, think before you type we all know better than that.

Show your independence by:

1. NOT accepting less than you deserve and or are worth.

Evidence that she does not already accept what she wants and is worth. Otherwise, this is an ASSUMPTION.

2. NOT letting others tell you how to run your business.

Evidence that she lets others tell her how to run her business. Otherwise, ASSUMPTION.

3. NOT letting others tell what you can and can NOT do.

Evidence that she lets others tell her what she can and cannot to. Otherwise, ASSUMPTION.

4. NOT letting others think for you and ask you to support things you do NOT believe in.

Evidence that she does not think for herself, supports what others ask her to support, and that she has not come to the conclusions she has on her own. Otherwise, ASSUMPTION.

Originally Posted by kSoze

If you are fucking for free then why do you care so much about what providers that fuck for money are doing.

Where does it say she's fucking for free? You mentioned earlier in this thread that she has a rate. So this is outright false by your own admission.

Because obviously you ARE kidding yourself.
Yet you start an assumption thread...one that was disproved by Space and thank GOD cause had it been anyone else your ignorant responses would have continued and probably encouraged your homies to add their own ignorant responses as well.

The original post stated an opinion and asked some questions. The opinion differed from what the board guidelines have outlined, as Space pointed out, and may differ from others' opinions. Yet, you came in asserting that she is "talking shit" and making assumptions while you have made far more assumptions than anyone else in this thread.

As I've already told you, I'll be calling you and your homies out on assumptions and ignorant responses so choose your words wisely.

You may want to take your own advice, and since you seem to have given those who oppose your point of view a nickname, let's call you and your buddies... roidies, shall we?

Originally Posted by kSoze

Its nice when adults can discuss things in an intellectual way. People make arguments, information is shared, everyone learns something.

Something you might learn to do, especially if you're going to proclaim to everyone how much of a gentleman you are.

Originally Posted by kSoze

A lot of things the OP says is Absolutely boring, I agree.

You're just showing that you're more about which team you belong on and how much you can attack the other team than having an intelligent discussion or being a nice guy at this point.

Just yelling and screaming "I'm a gentleman and I TIP!!!!" doesn't make you one. So far, all you've shown me is that you like to stir things up, call people out on things you're just as (or more) guilty of, and like to try to put others down by trying to convince everyone that you can afford things others cannot. This just makes you a pompous, hypocritical ass in my humble opinion.

And yeah, I called you out on your assumptions and said you're a hypocrite, not nice of me. However, I'm not trying to convince everyone that I'm a "gentleman".

[sixxbach]

Originally Posted by kSoze

DUH! I'm aint trying to win points with the bros. The girls are why I'm here, it's what makes this board fun.. Am I wrong? Afraid to ask but, why are you here?

Who said I was trying to win points with the bros? I have have pissed off plenty of bros... believe that. When I made my "debut" this was ASPD and I was an outsider. I am proud to say that I was a part of the change in hobby Austin.

You can be here for the ladies and not sound like one. Hmmmmmmmm

Ah, you should correct yourself, you are here for the ladies who agree with you. You seem to not care too much for Absolutely....

sixx

[kSoze]

Originally Posted by sixxbach

When I made my "debut" this was ASPD and I was an outsider. I am proud to say that I was a part of the change in hobby Austin.

LOL! what changes?

Originally Posted by sixxbach

Ah, you should correct yourself, you are here for the ladies who agree with you. You seem to not care too much for Absolutely...

Groupies at not my thing plus just because she is a girl does not mean she is exempt from being called out for ignorant responses and assumptions.

[Codybeast]

I've got to say that with the exception of one incident with Marco back in the ASPD days when he worked for Lex even before he started Mint I've had all good experiences with agencies.

They serve their purpose in a pinch. For example Absolutely you can Only be booked through P411.
I'm a spontaneous monger and do not have P411.
Also I never book days in advance. If I wanted a session with a petite cute provider in one hour late at night without jumping through hoops all I have to do is call a reputable agency such as Cute a Button with Neko and I'm covered without a hitch. If one relies on independents for that they'll usually have to settle for the providers who are less likely to float their boat.

My only concern with agencies is what happened with Executive out of SA. They tend to be far more prone to raids. A lot of mongers were shitting bricks in the aftermath of that mess.

I think both independents and Agencies keep client info but nobody is going after independents as it's not newsworthy.

[kSoze]

Originally Posted by Codybeast

I think both independents and Agencies keep client info but nobody is going after independents as it's not newsworthy.

What info are they keeping?

[Poet Laureate]

A booking agent is not a pimp in my mind, in the same way as a driver is not a pimp. They're business partners with the provider, but they don't affect a provider's status as independent, at least not to my way of thinking.

[Jay Walker]

This is a crazy ass thread. My takeaways (really just unfounded opinions) are:

- Absolutely doesn't like other escorts, especially if they use booking agencies. She may or my not have "homies", but a very pale blond girl who sports corn rows makes one wonder. Just saying.

-KSoze - this cat has been around for more than the 20 days that his "new profile" suggests. Articulate, but seems to me to be a representative.

- Space - clearly biased in favor of Ella and her services / girls. Any time I question his favoritism, I get points.

- Rand Al'Thor - spends considerable time, effort and text white knighting Absolutely. Perhaps I'd make such a transparent supporting post if I were hitting it for free but... Is he hitting it for free?

- Discreet-Elite - Is this the same Ella that has ben hooking for years? Now seeking to continue earning money from the sex trade without fucking anyone? Either way, she already had a decent start. She seems articulate, and to already have a moderator in her pocket. However, the rates are too high for her talent, or her talent is too low for her rates.

These are just my opinions / observations.
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[Spacemtn]

Originally Posted by Jay Walker

This is a crazy ass thread. My takeaways (really just unfounded opinions) are:

- Absolutely doesn't like other escorts, especially if they use booking agencies. She may or my not have "homies", but a very pale blond girl who sports corn rows makes one wonder. Just saying.

-KSoze - this cat has been around for more than the 20 days that his "new profile" suggests. Articulate, but seems to me to be a representative.

- Space - clearly biased in favor of Ella and her services / girls. Any time I question his favoritism, I get points.
Well, Jay, there is always a first time for everything. It is a bit hard to be biased as I have never experienced her, her services/ girls. In fact, I have never met her FTF to my knowledge. I did help her get the necessary permissions here on ECCIE........Oh, that's right, that's what the Mods do here!! Help folks to make use of our site!! She had some particular questions and we exchanged correspondence(s) through various forms while I answered her questions. Oh, and no points!!!

- Rand Al'Thor - spends considerable time, effort and text white knighting Absolutely. Perhaps I'd make such a transparent supporting post if I were hitting it for free but... Is he hitting it for free?

- Discreet-Elite - Is this the same Ella that has ben hooking for years? Now seeking to continue earning money from the sex trade without fucking anyone? Either way, she already had a decent start. She seems articulate, and to already have a moderator in her pocket. However, the rates are too high for her talent, or her talent is too low for her rates.
I do not think that there is anyone here that has a Mod "in their pocket". We are here to assist members (female and male) and do so frequently.In fact, as a Mod, I have assisted many members (with ECCIE related requests and issues) that have posted in this thread including the OP (Absolutely), so I guess that means I am in a lot of peoples pockets........and these are some broke ass folks!!! Just Kidding!!!
I am really curious what exactly one gains by having a Mod "in their pocket"????????

These are just my opinions / observations.
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Oh BTW....still no points for you Jay!! hell, not even a measly old warning. Wait.....if I don't point you, does it mean I am in your pocket?????? Fucking Hilarious!!!! You crack me up!!!!

Spacemtn
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