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05-30-2012, 06:46 AM
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#16
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Join Date: Sep 9, 2010
Location: Archer City
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Most guys expect to get the room number 5 minutes ahead of time and be in the room at the appointed time. He probably had his secret play time precisely planned out that he had to be out of there by 10:30 in order to not arouse SO suspicion.
When 9:30 rolled around, he realized the only way he could be out of there by 10:30 was to cut the appointment short. I don't know what the girl's rate is, but his big head probably told his little head, "We can't afford that big of a hit in the bank account without a full hour of play time. We can leave the money where it is and schedule something another time."
Providers and handlers should always assume the customer is operating in a very narrow time window, and do everything in their power to make sure he is face-to-face with his lady of choice at the exact appointed time.
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05-30-2012, 07:05 AM
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#17
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Join Date: Dec 31, 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,870
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This is why I dont do incalls, been bruned too many times.
Drive across town, get there a little early, call at the apointed
time, and then nothing but slience. I turn around and leave, I
refuse to sit in a parking lot waiting for someone to pick up the
phone..
They know were coming, why cant they answer the phone?
How would you feel if you had an outcall scheduled, went
to the persons house or hotel, and nobody answered the door
and you couldnt reach them on the phone?
Rocker
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05-30-2012, 07:48 AM
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#18
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Countdown
Join Date: Apr 25, 2011
Location: Uranus
Posts: 3,262
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I usually wait no more than 5 minutes.
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05-30-2012, 07:52 AM
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Personally I like to be at my incall an hour before my appointment so that I can take my time getting ready. I like to be ready 20mins before appointment time...for that exact reason. If they show up early, great I am ready to rock and roll.
But also at the same time there are ladies that book for 1pm and 1pm is when they will see you. If you text 15mins early "I'm here", then normally even if you give a response back...getting ready see you at 1pm. Most guys are ok with that.
But this was obviously a third party hiccup and was not the gents fault or the lady he was set to see. Like most have stated already, if he would have gotten some kind of response he'd probably been ok. But life is life and accidents happen. All that can be done is to say sorry and maybe work something out to keep a returning client.
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05-30-2012, 08:09 AM
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Join Date: Dec 22, 2009
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 136
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My take-away from your post is that you are spending a lot of energy attempting to shift the blame to the hobbyist. If it's your job to set up the appointments and ensure all things go smoothly then that obviously did not happen. You seem to imply the hobbyist was at fault for arriving early. Essentially he did everything right and I am sure he was frustrated after sending texts and receiving no response. I can empathize with him.
The part I am concerned with is the attempt to establish an acceptable period of time the hobbyist should wait after the agreed-upon time has come and gone. In my opinion he is not obligated to wait more than a minute, essentially the next tick of the dash clock. In reality I assume most hobbyists may choose to wait longer at their own discretion. I would probably wait another few minutes as well, but not if, by previous communication, I was told that the apartment number would be provided prior to the appointment time. That's poor TCB in my opinion.
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05-30-2012, 11:12 AM
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Join Date: Jan 5, 2010
Location: Austin, Texas
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His mind was focused on the appointment happening at exactly 9:30; hence the reason for arriving early to avoid any missteps.
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had just spoke to him prior to apt, claims he is still there at 9:30, send room number at 9:31... and he says he is gone? I mean i understand leaving after 5-10m. But ONE minute?? ONE?
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Actually, he left after waiting 16 minutes, at which time he contacted you multiple times to get room number. I don't think he should have gotten nasty with you because of a simple mistake, but I wouldn't chalk it up to nc/ns on his part. Maybe he'll chime in...
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05-30-2012, 11:28 AM
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User ID: 83684
Join Date: May 23, 2011
Location: Austin
Posts: 615
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Not trying to shift any blame honey, like i clearly said i made the mistake of leaving the phone in the other room. My point is that we had spoke the day he set apt, the next day AND the day of appointment. I texted him at 9pm. The apt was at 9:30. I re confirmed at 9:00 assuring everything was set. I then rush to go handle bed time business. Then realize i left my phone in other room, go get it and send the room #. Then after i sent the room # i sent an apology and an explanation... i was never given a chance to say hey take 20 off. After the way he spoke to me, i realized maybe something was indeed up. So not @ all putting the blame on him, i thought my posts showed that. I made the mistake of leaving phone in the other room, but i think getting the room number 1m past apt time is reasonable. Again i think both parties need to be understanding, guys are late all the time, i tell them it is ok. His last text came in right when i got to my phone, stating he was still there but going to leave if he did not hear from me soon. I replied right that second giving the room #. I would never cancel on someone for arriving 1m late. Thats just silly to me, especially if i had been in correspondence with him for the past few days, had just talked to him a few minutes ago AND he was a regular! Which was the case here.
Someone mentioned how would i feel if i arrived at an outcall and got no answer... thats happened many times, due to the guy being in the shower, or cleaning up... and i wait. I don't expect him to respond 15m prior to the apt, I'm sure he is handling his business. Now when it is 5-10m AFTER the apt time and he is not answering, thats when i start worrying. AGAIN, not so much if i have seen him many times. I, as a provider... would wait at least 15m for a guy... whether incall or out. If no reply in 15m I'm gone. If he replies 5m after apt time and says he needs more time, no problem. If he replies 1m after apt time and says come in... GREAT!
BTW i am not exaggerating about the 1minute. It was literally sent at 9:30 and received at 9:31!
My regular clients know this is not the norm, they are normally at the door at exact apt time... him being a former regular i would of assumed he would be more understanding... due to the situation in which i explained. Due to the fact we had spoke and spoke, just a few minutes earlier. The things he said hurt, in this business when you build sort of a little friendship with someone, and they can be so cold and mean over something like getting the room number 1 minute late. I don't consider the texts to be ignored, we had just talked a few minutes earlier... yes i missed a couple texts but i did not ignore him. Responded with a sincere apology, explanation and room#.
SO AGAIN in no way shape or form blaming him, which is why i did not post his handle. I just wanted to get others opinions on this situation. Again never in all my years have i dealt with anything like this... it is new to me. Wanted to know if any other ladies had dealt with this. Wanted to know if any guys would leave after one minute... if the girl was a regular... and you had spoken to her a few min before apt as well as the day before.
Just one final note... ladies and gents this really goes both ways... try to be more understanding. Life does happen, people do step away from their phones. Don't jump to conclusions, give them a chance before verbally beating them into the ground or assuming they are a bad guy. Things will always run a lot smoother and happier with a little understanding. I believe things always work out in the long run.
Thank yall for expressing all your opinion's and thoughts. Its good to have a thread without fighting. AGAIN i am in no way blaming this guy, which is why i did not post his handle or any info on him. Many girls i spoke to said this was considered a last minute cancel and that i should post his info, but i don't agree. I don't think it was right, i believe myself and him could of handled the situation better. I should of had my phone on my hip. But this is a situation i have never in my life dealt with... so i felt like sharing it and get others opinions. So thanks again. It's appreciated! One can always better their self and improve their way of doing things!
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05-30-2012, 11:35 AM
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Usually On the road again
Join Date: Dec 18, 2009
Location: On the Move
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I have picked up on somewhat of a common thread here which begs me to ask of the ladies:
If our appointment is scheduled for 10 am and you have given me general directions to your incall (apartment or hotel room), why do I not have the apartment number or hotel room number with enough advance notice to get to your door at the appointed time? I show you the courtesy of leaving your incall by the end of our scheduled time. So now I guess that (with some providers) we are getting the psychologist hour which is 45 or 50 minutes.
I realize that there are probably as many hobbyists as there are providers who show no concern for the others time, but I would really hope for a response from some of the ladies...
IJS,
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05-30-2012, 11:40 AM
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Join Date: Apr 15, 2010
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 321
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Here's a situation I had recently with a provider. Had an appointment scheduled. Texted 15 min before appointment. Then right at appointment 12:30pm to let her know that I was waiting. Provider texted me 10 min after appointment to ask if we were still on because she hadn't heard from me. I said that I had been texting her. She asked if we could move it to 1pm. I said sure I guess I will drive around for 20 min. I take off and She texts says if you are ready then come now. I make a turn around and get their at 12:45. Text and no answer. I text one more time at 12:55 no answer. Then I text at 1:05 and let her know that it 5 min passed the second appointment we had set and I'm leaving. She texts 20 min later and says OMG, I just got all the google voice texts at one time. I thought you Nc/Ns'd me.
I gave her the benefit of the doubt that maybe google voice was to blame. But as you can see this was a huge waste of time for me.
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05-30-2012, 11:58 AM
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#25
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Join Date: Jan 4, 2010
Location: Central Austin
Posts: 5,493
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then there is the "IT WASN'T MY FAULT" statement, and then you said: " like i clearly said i made the mistake of leaving the phone in the other room."
I am trying to figure out, "well did you screw up or not"? You spend a lot of time defending your error, place all the blame on the hobbyist, but you take no "blame" for your "mistake", you only offer an excuse why you made a "mistake". When I go to a ladies incall, prior to arriving I know where I'm going or I don't go.
Personally, the nonsense about "call me when you get there" and then you don't answer his call, certainly would give some folks pause, not wanting to hang around in an open area, where "he" thinks folks may be attracted to his presence and think it's strange. It's not his fault if he is used to running on a strict schedule. You admit you left your phone in another room... but.. aren't YOU supposed to be the professional? Professionals take care of business, you could have done a number of things and avoided this mixup. Better time management with your young one is also an option.. but shirking your responsibility to your customer is not. You asked a question, and yet every answer that you don't like, you try to counter with another tack trying to justify you made a "mistake", but he was "wrong".// Interesting.
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05-30-2012, 12:08 PM
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Hope I haven't bored you!
Join Date: Apr 30, 2009
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...... aren't YOU supposed to be the professional? Professionals take care of business, you could have done a number of things and avoided this mixup. Better time management with your young one is also an option.. but shirking your responsibility to your customer is not. You asked a question, and yet every answer that you don't like, you try to counter with another tack trying to justify you made a "mistake", but he was "wrong".// Interesting.
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The wisest thing posted in this thread.
Forget all the Indy responses or guys talking about dealing with indies in this thread.
This is an Agency.
NONE of the typical issues apply like getting ready, being in a shower etc....
The OP has a JOB here to perform and was dealing with personal issues instead of responsibilities to her TWO clients here... the provider AND the guy..... basically while on the clock.
In THIS SCENARIO..... it really is an unforgivable act as she let down the girl being scheduled for as well as the client.....
Besides... Hasn't EVERY woman's Brassiere been modified into a Cell Phone Carrying Device? Why wasn't the phone nestled in with her boob where it is on every other woman these days?
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05-30-2012, 12:14 PM
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Join Date: Jan 4, 2010
Location: Central Austin
Posts: 5,493
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"....Besides... Hasn't EVERY woman's Brassiere been modified into a Cell Phone Carrying Device? Why wasn't the phone nestled in with her boob where it is on every other woman these days?..."
Whispers, that's a product we should design and market. I don't know the last time I saw a bra with just titties in it.. change, keys, phone, lord know what's stored there!!
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05-30-2012, 01:42 PM
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Join Date: Dec 6, 2010
Location: Georgetown, Texas
Posts: 175
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I would give the benefit of 10 minutes, several texts and calls. I have to drive 40 miles to get into N Austin so I'm investing not only money but time to see a provider. And I have been stood up 3 times by (BP) an once here by someone who had fallen asleep (not acceptable) but apologized several times an attempted to make an adjustment. I have been in sales for sometime and being late just doesn't cut it in that profession but it seems like you've learned a good lesson. When the guy really went off on you sounds like he's a "jerk" he could have made his point in a respectful manner and it may have been more effective.
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05-30-2012, 02:07 PM
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Join Date: Sep 9, 2010
Location: Archer City
Posts: 2,830
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BTW i am not exaggerating about the 1minute. It was literally sent at 9:30 and received at 9:31!
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He replied at 9:31? If not how were you sure he got it at 9:31?
Another thing that hasn't been brought up is it's not cool to hang around a hotel parking lot sitting in your car too long. Especially if other providers use the same hotel. It can attract unwanted attention. Preferably the guy should drive up, get out of his car, and get the room number while he's walking from his car to the front entrance. Looks just like a friend visiting a friend.
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05-30-2012, 02:49 PM
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Join Date: Jan 15, 2010
Location: Austin
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IMO 15 minutes early is just on time. I would have gave it 5 extra minutes then left. I hate to wait on a response. I would have been a little pissed sitting waiting on some sort of response. Within 15 minutes of a scheduled visit I would be expecting some sort of conformation.
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Hits the nail on the had IMHO! I think it was the 15 minute wait without any response that is the issue.
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