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05-10-2012, 06:04 AM
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Looking through a peep hole is not going to stop him from using the gun in his pants on you. We will look and let him in anyway, and just because he has passed verification doesnt necessarily mean he is safe that day. Random acts of violance are very prevelant in this community, and to be honest with you we never know when the clean guy next door has decided this trashy bitch is gonna get what she deserves. Its a shame that things are like that but its true and we are easy targets. I like to leave the door open, less noise in hallway, plus I dont have to stand right next to door and let anyone in hallway see me in whatever I may be wearing. As for not knowing safety...thats why I like incall, I control the room and whats in it and where its at.
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05-10-2012, 10:15 AM
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....Guys, do you find it a bit odd for a provider to purposefully allow you to enter the room without knocking or having her open the door?
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No, not at all. I'm already pre-screened and she's expecting me, so I don't find it odd at all. Plus, depending on how the door opens to the room, I've been greeted by ladies wearing only a towel, corset, and my favorite...their birthday suit! If the door is ajar, they can be more in the center of the room, or around the corner...and less likely to be seen by someone who happens to be walking by in the hallway
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I've noticed that lately, more and more providers are just giving me their room number and saying the door will be ajar and for me to come on in. I will still knock before entering as a courtesy.
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As soon as I acquire the room # (usually from call #2), I'll knock as well as a common courtesy.
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05-10-2012, 03:23 PM
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I never leave the door ajar.
But, being punctual, I go check the door from the time to time around the time, or do last minute touch ups by the mirror by the door so can typically hear someone walking up.
Double check the security peephole and voila! open sesame!
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05-10-2012, 08:04 PM
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I am surprised at how many posters are against leaving the door ajar. In my experience it happens enough so that it isn't rare. But let me share one story about how it an ajar door was helpful.
I have an afternoon appointment to see a provider at a two star motel that has exterior doors. When I get to the motel I see a cop parked near the front office. When I call my rent-a-lady I tell her about LE and she says her room is close to the office. She also says that she will leave the door ajar and that I should simply walk in looking like I own the place.
I did my bit by adding a couple of props: a raincoat tossed over my shoulder and a small briefcase. I looked like a business man returning to his room after a long day of sales calls. But when I got to the door, I simply gave it a push and walked in like I owned the place. The sex was a little better that day.
Knocking on doors is a normal thing in hotels, but when six or seven guys do it, it can be suspicious looking. Therefore anything that speeds up the process is blessing.
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05-10-2012, 08:10 PM
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I usually tell fellas not to knock at all. Hotel peepholes have a wide span and I can see him approach the door and I open it without him having to knock. I am also standing behind the door so if anyone else walked by at the same time their not going to see me. I would never greet someone standing in the door frame at an outcall or incall. The more discreet the better.
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05-10-2012, 08:30 PM
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I only do that if its someone I know. Regardless I am at the door ready to open with my hand on the door handle to open asap. I watch my client pull in, get out of his car, make sure he isn't calling or texting anyone, and watch for more cars entering at the same time or a few seconds after him.
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05-11-2012, 10:50 PM
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I once had a lady who had me knock on the door next to her room. She intentionally gave me the wrong room number which no one responded to. I saw a lady poke her head out of the other door but panicked. She had the nerve to ask me who I was looking for which I found very strange. I hauled ass away from the location and called her again. Only to go to the room she was really in this time. That was hella annoying and one of my initial reason for doing only outcalls.
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05-12-2012, 09:56 AM
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I would never leave the door ajar or unlocked in a public location.... But on one occasion I had a special request from a regular client and left the door to my private incall location unlocked for him.
You see I was blindfolded, strapped to the bed wearing only garter,thigh highs, and heels!!! So I was unable to answer the door
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05-12-2012, 11:39 AM
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First and foremost, I would HOPE a lady has screened her date prior to giving him her apt/hotel incall location/room #.
And if she has done proper screening and gave her room # to said date and thus left the door ajar for him to enter. Then there's no harm in that at all and quite OKAY for her to do so.
WHY? you ask??
DISCRETION. A man standing outside of a hotel or apt. door, knocking is not discreet at all. Rather it draws far TOO much attention. ESP, when a man approaches said door and is LOUD as heck as he announces his hello's at the door. For crying out loud. Hush. Speak softly until your in the room/apt and the door is closed and then step away from the door before making your vocal pleasantries.
And IF she left her door ajar, then she's surely expecting her date and will be well aware if someone else were to walk in.
FYI, it's not odd at all for men to enter said room/apt w.o knocking when they were instructed by their female date to do so.
Men who find it odd are men who don't understand the true meaning of discretion and how things are done in this adult lifestyle. And those tend to be men who ignore a ladies request.
This is not the RW. Things here in adult fantasyland will be a bit different and for good reason. Discretion for all parties.
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Ladies, do you leave the door ajar after giving the client the room number in order to allow himself in?
Guys, do you find it a bit odd for a provider to purposefully allow you to enter the room without knocking or having her open the door? I'm just curious as to why providers are doing this. I would think that for safety reasons, one would want the door to be closed and locked. That way the lady can look through the peep whole before allowing a stranger to come in. I can understand on a second and subsequent visits, but for a first time, I find it a bit dangerous.
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05-12-2012, 12:13 PM
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DISCRETION. A man standing outside of a hotel or apt. door, knocking is not discreet at all. Rather it draws far TOO much attention. ESP, when a man approaches said door and is LOUD as heck as he announces his hello's at the door. For crying out loud. Hush. Speak softly until your in the room/apt and the door is closed and then step away from the door before making your vocal pleasantries.
And IF she left her door ajar, then she's surely expecting her date and will be well aware if someone else were to walk in.
FYI, it's not odd at all for men to enter said room/apt w.o knocking when they were instructed by their female date to do so.
Men who find it odd are men who don't understand the true meaning of discretion and how things are done in this adult lifestyle. And those tend to be men who ignore a ladies request.
This is not the RW. Things here in adult fantasyland will be a bit different and for good reason. Discretion for all parties.
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I agree with you 100% about the need for discretion, but I have some issues with the points you are trying to make. First, knocking at a door is not indiscreet. It does not draw unwanted attention. It is normal activity. I think some here are a bit paranoid when it comes to knocking on doors in a hotel environment. It is common courtesy. When I'm on business and have to go to a colleagues room even when he or she is expecting me, I knock. When I'm with my family and I step out of the room even with a key, upon returning I knock and let them know it is me coming back. Personally, I'd find it suspicious to see someone in the hall duck into a room without knocking or without using a key card to get in. To me, that would draw much more attention than someone doing what is the normal act when confronted with a closed/locked door. That would be to knock.
Second, who yells, or is loud, or is boisterous when approaching and knocking on a door. I've never seen that unless it is a group of guys heading back in after a night on the town. Maybe it is just me, but when I go see a lady at her incall hotel, I act like I belong there. That means being quiet, not drawing attention to myself, but still smiling and making common courtesy nods or greetings to other guests or hotel staff. I act is if I'm on a business trip and act natural.
Third, if she leaves the door ajar, yes anyone can walk in. That's the point-- anyone can walk in. Let's say the lady is staying on the 4th floor of a hotel. Her date calls her and says he has arrived. What does he mean by arrived. He's 2 minutes from pulling into the hotel? He's just getting out of the car? He's in the lobby? He's on the elevator? You don't know what he means by "just arrived". He could be 5 minutes from walking in your door that is left ajar. In those 5 minutes, housekeeping could come by, someone from the staff could come by and be curious as to why the door is ajar, etc, etc, etc. You never know. I remember one time while on vacation, we left the "do not disturb" sign on the door for the first 2 days we were there. We didn't need any service as we re-used our towels and washclothes. On the 3rd day, there was a note under our door when we got back for the evening. That note said that by hotel policy, they had to do a welfare check on us. You just don't know what the staff may do if you do something out of the ordinary.
Fourth, you are overgeneralizing when you say men who ignore a ladies request are being indiscreet. I value discretion and confidentiality above all else in the hobby. My first rule is to always be a gentleman.
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05-12-2012, 02:00 PM
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Join Date: Mar 12, 2012
Location: Washington DC Area
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Cpalmson and Wicked MILF both makes good points (as did others) - discretion and safety (for both) are of upmost importance. I usually take my cues from the ladies as how to approach their incall location(s). I had one lady tell me to use a card (license, credit card, etc.) to simulate opening the door; some stated to knock (softly); others keep the door slightly ajar; some look through the peep hole and open the door when I stood in front of it, the door opened. Some things never to do - knock loudly at a door; talk loudly while at the door or the lobby...Cumalot makes a good point too - act like you know what you are doing and folks won't look suspiciously at you.
The things to remember when hobbying is (1) safety - ensured by hobbyists doing our research and the ladies by screening; (2) keeping the lady informed by letting her know where you are - parking lot, lobby, etc.; (3) following specific instructions from the ladies, where to park, which stairs to use, etc.
If all else fails, trust your instincts. Stay safe and have fun!
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