What happened to America???

[Green_Mountain]

Originally Posted by jayzee43

Remind them what the Bible says too, while you're at it.

MAGA is anti-American to their very core. They're just too stupid to realize that. What they've unleashed on this country will take decades to recover from, if it's possible at all.

No substance. No original thoughts.

General insults.

Bring nothing to the table as far as debate. Answered zero of my questions above bc you can’t. You can’t objectively counter.

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by lustylad

FTFY, jayzee.

Sealing the border was the easy part. Deporting the 12 million unvetted illegals who poured in on Senile Joe's watch will take time.

You have your number wrong again. Counting those double and triple encounters as separate people. At least you're consistent

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

You have your number wrong again. Counting those double and triple encounters as separate people. At least you're consistent

Lol... I tried many times to get you to agree on what methodology/sources we should use to estimate the most accurate number. At every turn, you haughtily rebuffed me with condescending babble about following some bread crumbs. The only thing you follow is the fake it til you make it strategy.

I've seen higher estimates and I've seen lower ones. Since you can't counter with your own number and show it was derived from something more credible than bread crumbs, I'll stick with the 12 million.

[Jacuzzme]

Getting millions (I can assume that figure is generic enough for HD, who was apparently at the border with one of those clicky things) of people who shouldn’t be in the country, and don’t want to leave, isn’t going to be pretty. Frankly, it’s beyond me why every citizen isn’t on board with the simple premise that people who came in illegally should be thrown back out and made to come in the right way, especially since Trump was able to stop the bleeding just days after being inaugurated. It’s like, WTAF is wrong with you people? Why do you hate your own country so much?

[Green_Mountain]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Getting millions (I can assume that figure is generic enough for HD, who was apparently at the border with one of those clicky things) of people who shouldn’t be in the country, and don’t want to leave, isn’t going to be pretty. Frankly, it’s beyond me why every citizen isn’t on board with the simple premise that people who came in illegally should be thrown back out and made to come in the right way, especially since Trump was able to stop the bleeding just days after being inaugurated. It’s like, WTAF is wrong with you people? Why do you hate your own country so much?

Well said.

They were on board 10 years ago that illegals should be removed and then it suddenly changed. Will the mystery ever be solved.

[oldman2525]

Originally Posted by Knute

I don't follow your train of thought at all. I've been a registered Republican since the 1970s and think Trump is the worst thing that has happened to this country since the Civil War. This country needed to get immigration under control, but the implementation in the past year has been atrocious. Let me remind you what it says on the Statue of Liberty:

maybe this would help...........

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/c41r1B4rbns

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Lol... I tried many times to get you to agree on what methodology/sources we should use to estimate the most accurate number. At every turn, you haughtily rebuffed me with condescending babble about following some bread crumbs. The only thing you follow is the fake it til you make it strategy.

I've seen higher estimates and I've seen lower ones. Since you can't counter with your own number and show it was derived from something more credible than bread crumbs, I'll stick with the 12 million.

That convo was about the total undocumented pop, which was about 15 million and crossed many administrations.

As long as you know you're on the ridiculous upper fringe and double counting folks, the rest of us know the score

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Why do you hate your own country so much?

I don't. Why do you?

[Green_Mountain]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

That convo was about the total undocumented pop, which was about 15 million and crossed many administrations.

As long as you know you're on the ridiculous upper fringe and double counting folks, the rest of us know the score

Your number must be in the super secret files in fantasy land too.

You certainly won’t post your number here.

[Jacuzzme]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

I don't. Why do you?

Clearly that’s untrue.

[Jacuzzme]

Originally Posted by oldman2525

maybe this would help...........

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/c41r1B4rbns

And for those who think we’re saving the world’s most downtrodden.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8E5y8KNlWl8

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Clearly that’s untrue.

Seems spot on, J

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

As long as you know you're on the ridiculous upper fringe and double counting folks, the rest of us know the score.

Nope.

At one point, you even said you thought my 12 million number was correct.

Oh wait - it was "likely 11.9 million", not 12 million.

Umm... ok.

Originally Posted by HDGristle

And the number you're looking for is likely 11.9 million. Total.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by oldman2525

maybe this would help.....

Gotta love Uncle Milty!

He had a brilliant knack for explaining complicated topics in simple, easily understandable terms.

(Which is why he drove libs crazy. They prefer to blow smoke, complicate issues, obfuscate and sow confusion.)

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by lustylad

At one point, you even said you thought my 12 million number was correct.

Not in that context. And context matters