New FBI Memos Drop Bombshell About the Mar-a-Lago Ransacking

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by pxmcc

^^the facts, ma'am, not fantasy:

It is illegal under U.S. federal law to solicit, accept, or receive "anything of value" from a foreign national or government in connection with a U.S. election. This prohibition applies to federal, state, and local elections.

Key Legal Provisions
Federal Election Campaign Act (FECA): This act broadly prohibits foreign nationals from making any contribution or donation of money or anything of value, or any expenditure, in connection with any U.S. election.

Prohibition on Solicitation and Acceptance: It is also unlawful for any person (including candidates and campaign staff) to knowingly solicit, accept, or receive such assistance from a foreign source.

"Anything of Value": This term is interpreted broadly and includes both tangible and intangible items. The provision of uncompensated services, opposition research, or other campaign-related information for political advantage can be considered a "thing of value," though the precise legal interpretation in specific scenarios has been a subject of debate and varying FEC opinions.

Criminal Penalties: Knowingly and willfully engaging in these prohibited activities can lead to civil penalties enforced by the Federal Election Commission (FEC) or criminal prosecution by the Department of Justice (DOJ), which can result in significant fines and imprisonment.

Campaign Responsibilities
Any political campaign that receives an offer of a prohibited donation or assistance from a foreign source is expected to report that offer to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI).

In short, engaging with a foreign government to obtain help for a U.S. election is a serious violation of federal law designed to protect the integrity of the American democratic process from outside interference.

just admit Trump broke the law when he asked for and received Russia's help in the 2016 election and be done with it. you will feel much better. continuing to argue an untenable position can only lead to unnecessary stress and excessive cortisol levels, which are bad for your health..

Congrats. you just proved Clinton's campaign colluded with a foreign national, Steele to produce false intel about Trump and use it to spy on Trump's campaign and promote your beloved false narrative Trump directly colluded with Russia in 2016.


brilliant!

[bb1961]

Originally Posted by pxmcc

^^the facts, ma'am, not fantasy:

It is illegal under U.S. federal law to solicit, accept, or receive "anything of value" from a foreign national or government in connection with a U.S. election. This prohibition applies to federal, state, and local elections.

Key Legal Provisions
Federal Election Campaign Act (FECA): This act broadly prohibits foreign nationals from making any contribution or donation of money or anything of value, or any expenditure, in connection with any U.S. election.

Prohibition on Solicitation and Acceptance: It is also unlawful for any person (including candidates and campaign staff) to knowingly solicit, accept, or receive such assistance from a foreign source.

"Anything of Value": This term is interpreted broadly and includes both tangible and intangible items. The provision of uncompensated services, opposition research, or other campaign-related information for political advantage can be considered a "thing of value," though the precise legal interpretation in specific scenarios has been a subject of debate and varying FEC opinions.

Criminal Penalties: Knowingly and willfully engaging in these prohibited activities can lead to civil penalties enforced by the Federal Election Commission (FEC) or criminal prosecution by the Department of Justice (DOJ), which can result in significant fines and imprisonment.

Campaign Responsibilities
Any political campaign that receives an offer of a prohibited donation or assistance from a foreign source is expected to report that offer to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI).

In short, engaging with a foreign government to obtain help for a U.S. election is a serious violation of federal law designed to protect the integrity of the American democratic process from outside interference.

just admit Trump broke the law when he asked for and received Russia's help in the 2016 election and be done with it. you will feel much better. continuing to argue an untenable position can only lead to unnecessary stress and excessive cortisol levels, which are bad for your health..

You know what they say about daydreaming speculations...shit in one hand and daydream speculate in the other and see which hand fills up first.

[texassapper]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Does anyone really believe this? I certainly don’t. It’s just more fodder to feed Trump’s delusions about the Russia, Russia, Russia deep state conspiracy theory.

What a giant load of nonsense.

So you don't believe the internal memos of the FBI?

May I ask why? If they are authenticated would that change your mind? Would you EVER believe that the Biden regime politicized the DOJ under ANY circumstances?

Is it possible for Democrats to make mistakes or do wrong?

If it is possible for Democrats to do wrong or break the law... can you not concede its possible they did so in the pursuit of someone you disagree with as well? Is it possible to violate the rights of someone you don't like?

[Yssup Rider]

I think the word “BOMBSHELL” is overused. This is Trump government tripe-agenda in “memo” form seized upon by desperate cult members in a lame effort to justify their support for this America.

And of course it’s possible for democrats to break the law. It’s also possible to be found guilty in court.

The Trump administration? LOL!

Especially like the use of Twitter as a prime source. Well done, sir.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by bb1961

You know what they say about daydreaming speculations...shit in one hand and daydream speculate in the other and see which hand fills up first.

Who says that?

[Mort Watt]

Originally Posted by pxmcc

pretty please with extra sugar on top, TWK..

what in the bejeezus is "confirmation basis"(!?!)..

are you trying to say "confirmation bias", which is actually a thing in the English language..

Originally Posted by texassapper

So you don't believe the internal memos of the FBI?...

Consider the "sources" weighing in at this point. Chuck Grassley and Town Hall. Not exactly paragons of objectivity. Or reality.

(they might even be subject to....dare I say it?...confirmation bias?)

It is difficult to determine context, so far. The major outlets and pundits have not really provided an analysis, and I would like to see them.

The fact that these memos exist by themselves is not necessarily damning. They could just be reflecting internal dissension and debate. Which would not be atypical. Not everyone in an organization as large as the FBI is going to agree on something as high-profile as this.

Let's see how this shakes out. Or...we could just go back to pure partisan bickering and expressions of hatred for "the other side." That always works.

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[yeahsurewhatev]

Judge Cannon's determination that this evidence does not undermine the finding of probable cause for the search warrant - https://storage.courtlistener.com/re...52.655.0_1.pdf

p.4 - "Even accepting those statements by the high-level FBI official, the Motion offers an insufficient basis to believe that inclusion in the affidavit of that official’s perspective (or of the dissenting views of other FBI agents as referenced generally in his testimony) would have altered the evidentiary calculus in support of probable cause for the alleged offenses. Nor did Defendant Trump meaningfully argue otherwise at the hearing. Further, insofar as the Motion characterizes the omitted information as a material misrepresentation in the 'request for sealing' section of the affidavit (rather than as an omission) [ECF No. 566 p. 6 (referencing ECF No. 566-2 ¶ 80)], the Court agrees with the Special Counsel that the sealing section does not undermine the probable cause set forth in the affidavit."

I find myself curious how these agents were disciplined/dismissed for challenging the DOJ. Or, were their disagreements taken under advisement as the normal operations of a functioning system, as Mort suggests?
Note, too, that what they advise is interviews. I'm not sure interviews with those intent on concealing information, or of those from whom information is being concealed (attorneys), would have proven particularly fruitful.

[Precious_b]

So, without looking at links or comments here, there were no documents at donny land?
There was no hint of any documents being held by donny?
There was no resistance offered when asked (repeatedly) to turn over documents to be properly stored?

Ok.

Live that fantasy life.

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by texassapper

So you don't believe the internal memos of the FBI?

May I ask why? If they are authenticated would that change your mind? Would you EVER believe that the Biden regime politicized the DOJ under ANY circumstances?

Is it possible for Democrats to make mistakes or do wrong?

If it is possible for Democrats to do wrong or break the law... can you not concede its possible they did so in the pursuit of someone you disagree with as well? Is it possible to violate the rights of someone you don't like?

Sure I do. I can believe that the FBI created internal documents that detail the existence and scope of the Trump document case.

I do believe that anyone can break the law.

But I would like to see proof of malfeasance before going off the deep end and assuming the DOJ colluded with the Biden administration to raid Mar-a-lago without probable cause to try and retrieve some kind of damning evidence of collusion against Trump in the 2016 election.

The entire idea that the government did anything wrong when Trump and his russian ties were investigated is complete bullshit.

The idea that Trump had a binder that had undeniable proof of this is complete bullshit.

This entire thread is complete bullshit.

It’s a giant conspiratorial rant without even a scintilla of evidence to back it up.

I’ll say again. What a giant load of nonsense.

[onlyAMPs4menow]

Rule #1 of dealing with leftists:

If a leftist accuses you of something, it's most likely because they are already doing it.

The left: "Hey, Trump is weaponizing the intelligence agencies!"

Barack slinks by in the background hoping he doesn't get caught.

Leftists hate freedom and love power.

[Mort Watt]

Originally Posted by Mort Watt

...

Or...we could just go back to pure partisan bickering and expressions of hatred for "the other side." That always works.

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Originally Posted by onlyAMPs4menow

Rule #1 of dealing with leftists:

If a leftist accuses you of something, it's most likely because they are already doing it.

The left: "Hey, Trump is weaponizing the intelligence agencies!"

Barack slinks by in the background hoping he doesn't get caught.

Leftists hate freedom and love power.

Right. All leftists. Hate freedom. Love power. Every damn one. We know because... you have told us this. Over and over.

Got any opinions about the actual topic?

BTW...."Barack" had nothing to do with this.
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[texassapper]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

The entire idea that the government did anything wrong when Trump and his russian ties were investigated is complete bullshit.

FBI Lawyer Criminally Charged For Lying To The FISA Court

Do you think his superiors at the FBI were unaware?

[Yssup Rider]

Gotta love "TechDirt"

It looks like you're reaching deep, buddy.

IT also looks like you're trying to change the subject. The snippet you found is dated 2020, two years before the BLOCKBUSTER in question.

It's bullshit and you know it. Hence, "TechDirt."

Gotta love it when Kash Patel begins a social media post with "It's True..."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH