Venezuelan spy chief tells that Venezuela has been trying to destroy the US for a long time.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by 69in2it69

MILLIONS...sounds like Dumpster math. The average death from all drug overdoses in the US peaked at a little over 100k/yr...

Wow! You're completely callous. Why would anyone try to minimize 100,000+ deaths a year? Maybe this will give you a better perspective:

Combine the number of US soldiers killed during our last four major wars - 1) Iraq 2) Afghanistan 3) Vietnam and 4) Korea. The combined total will still fall short of the number of your fellow Americans who died from drug overdoses in the single year of 2023.

Originally Posted by 69in2it69

And when's the last time you made an over 1000 mile trip via outboard powered boat? Not to mention, the boat in question wasn't even trying to get to the US. But facts are bothersome...

Wow again. When's the last time you saw a "fishing boat" powered by four 600-hp outboard motors? Do you think we ought to wait until the boats are in US waters before we stop them or blow them up? If the drugs stay in the Caribbean or get smuggled on to Europe and kill people there, are the lives lost of no concern to you?

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Our country has been dealing with <POISON> addiction since the mass use of morphine during the civil war. We had a massive war on <POISON> starting with Reagan. Going to war over this issue is an idea that only an idiot would support.

If you want to get revenge on traffickers then you should start with the Sackler family and the pharmaceutical industry first.

Spending billions of dollars to invade and change the regime in Venezuela is just the stupidity and delusion of Trump and the Trump administration.

Originally Posted by lustylad

Wow! You're completely callous. Why would anyone try to minimize 100,000+ deaths a year? Maybe this will give you a better perspective:

What’s callous is the pharmaceutical industry in America that puts profits over people. The problem we have with opiates in this country started with Oxycontin and the Sackler family and the entire profit seeking behavior of our own drug companies.

Why don’t we spend our money reforming our healthcare system rather than spending our money on the military complex and starting another conflict with not even the fig leaf of a military justification.

[Mort Watt]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

What’s callous is the pharmaceutical industry in America that puts profits over people....

That's not nice. MAGA is just trying to defend some war crimes here.

I suppose the next thing you'll do is...something really mean...like...point out...

THE MOTHERFUCKING HYPOCRISY OF PARDONING HONDURAN PRESIDENT HERNANDEZ AFTER BEING CONVICTED OF DRUG TRAFFICKING.

And them Sacklers are nice people! They offered to give up $2 Billion of the $13 Billion they made killing off a bunch of folks who were...let's face it....probably NOT Trump voters.

Now... let's get back to blowing these fucking boats up! Peasants making several hundred dollars to drive these fucking boats deserve whatever happens to them. "Rules of Engagement" my ass. That's for pussies! And Libs, of course.

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[69in2it69]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Wow! You're completely callous. Why would anyone try to minimize 100,000+ deaths a year? Maybe this will give you a better perspective:

Combine the number of US soldiers killed during our last four major wars - 1) Iraq 2) Afghanistan 3) Vietnam and 4) Korea. The combined total will still fall short of the number of your fellow Americans who died from drug overdoses in the single year of 2023.




Wow again. When's the last time you saw a "fishing boat" powered by four 600-hp outboard motors? Do you think we ought to wait until the boats are in US waters before we stop them or blow them up? If the drugs stay in the Caribbean or get smuggled on to Europe and kill people there, are the lives lost of no concern to you?

I wasn't minimizing ANY deaths, including the uncharged civilians our military executed with no due process on only ALLEGED offenses. And, for the record, I'm not the one who lied about the number of deaths.


Yes, it's not our MILITARY's job to police anywhere, most certainly not the Caribbean waters for CIVILIAN criminal activities.


https://www.motorbiscuit.com/5-most-...motors-market/


Can you show me how you know they are 600-hp? Here's a link to the most powerful outboards created and an obvious video of "running". Ignore the white people with fishing gear.

[Yssup Rider]

MAGA's math doesn't make sense.

If they want to save lives, they should look no further than our own country and the "terrorists" walking the streets armed with a little more than illicit materials.

Tell me how then do we save everybody in church, school, the workplace, etc., by murdering foreign nationals on the high seas?

Why lie about this?

[lustylad]

BAAAHAHAHAHA!!!

[bb1961]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

MAGA's math doesn't make sense.

If they want to save lives, they should look no further than our own country and the "terrorists" walking the streets armed with a little more than illicit materials.

Tell me how then do we save everybody in church, school, the workplace, etc., by murdering foreign nationals on the high seas?

Why lie about this?

Again and Again you comment on a thread you haven't even read...how stupid is that???
Please tell us??

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by bb1961

Again and Again you comment on a thread you haven't even read...

Lol. If he actually read anything, he would never have reached 63k+ posts.

[bb1961]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Lol. If he actually read anything, he would never have reached 63k+ posts.

Point taken...
It's amazing how the comprehension bias is completely insane.

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Our country has been dealing with <POISON> addiction since the mass use of morphine during the civil war. We had a massive war on <POISON> starting with Reagan. Going to war over this issue is an idea that only an idiot would support.

If you want to get revenge on traffickers then you should start with the Sackler family and the pharmaceutical industry first.

Spending billions of dollars to invade and change the regime in Venezuela is just the stupidity and delusion of Trump and the Trump administration.

Yup. This country has had a massive drug problem since before I know. I can support the time frame you posted.

And also agree that profits are put before anything else. And the Sackler family is definitely proof of that. They did everything to sell their product while suppressing the lethality of it by addiction.

Maggies are all about grabbing the $$$$. They absolutely refuse to look at cost saving alternative that support fiscal conservatism. And when it comes to the drug problem in this country, a far cheaper alternative exist other than supporting a militant police state. Drug treatment programs to help addicts control and kick the habit is FAR CHEAPER than what donny and petey are up to now. Hell, it is cheaper to have the Coast Guard do their job than send a missle that cost a helluvalot more than the cost of petrol to get a cutter to rendez-vous with a boat in question.

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

What if we deal with them BEFORE they reach our shores?!?
That can be a thing.

You know. The thing. Ounce of prevention vs pound of cure. Come on man!

Man, I hope you seriously mean that. Prevention is always cheaper than to wait for a situation to fully blow up. See my above post about addiction prevention and cost cutting approach at drug runner intervention.

Originally Posted by bb1961

You're right they were trying to get to the north pole to give Santa gifts to give to all the people who weren't knotty. Why don't you tell us where they were trying to get?? Wasn't the narrative they were 'fisherman?'
No matter where they were going they were criminal's up to no good!!
The next story from the leftwing media is they were just bringing humanitarian aid to those in desperate need!!

donny and petey know that with no proof, they can spout off anything they want. They don't want any evidence that can tie them to killing innocent people. Maggies always take the lazy way out that is full of holes. They just want you to believe what they say.

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

What’s callous is the pharmaceutical industry in America that puts profits over people. The problem we have with opiates in this country started with Oxycontin and the Sackler family and the entire profit seeking behavior of our own drug companies.

Why don’t we spend our money reforming our healthcare system rather than spending our money on the military complex and starting another conflict with not even the fig leaf of a military justification.

Big corporations don't care if people get addicted if it lines their pockets. Sacklers are proof of this. When I first heard about oxycontin, the potency was stressed. Just one pill. If you take two, it could be lethal. And without missing a beat, they followed it up by saying it was not addictive.

I knew than something wasn't right.