Flood of Massage DIY

[Heehaw69]

All these DIY exist in Pittsburgh and no where else because the guys here despite how they want to spin it enjoy and prefer DIY. It’s not the females dictating this, it’s the guys paying big money for this. A lot of guys in Pittsburgh prefer it for their own fetish so that service has popped up all over the city. This is a Pittsburgh gentleman created market, this doesn’t fly anywhere else as have lived in multiple cities over the years.

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[Heehaw69]

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Originally Posted by Heehaw69

All these DIY exist in Pittsburgh and no where else because the guys here despite how they want to spin it enjoy and prefer DIY. It’s not the females dictating this, it’s the guys paying big money for this. A lot of guys in Pittsburgh prefer it for their own fetish so that service has popped up all over the city. This is a Pittsburgh gentleman created market, this doesn’t fly anywhere else as have lived in multiple cities over the years.

I don't think I concur. I think it's more nuanced than that.

There really isn't a "flood" of DIY services - there are exactly three. They just post a lot of ads, with multiple different phone numbers, which makes it seem like there are more of them than there actually are. Two of them are owned by the same person (who had previously owned other non-DIY services and had ... problems...). The other is owned by a girl who had previously worked at both of the other two DIY studios.

Remember, when the first of the DIY studios first popped up, there was basically *nothing* as far as non-AMP multi-girl incall studios. There used to be several, but they all vanished. For a long time, Elite Tanning was the "last studio standing" as far as non-Asian incalls. And that was on its last legs for a long time, because they had a lot of trouble finding (and keeping) any girls who anyone would want to see. As far as I recall, in the last two years or so that Elite was operating, they had exactly *one* girl who was actually worth seeing.

I think the reason so many guys go to the DIY places right now is, quite simply, because that's what's available, if you don't want to go to AMPs or to some sketchy hoodrat's sketchy incall location...

As far as why the previous full service incall spots all dried up, and why nothing has appeared to replace them, that's a more complicated issue, that I don't think I have a complete answer for. I'm sure a lot of it is because many of the girls who would have previously worked at these spots decided that they could work on their own without having a studio owner in the mix (and mostly failed, in part because most of them aren't organized enough to be successful without having a "manager" keeping things running), and partly because a lot of them decided (to varying degrees of success) that they could make as much, if not more, money by providing only online services and content, without ever having to meet a customer in person at all. I know that even the current DIY places find most of their staff from among the owners' real-life social circles and by the sheer personal charisma of the owners, and even they have had a lot of trouble finding girls and getting them to stay. But this is probably only part of it. I'd love to have a complete answer, but I don't...

[Heehaw69]

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[pensfan123456]

Originally Posted by laserface

I don't think I concur. I think it's more nuanced than that.

There really isn't a "flood" of DIY services - there are exactly three. They just post a lot of ads, with multiple different phone numbers, which makes it seem like there are more of them than there actually are. Two of them are owned by the same person (who had previously owned other non-DIY services and had ... problems...). The other is owned by a girl who had previously worked at both of the other two DIY studios.

Remember, when the first of the DIY studios first popped up, there was basically *nothing* as far as non-AMP multi-girl incall studios. There used to be several, but they all vanished. For a long time, Elite Tanning was the "last studio standing" as far as non-Asian incalls. And that was on its last legs for a long time, because they had a lot of trouble finding (and keeping) any girls who anyone would want to see. As far as I recall, in the last two years or so that Elite was operating, they had exactly *one* girl who was actually worth seeing.

I think the reason so many guys go to the DIY places right now is, quite simply, because that's what's available, if you don't want to go to AMPs or to some sketchy hoodrat's sketchy incall location...

As far as why the previous full service incall spots all dried up, and why nothing has appeared to replace them, that's a more complicated issue, that I don't think I have a complete answer for. I'm sure a lot of it is because many of the girls who would have previously worked at these spots decided that they could work on their own without having a studio owner in the mix (and mostly failed, in part because most of them aren't organized enough to be successful without having a "manager" keeping things running), and partly because a lot of them decided (to varying degrees of success) that they could make as much, if not more, money by providing only online services and content, without ever having to meet a customer in person at all. I know that even the current DIY places find most of their staff from among the owners' real-life social circles and by the sheer personal charisma of the owners, and even they have had a lot of trouble finding girls and getting them to stay. But this is probably only part of it. I'd love to have a complete answer, but I don't...

Laser thanks for your PM, I forgot to respond.


But 100000% the reason for the lack of available service is something that we aren't allowed to talk about on this forum. The circumstances of people involved in that hobby have changed significantly and, as a result, the service offerings available to us mongers are significantly fewer. That, combined with the fact that the good looking young girls can get money by doing OF or other content creation stuff means less good looking ones are becoming providers.


And although bigger cities still have SOME available options, it will never be like it was from like 2000-2015 again. We had it good in PGH with ASPD/Indys, but big cities had it GREAT. You could go on BP in NYC and find a dozen brothels where you could walk in and there were a dozen 21 yr old, drop dead gorgeous girls to choose from. I remember going there for a weekd for work back in maybe '09. I had a different girl every night, maybe spent 200 each, and they were all legit 9s. Difference we had in PGH was the forums and the vouch system/reviews which definitely helped a TON.


I just doubt we are ever getting back to the "good old days". Shame though. Remember the dude in Shadyside, had all the college girls working out of that house on Elmer St? I forget his name but his girls were nice.

[Heehaw69]

I agree OF takes possible providers away but it doesn’t account for argument why DIY thrives in Pittsburgh yet no where else. My thoughts? A parable per say but If someone wants to earn 100k and to make it, you actually have to work hard to do so but if a company comes in willing (or stupid enough) to pay someone 100k to sit around and answer a phone, where do you think people are going to work? Pittsburgh is willing to pay big money for DIY, where do you think these girls are going to work at?

[zip2121]

This area is a sad mix of old ****ed out Dolph Lundgren look-a-likes and the Type 2 diabetes in 3 years squad.

At least the chinese girls seem to have some self respect.

I pop on from time to time to see if there are any good prospects, but not anymore around here. At least some of the massage places seem more willing to offer above and beyond extras, probably because they (and most of you) keep quiet about it.