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Old Yesterday, 10:55 PM   #16
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Democrats Get the Epstein Wars Wrong

They are trivializing themselves just as their party senses a possible return to power.


By Holman W. Jenkins, Jr.
Nov. 14, 2025 5:14 pm ET


I know nothing beyond what’s in the press, but I somehow doubt Donald Trump was among the needy types who relied on Jeffrey Epstein for access to women they wouldn’t have had access to otherwise. It’s a point we’ll come back to.

Interesting and perhaps surprising advice has been flowing from the Democratic Party’s loyal handicappers after this month’s gubernatorial wins in New Jersey and Virginia. Don’t make impeachment the calling card in next year’s congressional midterms, they say. Consistent overbetting on the unpopularity of Mr. Trump has been the reciprocal of every blown opportunity till now. This includes the 2024 presidential race, which was winnable even amid the Democratic Party’s world-historical malpractices.

Unfortunately this advice conflicts with activists who insisted Democrats show “fight” with the thankless government shutdown that finally ended this week. Now they want more “fight” over Epstein. Never mind that this represents the sorriest possible way of building on recent electoral successes and Mr. Trump’s shrinking approval ratings.

Read carefully in a press somewhat chastened by its previous misreporting and you learn a couple of things. Mr. Trump and Epstein socialized in Palm Beach, but Epstein and his chief accuser, the late Virginia Giuffre, both left clear testimony Mr. Trump never behaved improperly.

In one of three emails leaked by Democrats to create this week’s furor, Epstein says Mr. Trump “knew about the girls as he asked ghislaine to stop.” To some of Mr. Trump’s shrillest defenders, this slight hint that Mr. Trump, then a private citizen, might have done more is reason to change the subject to a prior administration’s supposedly “sweetheart” plea deal with Epstein.

They forget its “sweetheart” nature was a description long after the fact by the Miami Herald to slur Mr. Trump. The original plea outcome may have been weak due to a desire to accommodate his victims’ reluctance to testify. But the only “sweetheart” effort came later when the office of the Democratic district attorney of New York County, with the illustrious name of Cyrus Vance Jr., tried to use their nontestimony to reduce Epstein’s sex-offender designation.

Which is exactly the risk Democrats now court. House Republicans answered this week’s selective Democratic release with a deluge of files that tell us nothing new about Mr. Trump but show Democrats like Larry Summers and former Obama White House lawyer Kathryn Ruemmler carrying on with Epstein long after his crimes were known. Down this road lies an obvious risk for the left: Bill Clinton and friends, who were the real power elite Epstein sought to cultivate in his criminal heyday.

To return to Mr. Trump’s history of womanizing: I erred in 2016 in believing his personal baggage would make him a risky nominee. In office, I thought he would be trammeled like no president in history by attacks on his businesses and his history of financial and personal scandals.

Wrong. All this disappeared from the public discourse in favor of a made-up story about Russia. In essence, Democrats immunized him from his own past by accusing him of the one thing of which he could be found innocent. A great enigma of political psychology, the place to look might be the psyche of Rachel Maddow. For reasons Dr. Freud might fathom, she was the left media’s most ardent promoter of the distraction that removed from Mr. Trump the weight of 35 years of tabloidal infamy.

A decade later, it takes Epstein, a certified [forbidden topic], to get Democrats past their discomfort with censoriousness about sex. They and the media are impelled forward by the idea that Mr. Trump resists Epstein disclosure out of personal desperation. In fact, his resistance is the only thing baiting them on and it may not be an accident. He calls it the Epstein “hoax,” a word, it pays to remember, with a specific resonance in Trumpspeak.

Meanwhile, in the wings are the Democrats he and Republicans really fear—the winners of this month’s New Jersey and Virginia races, the popular governors of Pennsylvania, Colorado and Kentucky.

Many GOP-leaning big-money donors, I’m here to tell you, find these folks easier to deal with than Mr. Trump and his acolytes.

What keeps these Democrats from power are the antics of their national party: the Russia folly, the border folly, the trans folly, the Biden incapacity folly. The Epstein distraction bids to be another piece of foolishness that does more to inhibit Democrats’ return to real influence than advance it.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/democrat...wrong-93c6210a
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...as a private citizen I would like to know who continued to be associated with Epstein after he was convicted in 2008, who was responsible for getting him his sweet heart deal, and who was taking his money as gifts or political contributions.
See the WSJ column I just posted - it answers those questions.
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Democrats Get the Epstein Wars Wrong

They are trivializing themselves just as their party senses a possible return to power.


By Holman W. Jenkins, Jr.
Nov. 14, 2025 5:14 pm ET


I know nothing....
WSJ Opinion pieces. The part of the publication that no one reads. Ever. Except when it conveniently helps MAGA in their unending fealty. Even then... no one reads it except them.

Y'all don't get it.

The Dems... in their never-ending quest to "stay stupid" are laughing about this whole mess and the desperate attempts by MAGA to deflect.

We aren't doing anything except enjoying the show.

Enjoying watching MAGA try to defend a scumbag who was Besties with another scumbag.

We don't care one damn bit about what Biden or Obama did or didn't do.

In their pathetic attempts to deflect from this, MAGA just makes it look like they are trying VERY hard to hide something.

This POS Jenkins "column" answers nothing. It is just deflection with lots of prettier words to make it look like it has the "answers."

This shit just looks worse and worse the more you keep saying "there's nothing here!"

We know that. We don't care.

We will take every opportunity to criticize and denigrate Trump over this. It is what he would do in a similar situation against his enemies. We learn from the best!
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The double standard of the Judicial system in Washington DC has been a growing problem ever since Watergate.


The Epstein case is a mess. All of the big names would get together, but only some knew the secret code to get to the back room of illicit activity. Once some of them found out they just stopped going, but didn't try to condemn the others.


So now you have a situation where probably 50% of the names mentioned never actually went in the back room but if the names are released they will be out of context and people will assume they were in the back room.
So how do you know all about this secret back room. Been there yourself?
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WSJ Opinion pieces. The part of the publication that no one reads. Ever...

This POS Jenkins "column" answers nothing. It is just deflection with lots of prettier words to make it look like it has the "answers."
Triggered much, mort? Intimidated by too many "pretty words"?

I just glanced at the Jenkins column again - it has over 1,200 comments so far. So it would appear that quite a few people DO read the WSJ opinion pieces. Too bad you're not one of them. If you were, you would know the Journal editorial team and its opinion writers are often scathingly critical of Donald J. Trump.

But thanks for motivating me go back and skim some of the comments, Mort. Here's one especially for you:


"Donald J. Trump is the luckiest man on planet earth. Calling his enemies the Keystone Cops is to ascribe too much competence to them. And is an insult to the Keystone guys.

The mistake Trump makes is that he believes all of his success is due to his incredible political instincts and competence. The fact is that his enemies couldn't have done a better job of getting him elected if they were all sycophants."
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