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Old 10-09-2025, 02:09 PM   #16
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Trump administration now considers $ 10 billion to bail out soybean farmers for damage done by Trump tariffs.


This doesn't mention any assistance for all the businesses shut down and job losses because of the Trump tariffs. Not to mention many US ports now only operate at 65% capacity.


Trump tariffs seem to lead to a lot of unintended consequences.
Give this one a read, rates are not anyhwere near 65%, some are down, some are up, ports also serve as "rental/storage" spaces and that has been declining simply due to rent rates going through the roof. Ports decided to cash in on the 2020 panic manuver of over order everything and store it. So companies seem to be moving product to less costly storage locations.

Here's another one to browse, some farmers, going back generations now, are what we call "Insurance farmers" They've been taking government subsidies for decades, meaning 10-20% of their income is gubment cheese. When your business model means you expand rapidly using taxpayer money, you should really make sure the model can survive without that.

https://usafacts.org/articles/federa...hat-data-says/

50% of the crop is exported, 20% is paid for by the taxpayers, 30% is sold domestic. I feel for them, but let's also recognize the size and scale of the "farmers" here.
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Old 10-09-2025, 09:14 PM   #17
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... Too right, mate! ... Just a bit of checking the facts
would show YOU to be correct on this...

The "going's good" when the government money $$$$$ supports it
for years, but then something like THIS tariff re-set and now
comes the adjustment for the farmers.
... Time now for them to get their stations in order.

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Old 10-10-2025, 01:13 AM   #18
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Democrats don't grasp how much all their rules and regulations cost farmers. It is all about central power and having lawyers with no knowledge of the industry they regulate write regulations.
It’s not just democrats that create these regulations. Republican politicians have had their hands involved with Agriculture regulations for at least as long as democrats have.

The problem is that politicians rely on “experts” to advise them when passing legislation and those experts in this case favor Big Agriculture.

Giant corporations are influencing lots of agricultural production, policies, and the laws and regulations created. Blaming democrats won’t fix the problem that small farmers face.
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Old 10-10-2025, 07:45 AM   #19
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Here are the facts:


China has not purchased any U.S. soybeans since May, according to the American Soybean Association. Beijing has pivoted to suppliers in Brazil and Argentina.


All agriculture exports to China were down 53 percent in the first seven months of 2025, compared with the same period last year, according to USDA data.


The dramatic shift echoes China’s response to the tariff war during Trump’s first term when the value of U.S. soybean exports plunged to $3.1 billion in 2018 from $14 billion in 2016.
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Trump administration now considers $ 10 billion to bail out soybean farmers for damage done by Trump tariffs.


This doesn't mention any assistance for all the businesses shut down and job losses because of the Trump tariffs. Not to mention many US ports now only operate at 65% capacity.


Trump tariffs seem to lead to a lot of unintended consequences.
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Here are the facts:


China has not purchased any U.S. soybeans since May, according to the American Soybean Association. Beijing has pivoted to suppliers in Brazil and Argentina.


All agriculture exports to China were down 53 percent in the first seven months of 2025, compared with the same period last year, according to USDA data.


The dramatic shift echoes China’s response to the tariff war during Trump’s first term when the value of U.S. soybean exports plunged to $3.1 billion in 2018 from $14 billion in 2016.

Farmstud, where are you to address such heinous statements?
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