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Old 08-21-2025, 11:30 AM   #16
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Best does not equal realistic.
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Old 08-21-2025, 12:53 PM   #17
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Hot damn! This is a great idea Blackman! I proposed a similar idea over 30 years ago -- move the entire Jewish population from Israel to America. We would have have saved a butt load in foreign aid if we'd done that. And gotten a lot of productive new taxpaying citizens, including some world class doctors and scientists. Then the Palestinians could have Palestine -- problem solved!

I like your idea even better though. A majority of Jewish immigrants vote for Democrats. But Eastern Orthodox Christians, like most Ukrainians, are twice as likely to vote Republican!

https://prri.org/research/census-202...ican-religion/

That's even better than the Cubans and the Vietnamese!

Your idea of making Ukraine a U.S. territory won't fly though. If the Soviet Union had transported all the Cubans or all the Mexicans to the USSR back during the cold war, the U.S. would have just moved in and claimed the territory for itself. That's the way big powers work. And who wants Ukraine without the Ukrainians anyway? As you say, we'll have all their hot nubile womanfolk anyway, in our own backyards, to do with as we please!

I have one suggested change in your plan though. If the USA and Europe can keep this war going for another couple of years, all the Ukrainian men under the age of 60 will be dead! That's the maximum age of conscription there, 60. Then we'll just bring women over. More poontang for you and me!

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/03/nx-s1...men-in-the-war
@Tiny, You say most people from Ukraine would vote republican, in a presidential election that would only help if they move into one of the battleground/swing states. Moving into a state that is always red would not help with the electoral college.

As for the OP's idea I would rather let them join NATO if they can qualify. The USA should just continue to give them weapons. That seems to be working. Didn't someone who attended Westpoint predict that the Russia/Ukraine war would in end in six months?
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Old 08-21-2025, 09:40 PM   #18
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Best does not equal realistic.
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I think the OP is just having a little fun considering the tone in this forum re: Ukraine these last few days. Tiny seems to be the only one who caught that.
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I ageww with Lucas this . . .the OP is not serious.
No gentlemen, we're serious. Blackman's fine pushing the world to the brink of Armageddon by annexing Ukraine, because he believes the Russians don't have the balls to push the nuclear button. Maybe he's right. And maybe he's wrong. I on the other hand have no problem giving Ukrainians U.S. citizenship and letting Russia take over Ukraine. Then the Russians and Ukrainians could engage in more productive pursuits than killing each other. Plus the influx of Cuban strippers is one of the best things that happened to our country in the last 10 years. And we've got a chance to repeat that with Ukrainians!

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@Tiny, You say most people from Ukraine would vote republican, in a presidential election that would only help if they move into one of the battleground/swing states. Moving into a state that is always red would not help with the electoral college.
True adav8s28, but their presence would be a big plus in the House of Representatives. And more importantly in my local titty bar!
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If the citizens were allowed to vote for their leaders.

Trump and Putin should insist on voting guarantees. Something like: hold an election and have the new President represent Ukraine in the discussions.
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