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Old 05-11-2025, 11:21 PM   #16
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My worry is not the actions of Trump but rather the fact that he is probably not getting all the information he needs or the information he is getting is structured in such a way to feed his own ego and biases.

That’s what you get when you’re surrounded by yes men and you are incapable of understanding when you’re wrong.

When a real crisis emerges during the next four years I expect chaos and confusion in the aftermath.
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You know when you make statements like this you sound like a fanatic. It’s like you can’t consider any other viewpoint except slavish sycophancy to Donald Trump.

I’m not praying for Trump to fail. Experience just tells me to expect it.

what's frightening is that you think anyone in Trump's cabinet, the Military and the Intel agencies would intentionally withhold/mislead info to Trump as president.


if so, that sounds exactly what the deep state military industrial complex, if they existed, would do. yes?
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Old 05-12-2025, 12:21 AM   #17
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what's frightening is that you think anyone in Trump's cabinet, the Military and the Intel agencies would intentionally withhold/mislead info to Trump as president.


if so, that sounds exactly what the deep state military industrial complex, if they existed, would do. yes?
That’s what happens when you fear for your job. Trump tends to fire people who tell him things he doesn’t want to hear. When that happens the people left will usually shade things to put themselves in the best light.

The president needs the people around him to give him the unvarnished truth whether he wants to hear it or not. That’s hard to do when Trump keeps firing those who disagree with him.
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That’s what happens when you fear for your job. Trump tends to fire people who tell him things he doesn’t want to hear. When that happens the people left will usually shade things to put themselves in the best light.

The president needs the people around him to give him the unvarnished truth whether he wants to hear it or not. That’s hard to do when Trump keeps firing those who disagree with him.



Nonsense. no one who could reach flag officer rank would ever intentionally mislead the president unless they were a Manchurian Candidate which would make them a traitor. and anyone else on Trump's cabinet who would intentionally mislead Trump.
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Old 05-12-2025, 01:56 AM   #19
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Nonsense. no one who could reach flag officer rank would ever intentionally mislead the president unless they were a Manchurian Candidate which would make them a traitor. and anyone else on Trump's cabinet who would intentionally mislead Trump.
Top US official admits lying to Trump on American troop levels in Syria
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/us-t...rey-interview/
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Top US official admits lying to Trump on American troop levels in Syria
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/us-t...rey-interview/

five years out of date and proof of the Manchurian candidate effect against Trump.



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That's just keeping the football from him.

Either he's being controlled or out of control.
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Old 05-12-2025, 04:21 AM   #22
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...When a real crisis emerges during the next four years I expect chaos and confusion in the aftermath.
I'm sure you slept soundly at night the past four years with President Auto-Pen at the helm, with access to the nuclear football, but now the TDS keeps you awake 24x7?
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Old 05-12-2025, 04:26 AM   #23
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...Either he's being controlled or out of control.
OR - he is the boss of the bosses?

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Old 05-12-2025, 04:42 AM   #24
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Top US official admits lying to Trump on American troop levels in Syria...
What say ye as to a fitting punishment for such an offense, by the admitted offender, from the person that has access to the full might and power of the US, including said nuclear football of the OP origin?

To help you in your selection, start with treason and work your way down from there.

Side question: You felt good about trotting out that URL about someone giving the President of the USA, i.e. the person with the nuclear codes, bad information that could easily cause many, many people, including Americans, to die across the globe to support your TDS infliction?!?
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Old 05-12-2025, 07:58 AM   #25
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I'm sure you slept soundly at night the past four years with President Auto-Pen at the helm, with access to the nuclear football, but now the TDS keeps you awake 24x7?
How much weight have you lost on the whataboutism diet, WYID?

You’ve been on it for months.
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A standoff. Next move:




I started this thread to reply to you without going off topic and to post the video of Slim Pickens riding a nuclear bomb. Which you have to admit is pretty damn cool.

You bring up a question. Who brought us closer to a nuclear war, the Reagan or Kennedy administration? I’d argue that’s a no brainer. Robert McNamara and the other geniuses who brought us the Vietnam War also brought us much closer to nuclear Armageddon than Reagan’s bunch.

Anybody who puts all the blame on the Russkies just isn’t being fair. We put nukes in Turkey first. If memory serves me correctly that’s where Major Kong was based. Fortunately this is one instance where fiction didn’t become fact. Not yet anyway.
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I started this thread to reply to you without going off topic and to post the video of Slim Pickens riding a nuclear bomb. Which you have to admit is pretty damn good.

You bring up a question. Who brought us closer to a nuclear war, the Reagan or Kennedy administration? I’d argue that’s a no brainer. Robert McNamara and the other geniuses who brought us the Vietnam War also brought us much closer to nuclear Armageddon than Reagan’s bunch.

Anybody who puts all the blame on the Russkies just isn’t being fair. We put nukes in Turkey first. If memory serves me correctly that’s where Major Kong was based. Fortunately this is one instance where fiction didn’t become fact. Not yet anyway.
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What say ye as to a fitting punishment for such an offense, by the admitted offender, from the person that has access to the full might and power of the US, including said nuclear football of the OP origin?

To help you in your selection, start with treason and work your way down from there.

Side question: You felt good about trotting out that URL about someone giving the President of the USA, i.e. the person with the nuclear codes, bad information that could easily cause many, many people, including Americans, to die across the globe to support your TDS infliction?!?:
Why is it so difficult for you to admit that Trump’s management style is bad for the country?

Running the country is a complex job. It requires a pool of competent professionals who can and will make their arguments for or against a position based upon the facts. They must be able to do so without so without worrying about being stabbed in the back by the likes of Laura Loomer, or being forced to defend their jobs from Elon Musk, or simply being forced to say that the 2020 election was rigged when it wasn’t.

I have a feeling that the people around Trump have a tendency to feed him the information he wants to see and not the information he needs to see.

And that’s bad for the nuclear safety of the country.
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I'll pick all of the below.
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Why is it so difficult for you to admit that Trump’s management style is bad for the country?...
A majority of voters voted for it. It was not sight unseen.
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...Running the country is a complex job. It requires a pool of competent professionals who can and will make their arguments for or against a position based upon the facts...
As it is in running a global enterprise. Between you and Donald J Trump, only one of you have done both of those jobs. Oh! And did I mention that a majority of people, including all seven swing states, voted for him?
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Those are colloquially known as former employees, both in a global enterprise and government. Disgruntled ones no less.
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...And that’s bad for the nuclear safety of the country.
Just not under Ol' Puddin Head. AmmIrite? Isn't it time you admit that we dodged a "bullet" by not tossing the nuclear football to Kamala "The Cackler" Harris?

However, we will let you if the sky actually falls.
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OR - he is the boss of the bosses?

But it's obvious he's not. Since the military and his staff are keeping him from seeing the important stuff. To keep his dumb-ass hands off the button.

Boss he is not. He's the one on the end of the strings dancing to somebody else's tune.

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