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Old 04-14-2025, 10:13 AM   #16
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I have had multiple women contact me in the last few months bc business is slow. The ones I have gone in to see have told me it has not been busy. The Latin agencies have dropped their rates and are offering $160 an hour during slow nights. I had a centerfolds stripper hit me up 2 weeks ago with an offer for $300 OTC bc I have seen her inside a few times. Same girl that was sponsored and didnt work for a long time. Very pretty. Strip clubs are pretty slow. Yeah, its not great out there right now. Good for you if you haven't felt the impact. I only know a handful of providers that haven't been trying to drum up business.
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Old 04-14-2025, 11:57 AM   #17
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Providers need to learn how to save money and stop buying LV shoes and hand bags!

anyone should have a saftey nent ,, Have 3 months of rent saved up for when it's slower.

If you have the Pu**ey men want, it will sale no matter on looks - age - area -rates.

And this goes for when OH2 is down .. about money in the bank.
This is why Gina has been successful
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Old 04-14-2025, 02:47 PM   #18
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Strip clubs have been dying for a long time.


For me-- my bellwether is always how things are going on cam. When I'm not actively touring-- I do live camming. Now-- I'm a niche performer. I'm in my 40's and I'm not built like a supermodel. So-- I am a "canary in the coal mine", so to speak.


What I've noticed lately is that my money is the same that it has always been-- but my market segments are shifting. My main site does a thing called "dynamic pricing".. where we set a range of rates we are comfortable with-- then the site uses algorithms to base the customer rate on their normal spending practices.


What I'm seeing-- is that I still have the same level of business both at the low end... AND at the high end... but the mid range is a lot lighter than normal. So-- plenty of shows in the 3.99-5.99/minute range... and plenty of shows in the 8.99-10.99/minute range-- but the range in the middle is pretty much not there anymore. Which-- is somewhat interesting to me. Overall-- my earnings are pretty much the same, just the demo has shifted.
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Old 04-14-2025, 03:04 PM   #19
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Great comments and agree. I think strip clubs would be the places with the biggest impact followed by amp tips (but not amp house fees; locally the Hwy 6 establishment will continue to make hay given the high service level!).

Just seeing some softness in general (pun definitely not intended) but Houston is fairly resilient. My ATF has discounted a rate once or twice knowing I’ll make it up to her or help her with other work lol. Cheers

Tallia, your comments seem to hit further what has been going on for a number years - the middle class is getting squeezed and not in a good way.

I’ve had one intermittent amp lady go for a benji and a half for a wonderful, full experience. And the last time a guy was literally giving a fiver for a rosy experience (I assume) as a tip and there were some feathers flying… and an addition to that shops blacklist.
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Old 04-14-2025, 04:15 PM   #20
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and I only tour 1-2 times a month and touring is not cheap..

I have learnd being salf-employed for over 35years
SAVE SAVE SAVE $$$$$$$$$$$$$

NO one need's 2K shoes or hand bag to look good.
I put the 2K in my high yeald saving act and make money on the 2k..
I can look good in shoes from DSW LOL
Thank you WD
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Old 04-14-2025, 04:18 PM   #21
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When a provider knows how to Market herself ,she will never need to send a text out asking for appt .
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Old 04-14-2025, 04:55 PM   #22
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Plenty of providers will feel the pinch. Just the result of there being less total disposable income available in the market for the same or more providers. Of course, some won't feel the pinch, but plenty of others will. I imagine lower end providers who rely on men with less disposable income will feel it more. If you're vying for customers who don't lose their job or for whom a recession means less money going into the savings account, they'll still see providers. But a man who no longer has $200 extra each week isn't able to buy pussy. A few of those men show up a few less and it translates to less business.

I find the defensiveness a bit odd though. It reminds me of how some people think that being a really, really good and dependable employee can make them recession proof or something. As if the economy affecting you is somehow a failing on your part. Very weird. For the most part, whether or not a recession affects you is due to factors beyond your direct control. Not everyone can get a job that can weather an economic downturn. Not every provider is of a demographic that they can restrict their clientele and not have it affect their income.
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Old 04-14-2025, 05:44 PM   #23
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I find the defensiveness a bit odd though.

The defensiveness from us providers comes from the fact that punters will *always* try to use the economy to "scare" us into lowering our rates.

It's also just a shitty thing to tell someone, basically, "Looks like you're gonna be broke!"

It's already a stressful time for a lot of people, a lot of weird shit going on, uncertainty, and all kinds of malarkey running around. We don't need more fear mongering added to the pile.

And, as said, having provided now off and on in Houston for years, there are always a few men trying these scare tactics to get ladies to lower their rates.

In Houston, anytime the price of a barrel of oil goes down, they try to tell us "You best be lowering them rates, ladies!"

So yeah, we're tired of hearing it and get annoyed.
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Old 04-14-2025, 06:00 PM   #24
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I don't see it as defensive to say exactly what I've experienced as someone who has actually worked in the brothels... nor to say what is currently going on in the camming side of my work. I mean-- I'm quite certain whoever wrote the article originally posted has not done either in their life. The simple fact that they see the Jan-March quarter being down as "evidence" shows a complete lack of knowledge of the seasons in Nevada. Jan-March is ALWAYS down compared to Oct-Dec.. and that's true on the independent side of things as well.
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The other point is that there always seems to be this rampant assumption that SWs only do SW for income.

When the truth is vastly different. You have no idea what us ladies have going on in our lives. Civvie jobs, side hustles, investments, other various sources of income.

There are always slow seasons in every business. Even this one. For those that know how to manage their lives and their finances properly, that does not always mean that it's time to freak out. And definitely not a time to lower rates. If anything, I think they should be raised....Jk. ��
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Old 04-14-2025, 11:19 PM   #26
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This is my take on all this. I believe e providers have literally lost their minds. I'm seeing rates at 700 an hr . 500. Just crazy numbers. Even Mona Lisa is inching her donation up. Women are oblivious to the fact that there is more pussy out there then demand. I get it, never let them see you sweat , but the truth is that there is more pussy than money. Case in point,why travel? If there is so much money in Houston why do Houston ladies have to travel to Austin, Dallas etc to make money. We have Latin agencies at 180. 200. We have women calling begging for money. We have Relaxing. We literally have so many options and the truth is women in this business whether they give it to a pimp or whoever don't save their money. Make 1,000 a day or more still broke.

So in reference to the Op I don't ever listen to providers about any sage wisdom about the health of the economy. There are only a few providers I would ever listen to. Lusty, Claudia McPherson, Mona Lisa, Mila Jynx, with a heavy heart I will include Lolita, Busty just to name a few. The rest I just want them to give me some pussy, cip preferred. The tariffs hit the stock market hard and I'm a Trump supporter. Thank God he reversed all but China. People got afraid so yes the market for discretionary spending slowed down. Guys don't need sex to survive, we want it. Need and want are two entirely different things. Above all like Lusty said above save your money ladies. It's just that simple. Guys, please don't get any financial advice from any of these ladies except the honor roll I listed above and perhaps I guess Talia( never met her)
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Old 04-14-2025, 11:38 PM   #27
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The defensiveness from us providers comes from the fact that punters will *always* try to use the economy to "scare" us into lowering our rates.

It's also just a shitty thing to tell someone, basically, "Looks like you're gonna be broke!"

It's already a stressful time for a lot of people, a lot of weird shit going on, uncertainty, and all kinds of malarkey running around. We don't need more fear mongering added to the pile.

And, as said, having provided now off and on in Houston for years, there are always a few men trying these scare tactics to get ladies to lower their rates.

In Houston, anytime the price of a barrel of oil goes down, they try to tell us "You best be lowering them rates, ladies!"

So yeah, we're tired of hearing it and get annoyed.
It's not a scare tactic it's reality. Lower your rates. There are only a certain amount of folks who can afford these high ass rates in a recession and there is so much pussy. So much. To not understand that is lunacy. I talk actively to these ladies so I have a bead on what's actually going on. Women lost their shit when Oh2 paused. If pussy sells itself why are women so dependent on a site. I don't understand why women who have been in the industry for over 3 years need to advertise at all. You should have enough regulars

Octaviaxs never advertises. Mona Lisa. Mila Jynx. NM. KellyJ has closed her books. She is not accepting any new clients.Those ladies are going to weather the storm but the 90 percent are going to have to lower their donation or find a real job. That's reality
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Old 04-15-2025, 12:28 AM   #28
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The other point is that there always seems to be this rampant assumption that SWs only do SW for income.

When the truth is vastly different. You have no idea what us ladies have going on in our lives. Civvie jobs, side hustles, investments, other various sources of income.

There are always slow seasons in every business. Even this one. For those that know how to manage their lives and their finances properly, that does not always mean that it's time to freak out. And definitely not a time to lower rates. If anything, I think they should be raised....Jk. ��
Ding Ding Ding, Correct answer right here
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Old 04-15-2025, 06:40 AM   #29
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It's not a scare tactic it's reality...
In your fantasy land.
It must be nice to be on top of a cloud seeing everything in your version of fantasy.
But what are you standing on? It's a long way down.
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It's not a scare tactic it's reality. Lower your rates. There are only a certain amount of folks who can afford these high ass rates in a recession and there is so much pussy. So much. To not understand that is lunacy. I talk actively to these ladies so I have a bead on what's actually going on. Women lost their shit when Oh2 paused. If pussy sells itself why are women so dependent on a site. I don't understand why women who have been in the industry for over 3 years need to advertise at all. You should have enough regulars

Octaviaxs never advertises. Mona Lisa. Mila Jynx. NM. KellyJ has closed her books. She is not accepting any new clients.Those ladies are going to weather the storm but the 90 percent are going to have to lower their donation or find a real job. That's reality

See-- there are also only so many who can afford high rates in a good economy-- for the ladies who charge high rates, that's the point. I'm more at risk at my "low side of average" rate than someone who is charging 900 plus. Much like in my camming example above-- its the mid range that falls off first.
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