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Old 04-01-2025, 01:23 PM   #16
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I think one of the ways ck has remained on the right side of the law is the fact he doesn’t charge ladies or gents to use the site. It’s hard to get charged with “promotion” when you don’t get paid to do so.
That's exactly right. The way the law is worded for sites that are free vs sites that are for-profit vary. Even with an LLC the owner of for-profit sites can get in a lot of trouble. They can also be personally sued if a provider/lady has a bad experience with a client/man & it can be traced back to the site.
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Old 04-01-2025, 01:51 PM   #17
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He is also a big advocate for us and wanted to create a safe and useful place for us. He is a pretty stand up guy (met him once, years ago.) P411 doesn't charge us either. I think adding premium options for both sides could be a good option, but I am extremely grateful to have safe and good places to attract attention from that I don't have to pay for.
I'm a big advocate for women as well, I just believe he lost sight of also making sure men are safe and treated right as well. Why would someone randomly hack your site? I'm honestly great and I use the above methods in order to do what I need to do and when. If all else fails I'm verified at every agency so if all this craters my balls will never be full. I don't understand how p411 gets away with charging members if that's the case and you are going to tell me no site charges ladies to advertise? If so why bother with it if it ain't making money. Ladies don't mind men paying to be on p411 but lord forbid someone asks them to pay for ad space they need
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Old 04-01-2025, 02:20 PM   #18
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I think one of the ways ck has remained on the right side of the law is the fact he doesn’t charge ladies or gents to use the site. It’s hard to get charged with “promotion” when you don’t get paid to do so.
Right about now, I bet ladies wouldn't mind a "just get it back online" donation. But, yes I agree with you.
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Old 04-01-2025, 03:03 PM   #19
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I'm a big advocate for women as well, I just believe he lost sight of also making sure men are safe and treated right as well. Why would someone randomly hack your site? I'm honestly great and I use the above methods in order to do what I need to do and when. If all else fails I'm verified at every agency so if all this craters my balls will never be full. I don't understand how p411 gets away with charging members if that's the case and you are going to tell me no site charges ladies to advertise? If so why bother with it if it ain't making money. Ladies don't mind men paying to be on p411 but lord forbid someone asks them to pay for ad space they need
The answer to your question on how other sites identify and mitigate legal risk is complicated enough I don’t want to go off topic in trying to explain it. Suffice to say that there is not a “one size fits all” approach to running a hobby website and not get into legal trouble. P411’s approach makes sense given their circumstances, and oh2’s makes sense for different reasons. I can say the same for Eccie.
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Old 04-01-2025, 04:14 PM   #20
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I'm a big advocate for women as well, I just believe he lost sight of also making sure men are safe and treated right as well. Why would someone randomly hack your site?
Never said you weren't and agree partakers need ways to stay safe as well. Y'all have access to the same resources we do like reviews (so you can make sure the lady is legit) and P411 okays (you can see that she is active and legit) and you could even reach out to other gents if you really wanted to confirm a lady was ok that he had reviewed. You're also able to access all of that for free, which is great.

Something y'all do get on here that we don't is a premium option with added features. You can also see hidden comments about us on our reviews that we have no way of ever getting to see. (Always concerning for us because we can't know if a gent is wrongly portraying us out here.)

Re: someone hacking OH2 - is that legit or just the gossip on the street?

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....but lord forbid someone asks them to pay for ad space they need...
You have a strong opinion about what *we* should have to do with our hard-earned moolah.

If we had to pay for every site, I can guarantee you guys would have less options on the market.

At the end of the day both here, and OH2 (when it is working) are great *free* resources for both providers and hobbyists alike if you know how to utilize them properly.
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Old 04-01-2025, 07:47 PM   #21
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Re: hacking of oh2 = gossip.
DDOS attacks of unknown origin = explanation of ownership and most likely the reason.
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Old 04-01-2025, 10:09 PM   #22
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Re: hacking of oh2 = gossip.
DDOS attacks of unknown origin = explanation of ownership and most likely the reason.
I figured it was gossip. It's funny because I only just came back and two people have already told me some crazy story about why it is down. 😂
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Old 04-02-2025, 07:47 AM   #23
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No P411 mentioned,
If my regulars (3) are not available I hit the available now at P411
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Old 04-02-2025, 09:04 AM   #24
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No P411 mentioned,
If my regulars (3) are not available I hit the available now at P411
Thank you for that insight! Definitely good to know gents do use it. I post there regularly.
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Old 04-02-2025, 09:25 AM   #25
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Re: hacking of oh2 = gossip.
DDOS attacks of unknown origin = explanation of ownership and most likely the reason.
Yes, gossip.
However....
There are numourous types of attacks that can prevent access to any site that's under attack.
Professional firewalls that have built in programming to modify denial blocks are quite expensive.

Repeating myself from elsewhere...
P411 is all that ECG's friends use unless in Chicago or Virgina.
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Old 04-02-2025, 09:48 AM   #26
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P411 does charge if we want a Visiting ad it's whole 20$ for a month.
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Old 04-02-2025, 10:12 AM   #27
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Did anybody else get an email from thehobbyverse.net
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Old 04-02-2025, 01:12 PM   #28
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Did anybody else get an email from thehobbyverse.net
No email here. I hadn't heard of it before. It looks pretty small and not very active?
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Old 04-02-2025, 01:58 PM   #29
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Did anybody else get an email from thehobbyverse.net
Yes
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Old 04-02-2025, 05:55 PM   #30
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I have not even heard of most of these sites. Now I realize I have been keeping my eggs in one basket.
I just signed up on PrivateDelights. Site is clean looking - has a search feature where you can set an age range, height, and some other paramenters
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