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Old 03-23-2025, 05:20 AM   #16
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My brother and sister in law are liberal PhDs and professors of education related stuff. Both feel that the Constitution gives too much decentralized power to the states. They would much prefer a Parliamentary form of government as is found in most European countries along with the European Union's umbrella government over all of them. That is, of course, why the UK seceded from the EU.

I would say (but the leftists will not) that what the progressive left really stands for today is to replace the Constitution of our Republic with European national parliamentary form of government that has controlling power over the states.
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Old 03-23-2025, 05:29 AM   #17
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ICU,
it's not "gives too much decentralized power to the states", it's a limit on the federal govt from having to much power.
The states, the original colonies that is, were all actually independent from each other.
Correct context is required.

The progressive left as you describe, have a hopeless task.
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Old 03-23-2025, 06:14 AM   #18
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They love domestic terrorism as of late.
First rule of engagement:
Never Interfere With an Enemy While He’s in the Process of Destroying Himself

Having said that: The reality is summed up nicely here:
What they are actually destroying is themselves.

And I'm good wid dat.
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Old 03-23-2025, 07:37 AM   #19
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...The progressive left as you describe, have a hopeless task.
Seems more like a self-harm issue. I anticipate them to completely self-immolate, because we know exactly what is driving them - loosing the easy money. Loosing voters is just a side effect.

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EXPOSED 🚨 Department of Education is laundering money back to the Democrat Party

“This is why Democrats are losing their minds over Elon Musk. It's all about money”

Rep Harriet Hageman “The Federal Department of Education spends it as a budget of about $280 billion a year. Less than 25% goes to educating our students. So where does the other $220 billion go? It goes to a bureaucracy, it goes to a consultant, and that consultant then donates money BACK TO DEMOCRATS, and then it goes to a different consultant, and then it goes to an NGO. I mean, IT IS MONEY LAUNDERING and money churning at its absolute best.”

“Is the DOGE Program targeted at these bureaucrats?”

“Yes”
Yes Virginia - that IS the crux of the biscuit
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ICU,
it's not "gives too much decentralized power to the states", it's a limit on the federal govt from having to much power.
The states, the original colonies that is, were all actually independent from each other.
Correct context is required.

The progressive left as you describe, have a hopeless task.
How right you are in that.

Obama himself complained that the Constitution limited what government could do rather than empowering it.

Back at the beginning: The Declaration of Independence declared that the colonies "
. . .are and or a right ought to be free and independent states . . ." That is how they thought of themselves in 1776.
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"What does the left believe in?"

Spending/receiving other people's money.
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Keying cars is the latest leftist fad. Only a matter of time before someone gets a well deserved ass beating.
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How right you are in that.

Obama himself complained that the Constitution limited what government could do rather than empowering it.

Back at the beginning: The Declaration of Independence declared that the colonies "
. . .are and or a right ought to be free and independent states . . ." That is how they thought of themselves in 1776.



FDR definitely advanced socialism to try and get out of the depression. It didn't work, but then Hitler rose to power and also Japan attacked Pearl Harbor and we had WWII. There was plenty of central planing, ration stamps, and black markets during the War. People put up with it as the enemy from Germany and Japan was greater than Socialism. After the War, people knew the destruction forces and corruption of Socialism. Since we repeat failed history Democrats love central planing, socialim, marxism etc. They love central power and corrupt politicians getting rich off the common man.
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Pure comedy ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Dems and real Republicans believe in democracy. Not the maga dictatorship forming.
The left believes in stopping trumpf.
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Only an idiot believes in DEMOCRACY. We have a republic, representative, constitutional, or democratic but a republic. In a democracy the majority could call for the evisceration of WD by popular vote. In a constitutional republic, we have rights guaranteed by a document that the left would like to burn.

Chinese boxes...
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Old 03-24-2025, 06:12 AM   #26
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Only an idiot believes in DEMOCRACY. We have a republic, representative, constitutional, or democratic but a republic. In a democracy the majority could call for the evisceration of WD by popular vote. In a constitutional republic, we have rights guaranteed by a document that the left would like to burn.

Chinese boxes...
Like the Wilson era move to have stste senators elected by popular vote, eliminating the electoral college would be another step towards mob rule by the popular vote alone. . . .more steps toward eliminating our constitutional Republic.
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They love domestic terrorism as of late.
Just like the maggies do to. Why comment or complain about it than?

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"BURN Baby BURN! - Tesla Inferno - BURN the Muther Down!"

Hmmmm... I'm looking... yet I can't seem to find many
- IF ANY - high-level Democrats speaking out AGAINST this.

... The Dems are complacent as ever in the destruction
of property - when it suits them ...

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We have a sensible gun law that shall not be infringed.
Hopes and prayers. That to the demographic in the USA that leads to the #1 cause of death for them.

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My brother and sister in law are liberal PhDs and professors of education related stuff. Both feel that the Constitution gives too much decentralized power to the states. They would much prefer a Parliamentary form of government as is found in most European countries along with the European Union's umbrella government over all of them. That is, of course, why the UK seceded from the EU.

I would say (but the leftists will not) that what the progressive left really stands for today is to replace the Constitution of our Republic with European national parliamentary form of government that has controlling power over the states.
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ICU,
it's not "gives too much decentralized power to the states", it's a limit on the federal govt from having to much power.
The states, the original colonies that is, were all actually independent from each other.
Correct context is required.

The progressive left as you describe, have a hopeless task.
Amen. Well stated.

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Keying cars is the latest leftist fad. Only a matter of time before someone gets a well deserved ass beating.
Got source that gives the political breakdown on those people?

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Pure comedy ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Dems and real Republicans believe in democracy. Not the maga dictatorship forming.
The left believes in stopping trumpf.
I can buy most of that.
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Its called intuitive reasoning. Something leftists do not possess. Something connects the dots based on common sense in the back of your mind. Leftists always see zebras when they hear hooves. Zebras being ridden by the Trump cabinet.
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Its called intuitive reasoning. Something leftists do not possess. Something connects the dots based on common sense in the back of your mind. Leftists always see zebras when they hear hooves. Zebras being ridden by the Trump cabinet.
OH! Just missed it!

The ungulate you are looking for: sheeple.
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...The left believes in stopping trumpf.
FTFY: The left believes in stopping trumpf and nothing else.

No charge....
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