Why does the left care so much about foreign criminals?

[tman1847]

"Let me help you with a study in 2024 from a bipartisan institute"


The Brennan Center for Justice at New York University School of Law is a liberal or progressive nonprofit law and public policy institute.

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

"Why does the left care so much about foreign criminals?"

Maybe they just don't know enough about these criminals. In that case, here's a way for them to learn more - up close and in person - with the Adopt a Thug program.

"...If you know anyone who actually supports this lunacy, tell them to adopt a gangbanger for the weekend. Let them really experience the warm, fuzzy criminal justice reform they love so much. Let’s see how long they survive. Could be a fun little experiment…

Learn things like:
How do MS13 gang members earn those tattoos

Or take a deeper dive with them

Now try to tell us they are just misunderstood and need a little coaching again.

But some say it goes upstream, all the way to the OBama-nation. The theory is a bit controversial: Obama’s “Civilian National Security Force”

...Obama delivered a speech in Boulder, Colorado in which he promised the creation and establishment of a "Civilian National Security Force." He further promised it would be "just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded as the US Military."

It is well known amongst dictators, the world over, that a private army is necessary to control the great unwashed masses over which they force their rule. We have seen Obama steadily assume dictatorial powers over apathetic Americans in just three and a half years. He has all but hushed the people's voice in government, the US Congress, by simply by-passing them and ruling by executive order -- just like any other two-bit dictator. Some feel even the US Supreme Court has lost the steel from its collective spine under withering pressure from our budding domestic dictator, Obama. If one did not know better, one would think there is a move afoot to institute a complete Marxist insurgency in America with Obama at the top -- and -- at the leading edge...

Dunno, but the counter theory is OBama meant to leverage/use the existing local police forces. But uhhmmm... could he ever really control all of them, especially to do a bit-o-wet work, which might tend to roil polite society's senses and sensibilities?!? Not that he didn't try to push them around with his gun runner, butt-buddy, Eric Holder.

Perhaps it's a bit of both.

[tman1847]

Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

The only thing dumb about my previous post is me forgetting my brilliant audience in a circle jerk MAGA I hate Democrats silly ass facts deprived thread.

Let me help you with a study in 2024 from a bipartisan institute with a little excerpt below in bold. The study is pretty interesting but most importantly to me, nonbiased because I don't pay attention to partisan bullshit on either side. That's the beauty of being an independent because I don't have a side that I give a shit about. I only care about the person and not the party.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-wo...RoCCFIQAvD_BwE

What’s more, the arrival of record numbers of immigrants at the United States–Mexico border over the past two years has not corresponded with an overall increase in crime in so-called “blue” cities where many of the recent arrivals have settled. In most places, the opposite has happened — crime, including violent crime, has trended downward (other than larceny and a small increase in robbery) after peaking across the country in 2020. This has been true since the spring of 2022, the year Republican governors, including those in Arizona, Florida, and Texas, began transporting undocumented immigrants to cities with more immigrant-friendly policies, including Boston, Chicago, New York, and Washington.



Yeah, yeah, yeah; I was wondering how long it would take a MAGA to try to discredit the source and display his brilliance. LOL

https://www.brennancenter.org/about

As an independent, nonpartisan law and policy organization, the Brennan Center conducts rigorous research to identify problems and provide in-depth empirical findings and compelling analyses of pressing legal and policy issues. We also pioneer and champion policy solutions, such as automatic voter registration and small donor public financing.

And I was wondering how long it would take a phoney independant to show his blue biden colors

[Schwarzer Ritter]

No increase in blue cities....hard to get much higher but now that the institutions are reporting the real numbers crime has gone up extensively in blue cities. Look at the newspapers.

[AllEightUp69]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

The progressive left has lost the major coalition partners the Democratic Party brought together by FDR and LBJ in the 20th Century; various minorities, organized blue collar labor, the socio-economically disadvantaged and so on.

Much of this loss occurred because the progressives ( and so the Democratic Party overall) embraced Big Money, the Hollywood glitterati, Big Tech and the most disturbing component sub-groups of the ever-expanding spectrum of the so-called LGBTQ "Community". Allof that along with discarding tollerance for antisemitism and the death of free speech. The ACLU is not the champion of libertarian freedoms any longer.

This shift in focus is largely abhorrent to the mainstream of American society . . .. those folks who work every day to make a living that will support their nuclear family, whatever their ethnicity, race or faith tradition may be. These folks are becoming lost to the Democratic Party of the 21 Century.

And so, the now progressive Democratic Party has got to find a new constituency. Will that be found in the previously uncontrolled influx from the bottom cut of third world societies? Lets hope not.

I'm sorry I can't let this slide. You need to take your Russian news for dumb fox void of any relative fact and or present topic and make a quick exit. Not only is that all baseless blatant propaganda but at this point it's completely meaningless. Even if it was true which is far far far like light-years from Truth. I don't understand why this forum leaves obvious ad prop for somebody who knows what is really going on to StumbleUpon. It's kind of embarrassing. For the poster in the forum. I'm embarrassed for you.

You know in first world countries where they have legitimate political parties, they stand on their own Merritt. What the opposition says or does is not rolling

[AllEightUp69]

Originally Posted by tman1847

And I was wondering how long it would take a phoney independant to show his blue biden colors

Is that all you've got? You can look at any reputable source and learned that immigrants commit fewer crimes in native Americans and far fewer violent crime free immigration is a net positive to this country...FULL STOP
What "left"? Anyone left of Stalin? I bet you think Hitler was a communist. There is nothing about the Democratic Party policies platform or 95% of each elected officials that is progressive. Nothing. The progressive get oppressed, blocked, leverage out and blackmailed. The two or three dozen that are actually exist. Hell burning has 1 foot on either side of the centerline. We've just been pulled so far to the right everything is an obscured, very slanted view. That in, you don't know what you're talking about .....
They contribute far more taxes than nativeborn citizens between five and 30 times more to state federal and local governments than native born. In essence, they subsidize red states. Who other than two at the moment it's usually zero if you threw a dart over the last hundred years Red states nearly ubiquitously receive more than they contribute. who's gonna subsidize himif the migrants are gone.

[AllEightUp69]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

"Why does the left care so much about foreign criminals?"

Maybe they just don't know enough about these criminals. In that case, here's a way for them to learn more - up close and in person - with the Adopt a Thug program.
Learn things like:
How do MS13 gang members earn those tattoos

Or take a deeper dive with them

Now try to tell us they are just misunderstood and need a little coaching again.

But some say it goes upstream, all the way to the OBama-nation. The theory is a bit controversial: Obama’s “Civilian National Security Force”

Dunno, but the counter theory is OBama meant to leverage/use the existing local police forces. But uhhmmm... could he ever really control all of them, especially to do a bit-o-wet work, which might tend to roil polite society's senses and sensibilities?!? Not that he didn't try to push them around with his gun runner, butt-buddy, Eric Holder.

Perhaps it's a bit of both.

Having a political conversation with most constituents of either tribe but especially the GOP is like reasoning with a toddler. You don't know a damn thing about the real issues in policy so you go off on supposedly witty jackass gibberish like this. Trump is loving the uneducated more and more every day.

[AllEightUp69]

Originally Posted by Schwarzer Ritter

No increase in blue cities....hard to get much higher but now that the institutions are reporting the real numbers crime has gone up extensively in blue cities. Look at the newspapers.

Hell no man. That's not how this works. Either you provide a citation from a credible source, or it's just straw man, intentional ad prop bullshit.

Please, do better.

[Schwarzer Ritter]

I'm operating from a Kindle. I can't do a citation. I can cite a source by name but lefties don't even believe their own common sense if they can help it.

Sharyl Attkission After hours podcast, January 10th 2025

[AllEightUp69]

Originally Posted by tman1847

And I was wondering how long it would take a phoney independant to show his blue biden colors

For some phony yada yada yada? Boy you've got no standing there. First of all we're talking about the Brennan Center for Justice here. Until very recently a completely non-political, non-partisan, advocate of best practice policy no matter the policy. Politics irrelevant. I know this for a fact I have done hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of policy analysis for these people . Proof of non-partisanship comes from the fact that over 80% of the best policy practices were not in place or even proposed by either party in this country. Best policy practices were found elsewhere mostly in social democracy with certain first world high-quality of life society givens. These basic things were socialized. And should be in any country that wants to call itself civilized.

Universal healthcare
High quality public education and earned higher education scholarships
Complete socialization of incarceration
Socialize and provide high-speed fiber Internet access for every person in the sovereign, deemed a public utility
A real investment in public transportation that is renewable powered and citizen not corporate friendly.

In other words, a high-speed rail system that is carefully and thoughtfully integrated with local light rails all powered by renewable sources to make traveling far more convenient and save billions of tons of greenhouse gases being admitted into the atmosphere. In America, now is the time to do it and it would be so economically advantageous and life-changing most have no idea that you can get around the rest of the world without a car faster than you can fly even. Major airports are far from where you wanna go. I've seen studies that under strict statistical analysis using time and ease of travel over 750 million of the 900 million domestic flights in America alone would be eliminated.

In other words, a honest brokerage attempt at good governance representing the people in their best interest. Not allowing the policy, government positions, whether elected or appointed to be bought and sold.

Good governance is making investments with our tax dollars, not expenses. We don't know how to do anything but expenses or we don't hold the powers that be accountable for it if we do. We could start by fulfilling that basic first world society list.

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by AllEightUp69

Hell no man. That's not how this works. Either you provide a citation from a credible source, or it's just straw man, intentional ad prop bullshit.

Please, do better.

... We're discussing ILLEGAL immigrants here.
And WHY the Democrats LOVE them.

Please try to keep up.

#### Salty

[AllEightUp69]

Originally Posted by tman1847

"Let me help you with a study in 2024 from a bipartisan institute"


The Brennan Center for Justice at New York University School of Law is a liberal or progressive nonprofit law and public policy institute.

There's not a damn thing liberal or progressive about it man. It's simply promotes what is called "best policy practice" why do you insist on talking about shit you don't know a damn thing? Just because you say something we should take that as credible? You know that's insulting. And the fact that you just lie Because you know you can't dare let Truth go on interrupted is really sad mostly on the platform.

Are we so fond of totalitarian despotism that actually trying to learn and you know even the remote possibility of implementing best policy practice is some progressive lefty extremist idea? Jesus, good God we're getting exactly the government reserve.

[AllEightUp69]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... We're discussing ILLEGAL immigrants here.
And WHY the Democrats LOVE them.

Please try to keep up.

#### Salty

Yeah let's do that l,!but you need to know something.
Calling your bullshit doesn't make me the ass hat. Take your third grade playground word salad elsewhere. Seriously. If can't approach an exchange from the standpoint of an honest broker, then don't bother.

Again, it's a discussion not a child's bedtime story where you just make shit up as you go. I stand by my statement. Either provide a citation from a credible source or kindly don't waste our oxygen.

[Salty Again]

... Please point out what I said here that's "made up"...

#### Salty

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... Please point out what I said here that's "made up"...

#### Salty

That is also a strawman