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Old 08-12-2021, 12:39 AM   #16
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Biden is a textbook case for the old axiom that you can’t cure stupid.
They installed him because he's a stupid ass that will go along with any agenda no matter what as long as people think he's in charge. When he's done being used he'll be tossed to the curb like garbage. He'll be forgotten ten minutes after he's gone.
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Old 08-12-2021, 07:04 AM   #17
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Lets see stop pipelines drilling here and buy from OPEC , whats wrong with this picture
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Old 08-12-2021, 09:24 AM   #18
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We need to shift away from fossil fuel completely. Renewable engine is the wave of the future whether complete conservatives like it or not, want to admit to it or not.

'We' in the lexicon of teh DPST party - means 'You will obey my directive" - while I, as a DPST nomenklatura - do whatever i want in contrast to what i say You must do


Typical hypocrisy.

Let the liberals Go FIRST!
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Old 08-12-2021, 12:41 PM   #19
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Lets see stop pipelines drilling here and buy from OPEC , whats wrong with this picture

"The picture" rarely gets as clear as this one does. It simply can not be rationally explained.

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Old 08-12-2021, 12:49 PM   #20
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Actually we were never energy independent. oddly, we have the same level of "independence" we had then. Actually probably slightly more.

Well, that did take long!

Nothing to back up your statement. You told me a while back that you were going to start backing up the things you say but you rarely do.

https://www.instituteforenergyresear...me-since-1957/


The United States Was Energy Independent in 2019 for the First Time Since 1957



https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...w-what-098985/


For four decades, whenever the American political debate turned to energy, the discussion was all about shortage and scarcity, a reality that haunted the United States ever since the global oil crises of the 1970s.


That conversation is over.


And now the unconventional energy revolution—newly accessible supplies of shale gas and oil—is creating a new discourse on energy that is changing politics and policies. All of this represents what Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz calls a “new mentality” about America’s energy position, with a new political language to match.


Exactly 40 years ago, in November 1973, President Richard Nixon went on television to promise the American people energy “ independence” within 10 years. Just three weeks earlier, on Oct. 17, 1973, Arab petroleum exporters had instituted an oil embargo to punish the West and, in particular, the United States, for its support of Israel during the Yom Kippur War.
Americans were shocked by the embargo—and by the quadrupling of oil prices that followed. Six years later, the Iranian Revolution toppled the shah, one of America’s closest allies in the Middle East, further disrupting the global oil supply. All this was completely at odds with the pervasive American assumption of abundance that had been shaped by decades and decades of ample supply. As late as World War II, six out of every seven barrels of oil used by the Allies had been exported from the continental United States. In 1973, most Americans did not even know that the United States imported any oil. Given that, many assumed that the price increases caused by the embargo had to be the result of manipulation. It was just hard to accept that global markets could become so vulnerable to disruptions that could send prices spiraling up.


The shortage theory certainly seemed to be borne out by what happened in the decades after 1973. When Nixon made his energy independence speech, the United States was importing 35 percent of its oil. By 2005, it was importing 60 percent. Over the same period, U.S. oil production fell by more than a third. Natural gas output also declined. By 2005, it looked as though the United States was going to become a huge importer not only of oil but also of natural gas in the form of more costly liquefied natural gas (LNG). Nixon’s promise of energy independence became a standard pledge of every succeeding president, but with imports rising, it seemed an ever more distant hope—indeed, even fodder for late-night comedians—not the stuff of political reality.


Then came shale gas and tight oil. Although the technological breakthroughs enabling this production boom occurred from 1998 to 2003, the results did not show up in the numbers until 2008. But it’s now clear that a revolution has occurred: U.S. crude oil production is up 50 percent since 2008. Thanks to that increase, as well as more efficient automobiles, petroleum imports have fallen from their high of 60 percent in 2005 to 35 percent today—exactly what they were in 1973! And as domestic production increases and gasoline mileage improves, imports will continue to go down. North Dakota, the center of the now-famous Bakken Formation shale, has overtaken Alaska and California to become the second-largest oil-producing state in the country, outpaced only by Texas. U.S. natural gas production has increased by nearly a third since 2005, and shale gas has gone from 2 percent of output in 2000 to 44 percent today.




Come on, surprise us, show us anything that backs up your assertion.
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Old 08-12-2021, 12:56 PM   #21
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The title of this post indicates that this is going to be a LONG running thread, because however stupid you think the administration is, they are going to fcuking astound you with worse.

You know like shutting down the Keystone pipeline and then begging OPEC to produce more oil.

If I didn't know better, I'd think they don't understand supply and demand.
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Old 08-12-2021, 03:08 PM   #22
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Well, that did take long!

Nothing to back up your statement. You told me a while back that you were going to start backing up the things you say but you rarely do.

https://www.instituteforenergyresear...me-since-1957/


The United States Was Energy Independent in 2019 for the First Time Since 1957



https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...w-what-098985/


For four decades, whenever the American political debate turned to energy, the discussion was all about shortage and scarcity, a reality that haunted the United States ever since the global oil crises of the 1970s.


That conversation is over.


And now the unconventional energy revolution—newly accessible supplies of shale gas and oil—is creating a new discourse on energy that is changing politics and policies. All of this represents what Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz calls a “new mentality” about America’s energy position, with a new political language to match.


Exactly 40 years ago, in November 1973, President Richard Nixon went on television to promise the American people energy “ independence” within 10 years. Just three weeks earlier, on Oct. 17, 1973, Arab petroleum exporters had instituted an oil embargo to punish the West and, in particular, the United States, for its support of Israel during the Yom Kippur War.
Americans were shocked by the embargo—and by the quadrupling of oil prices that followed. Six years later, the Iranian Revolution toppled the shah, one of America’s closest allies in the Middle East, further disrupting the global oil supply. All this was completely at odds with the pervasive American assumption of abundance that had been shaped by decades and decades of ample supply. As late as World War II, six out of every seven barrels of oil used by the Allies had been exported from the continental United States. In 1973, most Americans did not even know that the United States imported any oil. Given that, many assumed that the price increases caused by the embargo had to be the result of manipulation. It was just hard to accept that global markets could become so vulnerable to disruptions that could send prices spiraling up.


The shortage theory certainly seemed to be borne out by what happened in the decades after 1973. When Nixon made his energy independence speech, the United States was importing 35 percent of its oil. By 2005, it was importing 60 percent. Over the same period, U.S. oil production fell by more than a third. Natural gas output also declined. By 2005, it looked as though the United States was going to become a huge importer not only of oil but also of natural gas in the form of more costly liquefied natural gas (LNG). Nixon’s promise of energy independence became a standard pledge of every succeeding president, but with imports rising, it seemed an ever more distant hope—indeed, even fodder for late-night comedians—not the stuff of political reality.


Then came shale gas and tight oil. Although the technological breakthroughs enabling this production boom occurred from 1998 to 2003, the results did not show up in the numbers until 2008. But it’s now clear that a revolution has occurred: U.S. crude oil production is up 50 percent since 2008. Thanks to that increase, as well as more efficient automobiles, petroleum imports have fallen from their high of 60 percent in 2005 to 35 percent today—exactly what they were in 1973! And as domestic production increases and gasoline mileage improves, imports will continue to go down. North Dakota, the center of the now-famous Bakken Formation shale, has overtaken Alaska and California to become the second-largest oil-producing state in the country, outpaced only by Texas. U.S. natural gas production has increased by nearly a third since 2005, and shale gas has gone from 2 percent of output in 2000 to 44 percent today.




Come on, surprise us, show us anything that backs up your assertion.



Not Happening.

all screech and No substance.
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Old 08-12-2021, 04:22 PM   #23
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https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/...nd-exports.php

I stand corrected. We crossed the net exporter threshold in 2019. But if you look at the production consumption we only shortly exceeded that threshold. So yes we did cross it for a short time. Barely.

I’ll give us 2 thumbs up for that.
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Old 08-12-2021, 06:11 PM   #24
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What does biden want? That we be energy independent? Of course not! What was the first thing he did day one as president? Shut down that pipeline putting thousands of workers out of jobs ..... so now gasoline is 80 cents a gallon higher since Trump left office, the goal being making us more dependent on foreign oil and paying much higher prices ..... I guess he stupidly thinks this will make us crave renewable energy ..... the rise in gas prices has everything to do with biden and his braindead policies .....
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Old 08-13-2021, 08:20 AM   #25
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Russia Nord pipeline ""good"" paying OPEC good ,,Hating Amerkic GOOD
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