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Old 05-07-2020, 09:38 AM   #16
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I get it. A hair salon is a point if sale not a net 30 business but she probably didn’t need the money as bad as she claims. Giving her $500k will only encourage more people to act up. Governors, attorney generals (with felony indictments) and higher government officials should not tell a district judge how the run his court even if he rules his court via ego. She can take her new found wealth and appeal his decision. The whole lot of them are rotten. Every single one of them are media whores.

Like I said. Once the government tries to legislate these issues you get a shit show
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Old 05-07-2020, 10:00 AM   #17
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Just saw where Tx Supreme Court has ordered her released from jail. Put her in jail, but release convicted criminals because the MIGHT get the virus if they stay in jail. Bunch of dumb asses.


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Old 05-07-2020, 10:20 AM   #18
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I get it. A hair salon is a point if sale not a net 30 business but she probably didn’t need the money as bad as she claims. Giving her $500k will only encourage more people to act up. Governors, attorney generals (with felony indictments) and higher government officials should not tell a district judge how the run his court even if he rules his court via ego. She can take her new found wealth and appeal his decision. The whole lot of them are rotten. Every single one of them are media whores.

Like I said. Once the government tries to legislate these issues you get a shit show



Yep! I agree.
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Old 05-07-2020, 11:36 AM   #19
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So.. we're in an uproar about a conservative white woman being jailed for this. One who, by the way, obtained a PPP loan from the SBA during all this. But we're completely silent on the hairdressers down in Laredo who were arrested for doing nail services in their house because they needed to feed their kids and their salon was closed.... guess they're too brown to be good optics on Fox News and GFM.
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Old 05-07-2020, 11:50 AM   #20
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IANAL, so I need some help understanding this. What specific law did she break? If it's the fact that the city got a TRO, then what is the basis for being restrained from conducting a legal business?
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Old 05-07-2020, 11:51 AM   #21
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Yep. They were too brown. I guess the Latino constituents are not really that valuable to the politicians. But if the Dallas Salon owner really believes in her cause I’m sure she will share the $500K plus with the brown ladies in south Texas. After all this is about her crusade for civil liberties right?
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Old 05-07-2020, 11:55 AM   #22
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So.. we're in an uproar about a conservative white woman being jailed for this. One who, by the way, obtained a PPP loan from the SBA during all this. But we're completely silent on the hairdressers down in Laredo who were arrested for doing nail services in their house because they needed to feed their kids and their salon was closed.... guess they're too brown to be good optics on Fox News and GFM.
The Governor didn't ignore them. You have to read down the story a little bit to find it, but he commented that his revised executive order should also allow them to be released.
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/publ...flaws-in-jail/
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Old 05-07-2020, 12:21 PM   #23
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She didn’t just break the law. She all but broke into jail.

She disobeyed the law. Then the police came out and politely told her she was violating the law and that she should stop. She refused and kept violating the law. So she was taken to court. The judge properly ruled that whether the law was wrong of not, it was the law and she had to follow like everybody else. When she was delivered a copy of his order, She tore it up in front of a bunch of TV cameras.

She went out after 1) knowing the law; 2) being taken to court; and 3) being specifically enjoined by the Court; the STILL disobeyed the law.

When she was called back to court, the judge 4) gave her a chance to avoid jail time by apologizing and admitting she had acted selfishly, putting her interests ahead of the community’s. She refused. She did everything but break into jail.

You may not agree with the restrictions Gov. Abbot and Judge Jenkins have ordered. God knows I do. They are far too loose. But that’s the law. And for those really idiotic people that say the governor and the county judge Dint have the authority to make these orders, or that she didn’t violate the law, she violated a court order. And a court order has the force of law. Whether it is for a witness to appear under a subpoena, an order to pay child support, or an order to follow a government regulation. The Court order in this case was to obey rules set by both the Governor and the County Judge.

Specifically, the Court issued an restraining order ordering her not to violate the legal orders of the Governor and the County Judge regarding the spread of COVID-19. The Governor’s orders are authorized under the Texas Disaster Act of 1975 codified as Texas Government Code Section 418. Specifically look at 418.012 and 418.017(a). The County Judge’s order is authorized under Texas Government Code Section 418.108. Both are constitutional exercises of the police power if the State.

If you haBe a problem with the court enfir night he law, your complaint is with the Republican Governor who said that the rules he passed could be enforced by confinement. This morning, the spineless weasel backed down, and amended his rules and eliminated the enforcement mechanism. They’re not rules now, but suggestions. Which is insane. But he’s an idiot, so why is anyone surprised. But he’ll crawl down again in a couple if months when case numbers double and our emergency rooms and hospitals are overwhelmed. Nay be this time, the social distancing regulations will be strict, and not half-assed like they were this time.
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Old 05-07-2020, 12:28 PM   #24
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She didn’t just break the law. She all but broke into jail.

She disobeyed the law. Then the police came out and politely told her she was violating the law and that she should stop. She refused and kept violating the law. So she was taken to court. The judge properly ruled that whether the law was wrong of not, it was the law and she had to follow like everybody else. When she was delivered a copy of his order, She tore it up in front of a bunch of TV cameras.

She went out after 1) knowing the law; 2) being taken to court; and 3) being specifically enjoined by the Court; the STILL disobeyed the law.

When she was called back to court, the judge 4) gave her a chance to avoid jail time by apologizing and admitting she had acted selfishly, putting her interests ahead of the community’s. She refused. She did everything but break into jail.

You may not agree with the restrictions Gov. Abbot and Judge Jenkins have ordered. God knows I do. They are far too loose. But that’s the law. And for those really idiotic people that say the governor and the county judge Dint have the authority to make these orders, or that she didn’t violate the law, she violated a court order. And a court order has the force of law. Whether it is for a witness to appear under a subpoena, an order to pay child support, or an order to follow a government regulation. The Court order in this case was to obey rules set by both the Governor and the County Judge.

Specifically, the Court issued an restraining order ordering her not to violate the legal orders of the Governor and the County Judge regarding the spread of COVID-19. The Governor’s orders are authorized under the Texas Disaster Act of 1975 codified as Texas Government Code Section 418. Specifically look at 418.012 and 418.017(a). The County Judge’s order is authorized under Texas Government Code Section 418.108. Both are constitutional exercises of the police power if the State.

If you haBe a problem with the court enfir night he law, your complaint is with the Republican Governor who said that the rules he passed could be enforced by confinement. This morning, the spineless weasel backed down, and amended his rules and eliminated the enforcement mechanism. They’re not rules now, but suggestions. Which is insane. But he’s an idiot, so why is anyone surprised. But he’ll crawl down again in a couple if months when case numbers double and our emergency rooms and hospitals are overwhelmed. Nay be this time, the social distancing regulations will be strict, and not half-assed like they were this time.



OMG - "She didn’t just break the law. She all but broke into jail." Beautifully said!!!! Thank you!
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Old 05-07-2020, 12:53 PM   #25
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I’m almost exclusively a civil lawyer, but I mostly represent working class clients. Good folks for the most part. But we have our share plus a few that aren’t the sharpest knife in the drawer. And some of those break into jail regularly at the most inopportune times. .
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Yes technically she violated a loosely defined and loosely enforced law and the judge gave her the opportunity to apologize and admit that she was greedy or go to jail. So the question still remains? Did she go to jail for breaking the law or for her contempt or her refusal to apologize and exactly who was she suppose to apologize to? Texas or kissing the judge’s ring?

As usual cases in Dallas County are plagued with politics, agendas and extreme hypocrisy
The very authority that created this “law” waffles back and forth on enforcing it only to cry for public pressure after stripping the egotistical judge of his power. They did not cite the appeal process even if it’s only 7 days.

Ironically Ken Paxton is barking the loudest about “public pressure” as he’s facing his own felony indictments of “alleged securities fraud”.

Speaking of irony this hair dresser / business owner is jailed as over 1,000 convicted criminals or accused inmates (unlike Paxton they were accused, lost their jobs if they had one and await trial in jail) in Dallas County.

Is Susan Hawk out of rehab yet? We could use more chaos and hypocrisy to straighten this mess out. Better yet let’s wait to see what John Wiley Price has to say. Surely the powers that be in Dallas can handle the hairdresser debacle without a national shit show.

She did not get thrown in jail because she broke the law. She was thrown in jail because she didn’t shut her mouth and the judge just didn’t like that. I still think she’s a bitch but she’s a bitch that might walk with a half million as Dallas officials stumble over their own dicks to play politics. In that context I say good for her. She beat the corrupt system. Maybe she will take some of that money and get her nappy hair fixed and you can bet your ass she’s getting a Corvid 19 test just itching at the opportunity to sue Dallas.
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Old 05-07-2020, 01:36 PM   #27
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It's not just Dallas that suffers from politics, agendas and hypocrisy. This is an issue across the US. It is certainly extreme here in Texas. Conservative vs Liberal, city vs rural etc. make for an interesting mix. But this situation with the hair dresser is a special sort of political cluster fuck that's clearly being milked by Paxton and Abbott. This is what you get when the office of Attorney General becomes the stepping stone into politics.
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Old 05-07-2020, 01:43 PM   #28
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Here’s the bottom line.

The hair dresser is a bitch bc she was fully aware of the ban being lifted within a few days and she just had to pour gas on this fire. The judge has a long history of bad decisions and he thinks he’s God and God forbid anyone disagree with him. He should have fined her about $2,500 and not put her in jail as real criminals are being released. That’s insane and reckless.

The governor and attorney general got free air time. What else can you expect from career politicians?
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Old 05-07-2020, 01:58 PM   #29
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Can't comment on the judge. I'm not personally aware of his record. I would suspect that there was some suggested pressure from the city to make an example of her. Putting her in jail for 7 days for contempt seems a bit extreme to me.
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Old 05-07-2020, 02:02 PM   #30
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I'm a Democrat - and putting this lady in jail shows fatally poor judgment. Cite her, fine her, whatever - but don't put the lady in jail (especially after releasing inmates from the county jail due to COVID management.

It's stupid and poor judgment and not good for the community relative to other real crimes.
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