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Old 09-17-2017, 08:28 AM   #16
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Yes I do think we can, I don't know how much if any we have. Pumping chemicals in the air 24 7 can't help the situation. I dont think you can do that forever with no consequences at all. I don't have kids to die in whatever may come so only care a little. If they die they die. You voted for the man that pretty much shot the EPA in the head. If it does prove out you did the same to your kids lol. Trump Jesus!
Sounds like you're talking about volcanoes or maybe raging wild fires started by lightning, jackass. Is what man does or doesn't do going to change the fallout from the next errant meteor extinction event, trey stupido?

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Old 09-17-2017, 08:57 AM   #17
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Deny, deny, deny.

I can't not believe you won't not do it.

But regardless, it's easier to say no than to open your fucking eyes, eh, IBIdiot?
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Old 09-17-2017, 09:06 AM   #18
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The chicken littles have come home to roost...

https://realclimatescience.com/100-o...ata-tampering/


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100% Of US Warming Is Due To NOAA Data Tampering
Climate Central just ran this piece, which the Washington Post picked up on. They claimed the US was “overwhelmingly hot” in 2016, and temperatures have risen 1,5°F since the 19th century.



The U.S. Has Been Overwhelmingly Hot This Year | Climate Central

The first problem with their analysis is that the US had very little hot weather in 2016. The percentage of hot days was below average, and ranked 80th since 1895. Only 4.4% of days were over 95°F, compared with the long term average of 4.9%. Climate Central is conflating mild temperatures with hot ones.



They also claim US temperatures rose 1.5°F since the 19th century, which is what NOAA shows.



Climate at a Glance | National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI)

The problem with the NOAA graph is that it is fake data. NOAA creates the warming trend by altering the data. The NOAA raw data shows no warming over the past century



https://www.climatecentral.org/news/...eat-2016-21003

The first problem with their analysis is that the US had very little hot weather in 2016. The percentage of hot days was below average, and ranked 80th since 1895. Only 4.4% of days were over 95°F, compared with the long term average of 4.9%. Climate Central is conflating mild temperatures with hot ones.



They also claim US temperatures rose 1.5°F since the 19th century, which is what NOAA shows.



https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/time-s...tbaseyear=2000

The problem with the NOAA graph is that it is fake data. NOAA creates the warming trend by altering the data. The NOAA raw data shows no warming over the past century



The adjustments being made are almost exactly 1.5°F, which is the claimed warming in the article.




The adjustments correlate almost perfectly with atmospheric CO2. NOAA is adjusting the data to match global warming theory. This is known as PBEM (Policy Based Evidence Making.)




The hockey stick of adjustments since 1970 is due almost entirely to NOAA fabricating missing station data. In 2016, more than 42% of their monthly station data was missing, so they simply made it up. This is easy to identify because they mark fabricated temperatures with an “E” in their database.




When presented with my claims of fraud, NOAA typically tries to arm wave it away with these two complaints.

They use gridded data and I am using un-gridded data.
They “have to” adjust the data because of Time Of Observation Bias and station moves.
Both claims are easily debunked. The only effect that gridding has is to lower temperatures slightly. The trend of gridded data is almost identical to the trend of un-gridded data.




Time of Observation Bias (TOBS) is a real problem, but is very small. TOBS is based on the idea that if you reset a min/max thermometer too close to the afternoon maximum, you will double count warm temperatures (and vice-versa if thermometer is reset in the morning.) Their claim is that during the hot 1930’s most stations reset their thermometers in the afternoon.

This is easy to test by using only the stations which did not reset their thermometers in the afternoon during the 1930’s. The pattern is almost identical to that of all stations. No warming over the past century. Note that the graph below tends to show too much warming due to morning TOBS.




NOAA’s own documents show that the TOBS adjustment is small (0.3°F) and goes flat after 1990.




https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/img/climat...5_diffs_pg.gif

Gavin Schmidt at NASA explains very clearly why the US temperature record does not need to be adjusted.

You could throw out 50 percent of the station data or more, and you’d get basically the same answers.

One recent innovation is the set up of a climate reference network alongside the current stations so that they can look for potentially serious issues at the large scale – and they haven’t found any yet.




NASA – NASA Climatologist Gavin Schmidt Discusses the Surface Temperature Record

NOAA has always known that the US is not warming.




http://www.nytimes.com/1989/01/26/us...nd.html?src=pm

All of the claims in the Climate Central article are bogus. The US is not warming and 2016 was not a hot year in the US. It was a very mild year.
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Old 09-17-2017, 09:11 AM   #19
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SNICK.
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Old 09-17-2017, 09:22 AM   #20
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Deny, deny, deny.

I can't not believe you won't not do it.

But regardless, it's easier to say no than to open your fucking eyes, eh, IBIdiot?
It's easier for you to open your fucking mouth and suck dick than open your mind to anything other than leftist propaganda.

Keep drinking the koolaid bitch. When are you going to join your boyfriend in the afterlife? Soon I hope.
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Old 09-17-2017, 09:38 AM   #21
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Fuck you faggot.

(Simple, and easily understood by a "man" of your intelligence. On the same level as your thought provoking post, shitheel)
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Old 09-17-2017, 10:19 AM   #22
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Fuck you faggot.

(Simple, and easily understood by a "man" of your intelligence. On the same level as your thought provoking post, shitheel)
DEBUNKED!!!
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Old 09-17-2017, 10:20 AM   #23
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What's the matter koolaid drinker? Missing you boyfriend?
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Old 09-17-2017, 10:30 AM   #24
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What is your point fuckhead?

You've been ragging me about this for years.

Seems that's all you think about. Apparently you, too, have an unhealthy obsession with me.

Tough shit for you.

Sad loser.
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Old 09-17-2017, 10:33 AM   #25
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We won mother fucker. Trump is POTUS for the next 7 plus years. Stupid loser.
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Old 09-17-2017, 10:57 AM   #26
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Did it change, sure
Did we make it change, sure, I am sure we helped.
Is it just the United States, nope
Does it really make a difference if it went up 1 degree in 200 years? nope
Will it drop 1 degree and go back up and drop and go back up? Yep.

Worried about climate change is like worrying that it gets warm in the summer.
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Old 09-17-2017, 11:20 AM   #27
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Did it change, sure
Did we make it change, sure, I am sure we helped.
Is it just the United States, nope
Does it really make a difference if it went up 1 degree in 200 years? nope
Will it drop 1 degree and go back up and drop and go back up? Yep.
Worried about climate change is like worrying that it gets warm in the summer.
I actually agree, cause once we run out of fossil fuels, and that day is coming, we're back to horses.
So perhaps consider when fossil fuels will be depleted.
In the meantime, help a gal learn to ride like a cowgirl.
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Old 09-17-2017, 12:04 PM   #28
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.....once we run out of fossil fuels, and that day is coming, we're back to horses.
... cattle and oxen.

Too bad we don't have dinosaur shit to burn for fuel.
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Old 09-17-2017, 02:39 PM   #29
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... cattle and oxen.

Too bad we don't have dinosaur shit to burn for fuel.
How about your liberal/Nazi bull shit, will it burn?
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Old 09-17-2017, 10:02 PM   #30
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OP is a cum guzzling leftest.

Somebody turns the AC up or down they go into a panic.

No significant weather event in 12 years.

But now a couple of hurricanes... Oh Lawdy!!! Day be a hurry-cane behind anotha! What we gonna does? What we gonna does? Helps me! Ams hasn a CNF (crazy N----r fit)!!!!!
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