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Old 08-05-2017, 03:22 PM   #16
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Just because they have not purged someone who has died, does not mean they are voting.

Are you implying there's some nefarious attempt at voter fraud
We've already established that there is voter fraud -- and that it wasn't Ivanka Trump. It's just a matter of time to establish the degree of voter fraud that is going on.

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Illegal immigrants got fake IDs from Massachusetts motor vehicle workers, feds say

Four employees with the Massachusetts Registry of Motor Vehicles (RMV) have been accused of producing fake IDs for illegal immigrants in exchange for cash.

In October 2015, state police received an anonymous letter alleging that a corrupt RMV clerk was selling stolen identifications and drivers’ licenses, according to the Justice Department.

After investigating, authorities found that a number of RMV clerks, along with outsiders, operated an identity theft scheme

The clerks accused in the case include Evelyn Medina, 56, Annette Gracia, 37, David Brimage, 46, all of Boston, and Kimberly Jordan, 33, of Randolph.

The two non-RMV employees include the alleged document vendor, Bivian Yohanny Brea, 41, of Boston and dealer Rafael R. Bonano, 32, who is also known as "Flako."

The scheme would work like this, according to investigators: Flako, working as a document dealer, would sell a Puerto Rican birth certificate and U.S. Social Security card to Brea, the document vendor, for around $900. Brea would then allegedly sell the stolen identities for more than $2,000 to people looking for valid IDs in the state of Massachusetts.

Brea would then use fake documents and identities to register people to vote in Boston, according to officials. Brea and the client would take the stolen identities to the Haymarket RMV, where the four clerks would allegedly accept cash to issue authentic RMV documents, including state licenses and ID cards.

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Old 08-05-2017, 05:38 PM   #17
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how many people are we talking here?
Well let's see.
A quick look at CA and it shows just over 39 million BY the census bureau's quick facts sheet. So if LA county is having 5mil (iirc) of that 39 mil, and they are 12% over, that equates to almost 700 thousand people REGISTERED that shouldn't.

SF itself by that census data has just under 900 thousand. So at 14% over, that means just over 100k people that shuldn't be there.
AND IMO MOST are illegal invaders.

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Just because they have not purged someone who has died, does not mean they are voting.

Are you implying there's some nefarious attempt at voter fraud
When in a # of cases i know of, people HAVE given proper documentation and had their kin removed, but YEAR AFTER YEAR< they keep re-appearing on the voter rolls, OFTEN as registered Dems (when they've been life long independents or republicans) it certainly SOUNDS LIke there is something nefarious going on..
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Old 08-05-2017, 05:42 PM   #18
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We've already established that there is voter fraud -- and that it wasn't Ivanka Trump. It's just a matter of time to establish the degree of voter fraud that is going on.
It wasn't Ivanka , it was Tiffany.

Yes there have been many many studies showing just how few voter fraud cases there actually are...



https://www.brennancenter.org/analys...ter-fraud-myth


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Wonder how many fell into this FUBAR ?

http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/...ns-now-n746721
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You do realize that Obama made a policy statement that the federal government would not look for voter fraud by illegal immigrants.

There aren't any cases because the head of the government ensured it was never looked for.

There is a video of the head of the NYC election commission saying that there was wide-spread voting fraud in NYC(bussing voters between polling stations), and it was restricted to the poor areas of NYC. He got fired for saying it, and it was never investigated.

Of course there isn't any evidence of voting fraud. There can't be unless it is looked for.
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Old 08-05-2017, 07:04 PM   #21
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Yes there have been many many studies showing just how few voter fraud cases there actually are...

https://www.brennancenter.org/analys...ter-fraud-myth


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"Studies" from institutions funded by the likes of George Soros are relatively meaningless. Read Attkisson's book The Smear for a full explanation of how Soros and his ilk are manipulating the message and creating the illusion of "objective expertise and authority" where there is none.

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This report was prepared by Justice at Stake, the Brennan Center for Justice, and the National Institute on Money in State Politics. Justice at Stake gratefully acknowledges grants from the following organizations in support of the report: .... Open Society Foundations [George Soros] (p. 4/64)

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Melowese Richardson, former poll worker, sentenced for five years on voter fraud charges

CINCINNATI - A long-time poll worker who admitted to illegal voting was sentenced to five years in prison Wednesday and received a rebuke from the judge, who cited her criminal past.

Melowese Richardson, 58, pleaded no contest to four counts of illegal voting in 2009, 2011 and 2012. One count charged her with voting for her sister, who is in a coma. Four other counts were dropped in exchange for Richardson's plea.

.... she voted twice for Odumbo in 2012.

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Old 08-05-2017, 07:17 PM   #22
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Of course there isn't any evidence of voting fraud. There can't be unless it is looked for.
bingo!

there have been several examples of voter fraud that got exposed over the years some of which had signs of possible organized fraud but no one really has looked at the possibility of "organized" voter fraud.

with that over their heads, no one wants to go looking for it.
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Old 08-05-2017, 07:18 PM   #23
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brennan center are myth makers.
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"Studies" from institutions funded by the likes of George Soros are relatively meaningless. Read Attkisson's book The Smear for a full explanation of how Soros and his ilk are manipulating the message and creating the illusion of "objective expertise and authority" where there is none.
As Asswipe the PIG proudly proclaims " Hillary won the popular vote!

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'One prime example of voter fraud was Tim Johnson's election in 2002. A woman was caught red handed gathering voter registrations and falsifying absentee votes from indian reservations in his support.

There was no subsequent investigation to see if it was wide-spread or democratic party sanctioned. Johnson would have lost without her "support". I'd note that the voter fraud aspect is not treated in his wikipedia post(though the indian reservation angle is obtusely disclosed).


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brennan center are myth makers.
So people only believe what they want to believe....
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Old 08-05-2017, 11:00 PM   #27
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So people only believe what they want to believe....
on the democrat side, yes.
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Yes there have been many many studies showing just how few voter fraud cases there actually are...
You do realize that Obama made a policy statement that the federal government would not look for voter fraud by illegal immigrants.

There aren't any cases because the head of the government ensured it was never looked for.

There is a video of the head of the NYC election commission saying that there was wide-spread voting fraud in NYC(bussing voters between polling stations), and it was restricted to the poor areas of NYC. He got fired for saying it, and it was never investigated.

Of course there isn't any evidence of voting fraud. There can't be unless it is looked for.
Exactly. You can't find any if you are not looking for it, and since so many DEM cities are refusing to cooperate with the investigations, it makes you wonder WHY?
Additionally i have read over a dozen down in MS when i was stationed there, but you NEVER ONCE heard that the person caught was actually prosecuted.. So maybe those studies just look at "Who's been charged".. If the powers that be don't charge anyone (cause they don't wanna enforce the law), of course the statisticians won't see any evidence..

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'One prime example of voter fraud was Tim Johnson's election in 2002. A woman was caught red handed gathering voter registrations and falsifying absentee votes from indian reservations in his support.

There was no subsequent investigation to see if it was wide-spread or democratic party sanctioned. Johnson would have lost without her "support". I'd note that the voter fraud aspect is not treated in his wikipedia post(though the indian reservation angle is obtusely disclosed).
I don't remember ever hearing of that. Guess that means she never went to court/got charged with anything.. It got swept under the rug..
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on the democrat side, yes.
Or on the lemming side. LOL
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on the democrat side, yes.


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