Stripper Slide

[Sleepy363]

Originally Posted by TheBizz

Oh, it's tiny.

My point is simply that in the heat of battle it's not difficult to slide a little high, whether it's a few inches in your case or a few centimeters in mine.

Is there a risk of fluid transfer? Of course.. if you're not careful, or if the guy "leaks" a lot, etc, etc.

From your reviews, you like to enjoy DATY and BBBJ. There is a risk with those as well. If you ate popcorn, or just brushed your teeth or did anything that may cause a small cut in your mouth and you DATY a lady, you're at risk. Same for her if she gets a cut or has a sore in her mouth and does BBBJ on you. It's a risk.

My point is that you try to minimize the risk while enjoying the activity, and there IS a way to do that with a stripper slide.

Talking about herpes or genital warts is just a scare tactic though, because as I mentioned, you are just as much at risk of that through sex with a condom as you are via a stripper slide if she has one of those STD's and you don't know it. Same with immediately equating it to BBFS. It's a silly comparison, but it's what gets said every time this topic gets brought up.

As Argus mentioned earlier... every person in this hobby needs to assess their risks and what they are willing to do. If you deem an activity outside of that tolerance, then don't partake in it.

[Guest021812-3]

Saying that you can get herpes and genital warts even with a condom is the exact same argument as I employed comparing SS's to bbfs. The risk is still there, just lessened. The degree to which it is lessened is not easily quantifiable, and it does is no good to go back and forth debating it.

And once again, I'm not judging, I've engaged in SS's on many occasions. Guess it's just a risk I'm willing to take.

[Shackleton]

Originally Posted by still-asleep

Talking about herpes or genital warts is just a scare tactic though, because as I mentioned, you are just as much at risk of that through sex with a condom as you are via a stripper slide if she has one of those STD's and you don't know it. Same with immediately equating it to BBFS. It's a silly comparison, but it's what gets said every time this topic gets brought up.

I don't believe you are correct. Just because there is a chance you can get herpes while wearing a condom during CFS doesn't mean that you are just as much at risk of getting it as you are when getting a stripper slide. You get herpes by contact between the infected skin of your partner and skin in your genital area. The more contact between those two areas (and the more vigorous the contact?), I'd think the greater your risk. There's much more skin to skin contact with a stripper slide than there is in CFS and I'd think a correspondingly greater risk of transmission. I'm not telling you not to do something. It's your business what risk you're willing to take. But, everyone should make their decisions with eyes wide open and not based on wishful thinking.

[Sleepy363]

Originally Posted by Shackleton

I don't believe you are correct. Just because there is a chance you can get herpes while wearing a condom during CFS doesn't mean that you are just as much at risk of getting it as you are when getting a stripper slide. You get herpes by contact between the infected skin of your partner and skin in your genital area. The more contact between those two areas (and the more vigorous the contact?), I'd think the greater your risk. There's much more skin to skin contact with a stripper slide than there is in CFS and I'd think a correspondingly greater risk of transmission. I'm not telling you not to do something. It's your business what risk you're willing to take. But, everyone should make their decisions with eyes wide open and not based on wishful thinking.

You're right. I shouldn't have said it as "just as much at risk", because that's not accurate. But you are still at risk. I think it's around a 20% chance of catching it even with a condom, or at least that is a number that I have seen out there.

[true_whatever]

Appreicate the replies. Good info and insights. Once you know the facts, everyone can make their own personal judgements on risk tolerance.

[Putanna Di Classe]

Originally Posted by Shackleton

I don't believe you are correct. Just because there is a chance you can get herpes while wearing a condom during CFS doesn't mean that you are just as much at risk of getting it as you are when getting a stripper slide. You get herpes by contact between the infected skin of your partner and skin in your genital area. The more contact between those two areas (and the more vigorous the contact?), I'd think the greater your risk. There's much more skin to skin contact with a stripper slide than there is in CFS and I'd think a correspondingly greater risk of transmission. I'm not telling you not to do something. It's your business what risk you're willing to take. But, everyone should make their decisions with eyes wide open and not based on wishful thinking.

+1 this line of reasoning seems valid, and I wan't to throw out one more opinion (MINE!) that SS is priobably more dangerous for the lady than it is for the guy as far as contracting something. Unless she washes the outside of her va-jay-jay thoroughly with soap and water before CFS everything that the male has depositied on the outside of her will get pushed up inside of her. Theoretically she could even get preggo!

Sorry to be so, ummmm, graphic

We do all have our line to draw as far as risk in the hobby. I am glad to see that I'm not the only one that draws that line at/before (however you put it...lol...it's not on my menu) the SS.

Happy hobbying everybody!

[theking]

I feel like these sorts of debates just stir up trouble.

What does any of this matter?

If a guy or girl want to engage in bbfs, then that's their deal. If a guy and girl want to engage in SS, then that's their deal. If a guy and girl want to get in full body condoms suits, then that's their deal. If a guy and girl want to remain totally abstinent, then that's their deal.

The fact is, just by hobbying you are at a higher risk than people who don't hobby. If you don't like the risk, then don't hobby.

It's real simple: if you're sucking or fucking, then you're at risk for contracting something, regardless. If you don't want the risk, then don't suck or fuck.

The hypocrisy around here gets me sometimes. People are all pissed off that politicians and police try to regulate what they can do with their sex lives, but then you come on here, and you still find that everyone is trying to regulate what everyone else is doing with their sex lives. "He did what with whom?! Grab the pitch forks. Let's get 'em!"

Moreover, I can almost guarantee that 95% of the providers and hobbyists that rally in these sorts of threads actively engage in activities that they burn other people at the stake for... because, we're all honest here about what goes on behind closed doors, right? Right? Guys? Right? I mean, come on, what's the world coming to when you can't trust totally anonymous people on the internet who may or may not have an agenda? And of course, it goes without saying that providers are shining examples of truth and honesty.

People will do what people will do, and it's none of anyone's business.

[Guest021812-3]

Nobody has burned anybody for anything. Every post on this thread has been civil, and everybody has taken care to explain that they're not judging, nor condemning anybody for the activities they engage in.

Having a dialogue about the risks we all know are inherent in this hobby is constructive when done the right way. Nothing wrong with informing and educating each other.

I do agree with your sentiments, however, I just feel they are misplaced in the context of this particular thread.

[grnhrn]

It's interesting how with such analytical logic we discuss and say what is safe, not safe, what we'll do and not do.
However, in the heat of the moment and the little head takes over, we generally do what feels good.

[elgato111]

Hobbying is a risk for all parties, guy and girl. Like most on this thread have said it all depends on what amount of risk you are willing to take with a provider or even your SO, who may or may not be having sex with someone other than you.

As stated before, in the heat of the moment sometimes the little head takes over and all reasoning goes out the window because it just feels so good at the moment. By the time hindsight comes into play it is too late to worry about it.

[Putanna Di Classe]

Originally Posted by TheBizz

Nobody has burned anybody for anything. Every post on this thread has been civil, and everybody has taken care to explain that they're not judging, nor condemning anybody for the activities they engage in.

Having a dialogue about the risks we all know are inherent in this hobby is constructive when done the right way. Nothing wrong with informing and educating each other.

I do agree with your sentiments, however, I just feel they are misplaced in the context of this particular thread.

I agree. This thread is a civil exchage of information so there is no need to come in here with phasers set to kill and blasting people.

Some providers and hobbyists would rather not schedule with someone that actively seeks out or advertises SS because that would indicate they are engaging in it frequently. Of course we realize that almost everyone does it with their SO or a few "in the heat of the moment" slip ups.

I don't think the OP meant this thread to get anyone riled up...just trying to find like minded people to play with!

[npita]

Originally Posted by Hobbyfun

I'm just saying if the girl offers SS I think I will pass, but doesn't this activity hurt the girls with the men that don't want to take the extra risk of some bareback stripper slide.

Then you might as well stop hobbying.

[Blurr 7]

I don't really see the point of this thread. With all the information available on this board I sure the OP can find providers who are up to his standard of safety. Maybe just look for CBJ only providers.

[Putanna Di Classe]

Originally Posted by npita

Then you might as well stop hobbying.

I call B.S. Also why is everybody so defensive? Can't we all just get along?

There of plenty of ladies he can hobby with that do not offer SS. I can only assume they are not posting here because for starters the fear that the thread will devolve into a pissing match and second publicly announcing that they do not do SS may be bad for biz. They would rather let you find out after you have left the donation on the counter.

But more on topic IMO it is still more risky than a bbbj, at least for the ladies, as per the reasons I mentioned earlier. When I get home I may search around for statistics on SS dangers to men VS dangers to women and see what can be found.

Happy Hobbying!

[theking]

Originally Posted by theking

I feel like these sorts of debates just stir up trouble.

Why does any of this matter?

I reiterate the above.