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03-12-2011, 10:11 AM
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sure joe.
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03-12-2011, 12:35 PM
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That's ok, SillyGirl. I liked it.
http://pwencycl.kgbudge.com/T/r/Tripartite_Pact.htm
The diplomacy between Japan and Germany was sketchy at best, but when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, Hitler honored his commitment and declared war on the United States. Their two governments did mutually support each other during the war, at least generally.
I think what I would have asked if I had been in Sillygirls shoes (sorry baby but I'd rather be in your pants) for her second post is "What? Too soon?"
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03-12-2011, 05:22 PM
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Show some class & heart pluss dem japs gave us sushi
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03-12-2011, 06:24 PM
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Show some class & heart pluss dem japs gave us sushi
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and Pokemon
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03-12-2011, 10:15 PM
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Sillygirl, that was rude, insensitive, and hysterical! I love how your mind works! Gallows humor, while appearing insensitive, is actually a fairly benign way to handle tragedy.
Besides, everyone knows that it wasn't Japan's alliance with Hitler, or the wrath of God that caused the earthquake, it is the approach of Planet X (Niburu).
And all our prayers are with the people of Japan, and others affected by the tsunami. We may need their prayers before too long. The New Madrid fault is likely the next to go.
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03-13-2011, 05:24 AM
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Godwin's Law right of the bat? Whew!
I'm really shocked by what happened in Japan. It's Japan's 9/11 in a way. And it might even get worse if they have a meltdown at a nuclear power plant.
Even so, my first thought when hearing about the nuclear power plant leaks after the tsunami was Godzilla. Sorry, I can't help it.
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03-13-2011, 06:45 AM
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you cant compare what happened in japan and 911..not even close to the same events. other than innocent people involved.
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03-13-2011, 05:45 PM
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9/11 comparison not the same??? Totally different, of course.
But if those nuclear reactors have total meltdown, this sad tragedy may
place those poor folks in a totally unique class of their own.
Very, very sad and troubling
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03-13-2011, 05:49 PM
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I think God just doesn't like anime.
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03-13-2011, 06:10 PM
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And bukkake. But that's a different kind of flood.
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03-13-2011, 09:02 PM
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Hold on a minute and think about this
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Originally Posted by MsElena
..... Japan didn't back Hitler.....
.......If that's true, then the white people should be paying 10 fold for what they did to the Native American Indians.
Reasonable thinking .......
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Not reasonable thinking at all.
For this discussion I am not talking about the recent disaster. That is another discussion; this thread started with "it breaks my heart". The pain of anyone should break our hearts.
Before we start any discussion of history, one should study history. The world is a different place than it was 70 years ago, much different. Our relationships with each other (race) is much different. The global economy is much different. Let's all of us not make the mistake of taking past events and applying them to the present day, without understanding the past. The emotions of the past are simply not understood by most people who have not read the history presented by the viewpoint of another nation or people.
By reading, I mean just that: get a book a read it. Forget the web searches, and forget the TV presentations of history, which is slanted. An understanding of Hitler can come with the reading his book (he makes some good points and you find yourself saying yes, yes, yes, hay wait a minute that next point doesn't sound right, no that isn't right). Likewise read about the role of the American Indian in the Revolutionary War: realize that their role with the white man was longer at 1776 that from 1776 to 2011 (284 years vs 235 years, and I am not counting the times before 1492 with other contacts. Columbus was a late comer but that is a different thread). If you don't like to read, take a day trip to Oklahoma (also in NC) so see the stage play "Trail of Tears".
In the Marine Corps I took some courses on Asian history; even from a military viewpoint it is much different that I had concluded before taking the courses.
Today, the world is much different than WWII; we are much more dependent upon each other. We all need a little kindness, and a lot of love.
JR
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03-13-2011, 09:03 PM
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I know I'm going to hear about it but it was a liberal comment comparing 9/11 and what happened in Japan. Remember how we did, and still, hear that 9/11 was an accident of some sort and not an act of murder by evil people? What happened in Japan was a part of nature. It was not evil or good, it makes no judgment, it just happens. I recall that China has some nasty earthquakes within the last decade. Which makes me think; did China suffer a Tsunami? Why haven't we heard about it. Granted Japan settled China from most of the force but all of Japan moved and China is so close. I don't know if the remark by Silly Girl was a poor timed remark but I'll leave it that. So I suggest two things; that maybe you take some of your hobby money and make donation to the relief fund and think about what you may need to do if anything like this disruption happened over here.
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03-13-2011, 10:38 PM
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Joke?
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Say it with me now everyone................JOKE.
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Over 10,000 dead, millions without power, water, food. More aftershocks, smaller tsunanis still possible, nuclear meltdown maybe as well. Oh yeah,
ROTFLMAO!!!
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03-13-2011, 10:51 PM
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Not reasonable thinking at all.
Before we start any discussion of history, one should study history. The world is a different place than it was 70 years ago, much different. Our relationships with each other (race) is much different. The global economy is much different. Let's all of us not make the mistake of taking past events and applying them to the present day, without understanding the past. The emotions of the past are simply not understood by most people who have not read the history presented by the viewpoint of another nation or people.
By reading, I mean just that: get a book a read it. Forget the web searches, and forget the TV presentations of history, which is slanted. An understanding of Hitler can come with the reading his book (he makes some good points and you find yourself saying yes, yes, yes, hay wait a minute that next point doesn't sound right, no that isn't right). Likewise read about the role of the American Indian in the Revolutionary War: realize that their role with the white man was longer at 1776 that from 1776 to 2011 (284 years vs 235 years, and I am not counting the times before 1492 with other contacts. Columbus was a late comer but that is a different thread). If you don't like to read, take a day trip to Oklahoma (also in NC) so see the stage play "Trail of Tears".
In the Marine Corps I took some courses on Asian history; even from a military viewpoint it is much different that I had concluded before taking the courses.
Today, the world is much different than WWII; we are much more dependent upon each other. We all need a little kindness, and a lot of love.
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JR,
You failed to quote me accurately. When I typed,"reasonable thinking huh?" you obviously failed to realize the sarcasm with that sentence.
When I typed the sentence, "Japan didn't back Hitler" from the history books I've read, that was a correct sentence. The last book I read about history was Gerhard Weinberg's Germany, Hitler, and World War II. Interesting book.
As for the Trail of Tears, my ancestors lived it and I know that history very well. I don't need books for that, I have the stories that have been passed on through each generation.
Vito,
Some people have a dark sense of humor, but this one isn't a joking matter. I don't care who you are, to make a joke of this situation makes people think you have no compassion towards the hardships of others.
I just saw a story of how people who were looking down on a what happened in their area and they noticed how a car was moving around a little. This was 20 hours after everything happened and after they got a closer look, there were three elderly people in that car who had been trapped. They got them out and they were OK. Thank God.
Now they're bracing for another tsunami? God help them.
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03-14-2011, 02:50 AM
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9/11 comparison not the same??? Totally different, of course.
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Not so fast. The one thing that we can compare apples-to-apples is the body count. In that regard, the destruction from the 9.0 earthquake that hit Japan is WORSE. Estimates put it at two to three times the number of people killed on 9/11.
Obviously, one is a natural disaster and one is an attack. Obviously. But to the people of Japan I doubt it matters how their loved ones died as much as if they died. Put another way, would you rather trade the body count of 9/11 for Japan's death toll? Would you feel better if 9,000 Americans died on 9/11 due to an earthquake instead of ~3000 due to a terrorist attack? What if one of those additional 6000 was one of your loved ones?
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