Squirting

[Austin Ellen]

Thank you all - I'm just trying to figure this out because I cannot squirt. That's why I asked my doctor about it. I've even tried drinking lots of water - nope, not gonna happen.

[OralPassion]

Ya Toyz, I had the same initial reaction, kind of a biased workshop.
It's a bit like me, a smoker, trying to tell a non-smoker that something they're doing is bad for them, but...


Anyone who believes, without question, whatever a Doctor says, well, how sad…

As with any profession, a Doctor is simply regurgitating what he/she learned in the past.
Information/knowledge is constantly evolving and a Doctor’s opinion on any topic is only as good as the most recent studying he/she has done on a topic.

A Doctor who hasn’t studied a given topic in over 10 years will have a different belief than a Doctor who has read the most recent publications on said topic.
Assemble a group from academia and ask them a few questions – you’ll get different answers.

There was a time when the Earth was, without question, flat.
Anyone using words like ‘definitely’ in this discussion is living a life of ignorance.
What is truth today may not be truth tomorrow.

There currently is no absolute proof, one way or the other.
The American Medical Association represents fewer than half the Doctors in this Country – it is by no means a final authority.
Different Doctors say different things.
Different lab experiments have different results.

Ellen, you should settle this yourself.
Pee on a white cloth and in a clear glass.
Squirt on a white cloth and in a clear glass.
Compare the two and come to your own conclusion.

The truth is not out there (yet) – only differing opinions.

[OralPassion]

Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

...I cannot squirt...

Bummer, I hadn't read that prior to my last post.
Hopefully you'll be able to someday.

But you raise an interesting question for those who insist that squirting is peeing.
I you can't squirt, and squirt is just pee, then you can't pee, hmmm...

[Austin Ellen]

No sweetie, I can pee - but I can't pee on other people. I have to go in the bathroom. I guess you could say - I have a shy bladder.

Originally Posted by OralPassion

Bummer, I hadn't read that prior to my last post.
Hopefully you'll be able to someday.

But you raise an interesting question for those who insist that squirting is peeing.
I you can't squirt, and squirt is just pee, then you can't pee, hmmm...

[Austin Ellen]

I agree. That's why I asked if someone had a doctor I could go to - board certified - that could state otherwise. It's always a good idea to get another opinion from another doctor to compare.

Originally Posted by OralPassion

Ya Toyz, I had the same initial reaction, kind of a biased workshop.
It's a bit like me, a smoker, trying to tell a non-smoker that something they're doing is bad for them, but...


Anyone who believes, without question, whatever a Doctor says, well, how sad…

As with any profession, a Doctor is simply regurgitating what he/she learned in the past.
Information/knowledge is constantly evolving and a Doctor’s opinion on any topic is only as good as the most recent studying he/she has done on a topic.

A Doctor who hasn’t studied a given topic in over 10 years will have a different belief than a Doctor who has read the most recent publications on said topic.
Assemble a group from academia and ask them a few questions – you’ll get different answers.

There was a time when the Earth was, without question, flat.
Anyone using words like ‘definitely’ in this discussion is living a life of ignorance.
What is truth today may not be truth tomorrow.

There currently is no absolute proof, one way or the other.
The American Medical Association represents fewer than half the Doctors in this Country – it is by no means a final authority.
Different Doctors say different things.
Different lab experiments have different results.

Ellen, you should settle this yourself.
Pee on a white cloth and in a clear glass.
Squirt on a white cloth and in a clear glass.
Compare the two and come to your own conclusion.

The truth is not out there (yet) – only differing opinions.

[Lena Duvall]

Some people are really invested in the notion that sex workers don't have the capacity for complex thought. *yawns*

The whole second portion of my initial post in this thread links to an abstract by way of The National Center for Biotechnology Information, which is part of the United States National Library of Medicine, a branch of the National Institutes of Health.

But carry on half-reading and perpetuating ignorance...

Originally Posted by Lena Duvall

This abstract isn't from the American Medical Association, but was included on The National Institutes of Health's PubMed search engine.

Researchers Sharon Moalem and Joy S. Reidenberg show:

"Analysis of this secretion (also known as 'female ejaculate'), and comparison with pre-coital urine from the same women, revealed that its composition was unlike urine and often contained components also found in male seminal fluid (minus the sperm). The female ejaculate had lower levels of creatinine, but had elevated levels of prostate specific antigen, prostatic acidic phosphatase, prostate specific acid phosphatase, and glucose."

[Toyz]

Originally Posted by OralPassion

Ya Toyz, I had the same initial reaction, kind of a biased workshop...


Anyone who believes, without question, whatever a Doctor says, well, how sad…

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No truer words have ever been spoken. hence why we see the remarkable number of people who die by misdiagnoses each year.

And again, to my all time ATF...it was not normal how wet she got...bed was literally soaked...my stomach covered...and it was a virtually tasteless clear liquid with zero odor...she just got wet and it was more than "moist" I KNOW she was "squirting", but my cawk was always inside so I never saw it LOL

Damn I miss her...

[Lena Duvall]

I was in a relevant place as you're currently in Ellen. Up until several months ago, I was pretty sure I could not squirt mainly because I hadn't squirted thus far. And then I had a session which included intense and prolonged G-spot stimulation with a toy, as well as lots of clitoral stimulation. This went on for about fifteen minutes then next thing, I was squirting up a storm much to my surprise and amusement. The times that I've squirted since over the past few months required much less. My theory is I've cultivated my emotional memory in that regard, and let go of my hang up and misconception that I couldn't squirt.

Getting the advice of a medical professional makes sense. And also the reality is there are lot of MDs who do spread fallacious information regarding women's sexual matters based on their own bias and outdated information. And even when attempting to look up publicly available research, depending on the dates of publication or the source, some folks conflate squirting with urinary incontinence, whereas others assert that urine and female ejaculate do indeed have different compositions.

Anyhoo, best of luck with your journey!

Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

Thank you all - I'm just trying to figure this out because I cannot squirt. That's why I asked my doctor about it. I've even tried drinking lots of water - nope, not gonna happen.

[saustin]

Originally Posted by TemptationTammie

From Wikipedia...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation
Female ejaculation is the expulsion of fluid by the paraurethral ducts through and around the human female urethra during or before an orgasm. It is also known colloquially as squirting or gushing,[1] although these are considered to be different phenomena in some research publications.[2] The exact source and nature of the fluid continue to be a topic of debate among medical professionals, which is also related to doubts over the existence of the G-spot.

That same wiki cites that "One source states that Skene's glands are capable of excreting 30–50 ml (1–2 US fl oz) in 30–50 seconds" - not a significant volume.

[sue_nami]

I recently did a fetish session wth a skeptic. I first did a golden shower on him. Then FBSM with squirt show where I squirted on him. He could tell the difference easily and he is no longer a skeptic. . I'll put my money where my mouth is, if you get a fetish session with me to prove the. Difference between pee and squirt and you can't tell the difference, I will refund the cost of the fetish session ($200 hour) but ONLY if you can't tell the difference when up close and personal with a true squirter. I will say the reason there are no AMA studies is they are in the firmly deep in the pockets of big pharm and there is more money in telling women they are broke and need fixing than letting a woman be herself and squirt with no meds or surgery needed to FIX HER.

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by sue_nami

I will say the reason there are no AMA studies is they are in the firmly deep in the pockets of big pharm and there is more money in telling women they are broke and need fixing than letting a woman be herself and squirt with no meds or surgery needed to FIX HER.

That's pure bullshit.....

[OralPassion]

Hey Sue, pretty funny how truth can be so painful to some, eh?

Whispers, lemme guess, you're a doctor, or maybe a pharmaceutical executive.

The fact is, western medicine is all about selling drugs and pays very little attention to actual healing.
Doctors don't heal, they push drugs to mask symptoms, then more drugs to deal with all the side-effects.
The vast majority of ailments one sees a doctor for, can be dealt with without introducing toxins marketed by the pharmaceutical industry, into ones body, which frequently do more harm than good, and lead to other ailments for which more toxins are prescribed.

America has become a nation of pill-poppers, believing without question whatever the drug marketers advertise.
Ticker-tape numbers are the driving force of the industry - not actual good health.

[onebigjohn72]

I happily offer my services to run a fairly scientific study within our own community.

Asparagus! Once consumed digestion begins and the vegetable's sulfurous amino acids break down into smelly chemical components in all people. And because those components are "volatile," meaning airborne, the odor wafts upward as the urine leaves the body and can be detected as soon as 15 minutes after you eat this spring delicacy. But only about one-quarter of the population appears to have the special gene that allows them to smell those compounds. So the issue isn't whether or not your pee is smelly; it's whether you're able to smell it.

The study would be for each lady to consume delightful Asparagus prepared by me (I was a certified chef) and then we will get you to orgasm on my face and using my very special smell gene will let you know if it is Urine as detected by the Asparagus smell or if I do not smell it we may then conclude that it is definitely ejaculatory fluids.

I will offer this incredible gift to a select group of ladies who MUST know the truth!!

[BiancaBonVivant]

Whether it's pee or not, it's completely fucking normal and we all need to stop telling women how their bodies should function.

[JadeRose]

Originally Posted by BiancaBonVivant

Whether it's pee or not, it's completely fucking normal and we all need to stop telling women how their bodies should function.

Plus being squirted on is an amazing experience if you haven't done it!!