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Old 01-22-2011, 07:33 AM   #16
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Threads on this topic tend to degenerate into opportunities for the expression of phony outrage.
Outrage, yes, but "phony"?
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Old 01-22-2011, 07:49 AM   #17
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Outrage, yes, but "phony"?
In all honesty, I think most of the outrage, phony or not, amounts to taking the opportunity to do a little self promoting to the providers. Something I’ve noted that some members are not averse to doing.
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Old 01-22-2011, 08:30 AM   #18
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In all honesty, I think most of the outrage, phony or not, amounts to taking the opportunity to do a little self promoting to the providers. Something I’ve noted that some members are not averse to doing.
I stand by the following:

BBFS = Crazy, dangerous, irresponsible within the community
BBBJ = Thankfully pretty damn common

I await anyone to make the argument that it isn't crazy to go bareback in a community formed specifically for having sex with each other.

I await anyone to make the argument that it isn't dangerous to go bareback in a community formed specifically for having sex with each other.

I await anyone to make the argument that it isn't irresponsible to go bareback in a community formed specifically for having sex with each other.

My comments are intended by me to be taken by provider and hobbyist alike. When I'm going down on a provider, I'd like to have it be the case that she hasn't increased my risk by going bareback with other clients.

Does it happen though?

Sure.

Do people drink in excess and drive at high speed down busy roads?

Sure.

It isn't "phony" to say that people ought not to drink in excess and drive. The occasional time I've drank and driven, I know I've behaved in a crazy, dangerous and irresponsible manner. That doesn't mean I ought to start encouraging others to behave that way.
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Old 01-22-2011, 08:56 AM   #19
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Threads on this topic tend to degenerate into opportunities for the expression of phony outrage. It exists whether you like it or not. If you don’t like it, don’t do it. It’s as simple as that.
That is the best post I have EVER seen on this board! Get out the soapboxes LOL! What he is referring to is that this topic, like others, is easy for people to grandstand on. It is just one of those topics that is pretty self explanatory. DO we really need to make our points? Everyone knows BB is crazy.
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Old 01-22-2011, 08:58 AM   #20
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Except it's not that simple GP.

When I'm going down on a provider, I'd like to have it be the case that she hasn't increased my risk by going bareback with other clients.
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It is like telling an adult not to touch the stove.
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Old 01-22-2011, 09:53 AM   #22
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This is a great post. Very much common sense and hopefully your message will reach others. I also have been in this community for a long while and I hope to continue in a safe manner for all of us.

As was said on the old TV show Hill Street Blues - " LET'S BE SAFE OUT THERE "
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Old 01-22-2011, 09:53 AM   #23
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More like, "Hey, I'll be touching that stove later, please make sure you've turned all the burners off when you're done making your soup."
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Old 01-22-2011, 10:26 AM   #24
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Bob, some of this is simple some not. As a client all you can do is keep your tool covered. We can screen providers up to a point. We can’t screen their SOs. I’m pretty sure everyone is bare backing someone. What if the SO is a bi-sexual male who engages in unprotected sex? Or an I.V. substance abuser? How could you know? And believe it or not, there is a dark side to “Hookerlandia” or “Eland”. Not every provider “LOVES WHAT THEY DO”. And some of them actually self medicate in a very unsafe manner to treat their ambivalence. Can we screen for that, not easily. All we can do is weigh the risks against the benefits and take our chances.
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Bob, some of this is simple some not. As a client all you can do is keep your tool covered. We can screen providers up to a point. We can’t screen their SOs. I’m pretty sure everyone is bare backing someone. What if the SO is a bi-sexual male who engages in unprotected sex? Or an I.V. substance abuser? How could you know? And believe it or not, there is a dark side to “Hookerlandia” or “Eland”. Not every provider “LOVES WHAT THEY DO”. And some of them actually self medicate in a very unsafe manner to treat their ambivalence. Can we screen for that, not easily. All we can do is weigh the risks against the benefits and take our chances.
That is the best post I have EVER seen on this board!

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Great posts Jokacz!
Everyone gets all excited when there's a thread regarding BBFS.
Some guys are going to ask for BBFS. Here's some news... BBFS is GREAT! It really is f'ing great. Guys will get irrational and request it. It's like getting the keys to Ferrari but you can't take it over 55 mph.
Of course, we should all know better as well as the few providers who offer such services. In our demographic, BBFS can have disastrous consequences to our community. We know this. Now take a deep breath and relax.
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Old 01-22-2011, 04:56 PM   #27
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BBFS? I wouldn't last 30 seconds, lol. Tuck it under the cover thanks.
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Old 01-22-2011, 10:27 PM   #29
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SOs of other providers are definitely a concern at all times. Wrap it up!!!!!!!! Which color would you like?? Blue, gold, yellow purple polka dot .....................
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I should have clarified...no I meant BBFS
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She probably meant BBBJ but in light of the BBFS yeah it's NOT an uncommon request and it is sickening when I hear from those guys saying So and so and so and so and so and so did it why won't you?

Really??

I am so sorry you got bombarded with unsafe requests! Shame on ALL of you that tried!! And please do NOT try to see me!!
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