Where Have All The Gentleman Gone?

[Iron Butterfly]

IB

[Still Looking]

Originally Posted by BiancaBonVivant

Close-knit hobby boards have always been prone to ungentlemanly conduct and behaviors, and Eccie is no different than any other board in that respect. They will go through phases of worse trolls and better administration, but at the end of the days and weeks and months and years, hobby boards are bad for providers and hobbyists who read them too much. I've avoided aspd and eccie this long for that reason. While they may be useful for advertising and infoshare, they are not healthy environments for anyone, generally speaking. You have to be a certain kind of ruthless to handle these places, and most people are not made of that kind of grit. There's no net benefit to playing along with the flame wars on the boards, so I'm not sure why so many people get so involved. However, the anthropologist in me is still going to read every word.

Every board has their own Still Looking, every board has their own Whispers, and every board has their own Psycho Marine. Without fail.

Always trust the Injustice 'cause it's not going away.
/real

You're welcome!

[mrhappysf]

There's some still here - just don't post too much or too loudly so tend not to be noticed. It does seem like a lot of the guys harbor some heavy resentment or dislike for women lately. Don't understand why but there are nicer guys out there who do appreciate and respect the women who are able to be in this line of work.

[RALPHEY BOY]

just look at Monkey Mans post.. he is bashing this poor lady for being 15 min late?... wants to run her out of town...for what many of us Sr Mongers think its rather amusing and fruitless.. all he did was Self Alert himself to just the examples you are concerned with...

[Jeffrey Spaulding]

I always treat the ladies ( you notice I don't marginize them calling them provider) with respect and courtesy. Me experience has been a trust from both sides that results in a benifcial relationship for each.. She has a regular and I more often than not get MUCH more than the other guys who are disrespectful.

[Still Looking]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey Spaulding

I always treat the ladies ( you notice I don't marginize them calling them provider) with respect and courtesy. Me experience has been a trust from both sides that results in a benifcial relationship for each.. She has a regular and I more often than not get MUCH more than the other guys who are disrespectful.

And you know this ... how???

[BiancaBonVivant]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey Spaulding

I always treat the ladies ( you notice I don't marginize them calling them provider) with respect and courtesy.

You don't marginalize me by referring to my job title. Recognizing that this is my job, just like any other, is probably the first step in *not* marginalizing sex workers. We use the term "provider" here and elsewhere because "escort" has been outed, and it carries a very low negative connotation, if any at all. I have seen the term in use for well over a decade, and in that time I personally haven't seen men call women "provgars" or something weird--what would that word even look like?

Although I *totally* want to tattoo "LADY" on my knuckles, the word "lady" does come with a lot of baggage, and its history puts women in a place *in relation to* men, not in their own solvent world. A "lady" is a passive object. If anything, the strongest connotations we have of "provider" are as a synonym for "breadwinner," which, when we get into the etymology, is a hell of a lot more respectful of a term than "lady."

My intent is not to disparage "lady" (I like the word, I call myself a lady, I say "ladies," to groups of women because it is polite). I simply want to show you that if what you intend to do is respect us through language, you'll need to know more about your language.

"Provider" is not a dirty word.

[Jeffrey Spaulding]

Weii excuse for being a gentleman. .the term lady in my generation Means's respect the title on this thread was were have the gentleman gone. You my dear we a lady first. Everything else is just a job. Change jobs you will still be a lady

[Jeffrey Spaulding]

Originally Posted by Still Looking

And you know this ... how???

Obviously you didn't read the post

[BiancaBonVivant]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey Spaulding

Weii excuse for being a gentleman. .the term lady in my generation Means's respect the title on this thread was were have the gentleman gone. You my dear we a lady first. Everything else is just a job. Change jobs you will still be a lady

As I said, I have no objections to the word "Lady," the point of my post was to explain that "provider" is a respectful term. You completely ignored my wholly valid point, a point I made because you very specifically drew attention to the language you use to describe us. So long as you only care about your own points, a prudent person would hesitate to describe you as a gentleman.

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey Spaulding

I always treat the ladies ( you notice I don't marginize them calling them provider) with respect and courtesy. Me experience has been a trust from both sides that results in a benifcial relationship for each.. She has a regular and I more often than not get MUCH more than the other guys who are disrespectful.

Providers, hookers, whores or prostitutes... It is what THEY chose to become.

Ladies? Not everyone is a lady just as not every guy here is a Gentleman.

But how they are treated here on this board where often the real issues of the profession and what clients can expect for their hard earned money is discussed is way too often confused with how they get treated in person.

You are sadly mistaken in the belief that you get much more for your attitude than the worst of the worst here that spend money. The amount you spend and the frequency you repeat has far more bearing than anything you have to say here.

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by Still Looking

And you know this ... how???

Trust her SL... She knows.....

[gfejunkie]

Originally Posted by Whispers

Providers, hookers, whores or prostitutes... It is what THEY chose to become.

Ladies? Not everyone is a lady just as not every guy here is a Gentleman.

But how they are treated here on this board where often the real issues of the profession and what clients can expect for their hard earned money is discussed is way too often confused with how they get treated in person.

You are sadly mistaken in the belief that you get much more for your attitude than the worst of the worst here that spend money. The amount you spend and the frequency you repeat has far more bearing than anything you have to say here.

How would you know? You've never been anything but a horse's ass on the boards. Well, except during the Christmas season tax dodge scam.

Every human being, no matter their gender, deserves to be treated with politeness and respect until they prove they don't.

Something you do with every post.

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by gfejunkie

How would you know? You've never been anything but a horse's ass on the boards.

I've been the same guy since 2000 on ASPD with the same opinions and it has never interfered in my ability to see the ones I choose to see.

I wrote a few hundred reviews before arriving in Austin and finding wusses like you that threaten to not see ladies or interfere in their business if they see guys like me.

Austin is unique in the way whores and mongers alike seek to influence others.

[mastermind238]

Originally Posted by Whispers

I've been the same guy since 2000 on ASPD with the same opinions and it has never interfered in my ability to see the ones I choose to see.

So this is your measure of success - that despite being a horse's ass to members of both sexes in an anonymous public forum, you can still find women who will fuck you if you pay them enough?

Congratulations.