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It's quite simple: I'm not and will never be a mean-spirited person. For the little business I may lose once in a while, it's completely ok if another lady is making money. I don't see this as a competition. There's a lot to go around.
I am very blessed, as I am quite sure you are as well, beautiful Miss V, with wonderful, generous men. I want my sisters to make money just as much as I do. Simple.
It's quite simple: I'm not and will never be a mean-spirited person. For the little business I may lose once in a while, it's completely ok if another lady is making money. I don't see this as a competition. There's a lot to go around.
I am very blessed, as I am quite sure you are as well, beautiful Miss V, with wonderful, generous men. I want my sisters to make money just as much as I do. Simple.
Lol, Valentina you're getting toppier by the minute. I'm trying to get a handle on the prevalence of time wasting in a more conventional narrow sense rather than the broader existential sense you're describing. In the grand scheme, isn't everything ultimately a waste of time?
Anyway, most of the commentary here has reinforced what I thought originally. It's an urban legend. Mainly it seems like disorganized communication on the provider's part. Valentina, you are the only one advancing the "hardlegs be trying to sext me" thesis. That seems odd seeing as how you have so little tolerance for that kind of bullshit.
And Still Looking, it's good to know I'm not the only one whose appointment communication seems like it's with some kind of fucked up hooker Siri.
Instead of "I don't understand your question" it's "what's your schedule like?". If there was a hooker Magic Eight Ball I guarantee one of the options would be "are we doing an hour or a half hour?".
Lol, Valentina you're getting toppier by the minute. I'm trying to get a handle on the prevalence of time wasting in a more conventional narrow sense rather than the broader existential sense you're describing. In the grand scheme, isn't everything ultimately a waste of time?
Anyway, most of the commentary here has reinforced what I thought originally. It's an urban legend. Mainly it seems like disorganized communication on the provider's part. Valentina, you are the only one advancing the "hardlegs be trying to sext me" thesis. That seems odd seeing as how you have so little tolerance for that kind of bullshit.
And Still Looking, it's good to know I'm not the only one whose appointment communication seems like it's with some kind of fucked up hooker Siri.
Instead of "I don't understand your question" it's "what's your schedule like?". If there was a hooker Magic Eight Ball I guarantee one of the options would be "are we doing an hour or a half hour?".
Lol.
Now that's funny... I can think of a few more...
1) Don't do CIM he isn't clean
2) Steel his watch
3) Get the money up front
4) Make him shower first
5) Everything is extra he has the cash
6) Tell him his time is up in 15 minutes even thou he paid for an hour
7) Start crying and don't stop till he leaves
8) Ask him why he didn't bring ciggs and two energy drinks
One of the most common complaints on this board has to do with time wasters. On the provider side these are said to be hobbyists that inundate a provider with various forms of communication (texts, calls, PMs, e-mails) without actually coming through with an appointment. Like those click bait ads - Providers HATE him.
Yet the common complaint from hobbyists is they can't ever get an appointment. Providers post ads then never respond to calls, texts, e-mails, PMs or even P411 requests. So, is the "time waster" a real thing or a function of providers having complicated lives that interfere with the myriad of communications they get?
Can you imagine getting voice mail? Ugh. E-mail on three different platforms? Requests for used panties on Etsy or whatever that site is for. Christ the service sector is awful. Plus, dudes are juggling burner phones, ghost mail accounts, proxy server settings not to mention, you know, work and life. (If you aren't, you should be.)
So anyway, HOT TAKE ALERT, I'm calling bullshit on the time waster. He's a euphemism for when appointments fall through due to communication breakdown. I demand the nerd provider who runs the Wanker List Acccess database run a query and tell me how many time wasters are in there. Otherwise I ain't buying it.
I pride myself on having some of the best TCB in the hobby. I reply almost immediately. The only times I don't are when I'm on vacation (and have fucking posted it everywhere and yet still get people asking, "you available tonight?").
I enjoy the back and forth communication with a new-to-me hobbyist. It's part of the build-up - makes the session more enjoyable for both of us.
But I'm here to tell you that there are, in fact, guys out there who will endlessly PM/email/text back and forth and never fucking schedule. Or my favorite, they cancel the already scheduled session. More than once. And then I never hear from them again. And I'm left sitting here thinking, "was it something I said?!"
It makes me want to start charging $1 per text/PM/email received, and $5 per text/PM/email reply.
You know, I think I held my tongue on this response when I wanted to say something on another thread about a month ago. I can't remember if I posted this or not.
Honestly, I see the same ladies posting about the most petty time wasting stories.
It's like: YES HE'S A TIME WASTER!!
We all deal with those too; and you know what, we just KEEP IT PUSHIN'!
Good god do yourself a favor and don't waste more of your time posting EVERY, SINGLE, guy who is obviously playing games.
Your alert isn't going to stop him. It isn't going to make him actually come thru and make good on the time he wasted. It doesn't mean he won't book with someone else and actually show up. It's only going to waste more of your time for you to write the damn alert; and quite frankly, it wastes my time reading it.
I'm not talking note-worthy time waster reports; but if you are posting multiple detailed time wasters alerts every week, you might want to reevaluate your threshold for being toyed with.
I enjoy the back and forth communication with a new-to-me hobbyist. It's part of the build-up - makes the session more enjoyable for both of us.
But I'm here to tell you that there are, in fact, guys out there who will endlessly PM/email/text back and forth and never fucking schedule. Or my favorite, they cancel the already scheduled session. More than once. And then I never hear from them again. And I'm left sitting here thinking, "was it something I said?!"
It makes me want to start charging $1 per text/PM/email received, and $5 per text/PM/email reply.
This leads into a question I've always wanted to ask since starting out: How much is too much? Could providers agree on an objective standard for how much communication is too much before a 'monger is officially wasting her time?
How much is too much? Could providers agree on an objective standard for how much communication is too much before a 'monger is officially wasting her time?
I know you quoted Claire but in my opinion it really shouldn't be so complicated.
If he isn't sending screening info or calling, confirming a time, and showing up; he goes on the back burner and the hot potatoes will get served.
I'm not going to get all bent out of shape because I can't efficiently juggle and prioritize my work and personal schedule. Or because I can't sniff some BS when the inquirer is acting all constipated on my pot.
This hobby isn't going to run 100% smooth all the time and we'd be better off just accepting that
This leads into a question I've always wanted to ask since starting out: How much is too much? Could providers agree on an objective standard for how much communication is too much before a 'monger is officially wasting her time?
I'll let the girls answer but let me give you my perspective. Sending PM'S, emails & texts isn't getting you laid. And doing the same isn't making the provider money. When "YOU" want to meet a provider (NO MATTER WHO THE PROVIDER MIGHT BE!)
Send EVERYTHING they might want in the first communication including references. I strongly recommend you sign up for P411 which will all but eliminate screening. If not make sure you have at least TWO reviews posted on ACTIVE ECCIE providers that they can check. Then it's simply WHERE and WHEN! Do your research on the services they provide. If your a FREAK and want something "different" like having them take a dump in a plastic bag and bring it along with a bag of oranges to rub all over your chest.... it might be a good idea to let them know "that's" what you want! Doesn't hurt to check for any specials like review specials and verify or confirm both rate and BBBJ, Greek, CIM which isn't always available. Also check to see if pictures are OK if you want them. All of this SHOULD be in your very first communication.
The providers don't want to know what you ate for lunch or what your favorite color might be. Give them what they need to secure an appointment and that's it! If they wanted a pen pal they would join eHarmony or start communicating with some prisoner.
Here is a sample:
Still looking 294 Reviews & P411 Member
Love to meet you. I have read many of your great reviews! I'm am AGE, RACE, WEIGHT, HEIGHT, ZODIACK SIGN and ALWAYS a gentleman. If I was a secret agent I’d be 008.5 if you know what I mean! Feel free to check with any of the last 10 active / current ECCIE providers I've reviewed. I will also be happy to forward a P411 appointment request where I have over a 100 Okays!
You can call or text me to schedule: 512-BIG-DICK 244-3425 This is the ONLY number I will be using.
After you check my reference please confirm both your rate for an hour and that you offer BBBJ & MSOG.
I look forward to hearing back from you. Can’t wait to meet you.
As professionals, it is our responsibility to redirect our men who may get a bit overly excited about meeting us and may start overflowing us with messages. To be perfectly honest with you, I love my gentlemen who are succinct, but I really don't mind if I have to communicate more with others who may need a bit more assistance. I hate bringing it up, but for my rate, I feel I'm well compensated if I have to exchange a few extra messages to book that appointment.
I don't "sext", send pictures etc, and if I sense that a gentleman is just looking for something as such, he will quickly realize that his efforts will fail. I am polite, but they are told that it is not going to happen.
