Why are overnight rates so expensive?!

[Karrine_Kream]

IDK about the OP an overnight is NOT a sleep-over for me. I don't plan to sleep and I don't plan to let my guy sleep either

[gigi_gypsy]

I stopped doing overnights with most because I have a hard time falling asleep with someone I don't know and if I do doze off - I snore really LOUD ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!

Now I do have special friends that I do enjoy snuggling with and falling asleep in their arms, but I know them very well. AND they can put up with my snoring because I make it up to them in other ways.

I agree with the ladies here whether or not they are low or high volume, it is more time than just your time together. Resting and/or sleeping before and/or after is needed.

Also some may need to pay for a babysitter, a pet sitter, or like in my case a nurse to come in and stay with my parents through the night.

Plus I am sure there are plans on lots of fun and excitement with not so much sleep (or that is how I plan it).

[Guest051115]

Originally Posted by donuts

Considering that you'll be sleeping most of the time, I think it's ridiculous that providers are charging 4-5 times their normal rate for overnight sessions. What do you guys think? How do providers justify such high prices?

^ Sounds like you want to fuck in the club for a cool $40. You should seriously consider getting some non-hobby friends to lay up under. Out of curiosity tell me what would you consider an acceptable overnight rate if the providers normal rate is let's say $2 Bills?

Personally, 2hrs @ a time is the max for me unless I'm with 4 girls at once then better make it 4 hrs but the overnight thing doesn't sound appealing to me at all. If I have a certain kind of relationship with the provider and if she's a natural beauty inside and out then I'd reluctantly consider it.

[gimme_that]

Originally Posted by donuts

but considering that she'll be asleep most of the time, she's not really missing out on anything.

Well if you make your intentions known from the beginnng and ar honest in what you seek you should be able to ask for what you want. Actually....if she doesn't ask you she's either fairly confident that she can satisfy you (rare).....or she just doesn't care.

For me if I'm doing a 12 hour I will probably want 7 hours active sexually intermittently and five hours cuddling and intermittent sleep. Your not paying for her to sleep. You are paying for POD.......or the oppurtunity for " pussy on demand" and her being exclusive to you at that time. If her sleeping was such an issue you could easily book three woman at spread out times throughout the night.......but that would require way too much coordination.......and the midnight to 3am provider almost always cancels lol. Most ladies take cat naps, or they may sleep in crements between sessions.

Originally Posted by donuts

i can justify 1000 if that means being awake all night, but 1000 just to sleep is just too much.

THIS IS MY IDEA OF A 1000 or higher DOLLAR OVERNIGHT..........(usually the higher the rate the more her expectations will be). Definitely GFE.

In one of my 12 hours........she arrived at 8pm.....we started off with a three hour sex session. Ate some fruit, veggies, and close refrigerators comforts etc at 11pm. Let it digest an hour......and around midnight more sex ending at 130am. We were probably exhausted and sleepy by then....and would take 2 to 3 hours to recharge cuddling, showering, massage by me, and sleeping. Wake up at four for a two hour session. And one final tune up session at 7am. One a good day that's very PSE-like for some providers. That's a lot of fuckin and relatively half and half. We aren't robots.

For me if a lady requires an outdoorsey dinner date since I book earlier.....Id rather our overnight be clock free.......where she could come sometime between 4pm and 6pm.....we could eat and go out comfortably.....let our food digest.......and take it slow and have her leave at hotel checkout noon.but me Id rather have sex first before going out. I still want twelve hours regardless of the dinner date.

But that's my pay preference. What she expects $$$ from you in addition to her fee certainly is a deciding factor in rates as well. Make a lady comfortable and she will work with you. Sometimes you have to spend just a bit more for the priveledge of a significantly lower rate.

Originally Posted by donuts

an extra 100-200 on top of her hourly rate seems more reasonable for a sleepover.

Well I hope to goodness your doing outcall to your location. Because that one to 2 hundred dollars you consider extra doesn't even cover most hotels.

I think if your provider pool of picks and choosies from providers who will do an overnight for that litttle will certainly diminish the quality of the ladies you seek. You will be limited in choices.

400 to 500 really. In a big state like Texas.

And least we forget ...here's the part that will further limit your choices. Some ladies have requirement that will cost extra. Some may want dinner date or breakfast, uninterrupted sleep (rarely), maybe extra to pay a babysitter.

Originally Posted by donuts

i don't understand. why would a spinner need more money?

Because they are not as durable as their other female counterparrts. Need proof. Check their rates in other areas besides texas. 300 first hour, 600 second hour, 900 third hour, 1700-2000 overnight. They usually won't go anywhere under 16......regardless of her initial rates. Other body types in my opinion don't do this......well maybe midgets......Usually ladies offer somewhat of a rate incentive in their first four initial hourly rates for more booked time. Spinners rates usually don't cater to multihours because they know it will either be very taxing on their small bodys if you are very active......or she will need more time to recover than ladies in other body types would.

Originally Posted by Holly Love

She's not really sleeping. LOL How well do you sleep with a stranger more than likely in a strange place, strange bed, etc. LOL............

Besides, who is paying us to sleep? Yes, there more than likely will be some sleep involved. Not the normal 8 hours in our comfy bed, with our comfy surroundings etc. Does this clear it up a little for you?

Originally Posted by Karrine_Kream

IDK about the OP an overnight is NOT a sleep-over for me. I don't plan to sleep and I don't plan to let my guy sleep either

If a lady is talented enouh she will put you to sleep.....if your walking around the room eating a snack watching CNN with a hardon while she's sleeping she's not a go getter lol.

What the original poster want to avoid is ladies who require uninterrupted sleep........usually that's just a clever way to milk most of the time away she has to stay. Inventing a sudden headache that she needs to sleep off is a common trickey practice too. Choose wisely.

[JustCause]

If you have to ask...

[BBW Katrina]

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[Zhivago52]

It's simple. If you cannot afford, don't ask.

[Prime Time]

One hour is bad enough.

[Eva Damita]

Originally Posted by gimme_that

You must not know how to negotiate. Somee providers are firm in thir rates and won't budge. Never hurts to ask. What ill she call you.....a cheapskate. Your already paying an HDH rate....no matter how small the overnight booking.

I will say this though. The more you book multihours and are known for them the easier it is to negotiate.

I usually try to cut my cost down and her overhead by providing my own outcall, I book late night 8pm or later......when her quota is almost complete, I also book on weekends when ladiees usually dont tour as much, provide food for us, and any small comforts she might like touring ladies are usually more manuverable with rates. They have a quota to make......

Oh I forgot to ask.......

How many hours do you consider a legit overnight...........how much of a rate do you consider too much..

Even if a lady takes 1000 for 12 hours..........that 88 dollars an hour.

I consider three times her rate or more a safe amount. Since ladies say they are low volume and only see two clients a day .

If she's a spinner........add about 600 more dollars to whatever amount you think you want to negotiate with. They can't take that much dick and want "out of commission money" for the day after lol.

Or maybe he learned from the old school gents that it's rude to price haggle a provider to lower her rate. It's a luxury to eat at Ruth Chris Steak House everyday, this hobby is a luxury. I can't negotiate their high prices - why do it for a human being? I know, very anti-career hobbyist ideology....

And to the OP, all you do is sleep on your overnights?! You're seeing the wrong providers, Love. Most overnights happen between already acquainted parties.

[ICU 812]

Whats too much?

Eight hours at:

$2400 ($300/hr)
$1600 ($200/hr)
$800 ($100/hr)

As the disclaimer says: you pay her for her time. If you think its quality time you schedule again.

[gimme_that]

Originally Posted by Eva Damita

Or maybe he learned from the old school gents that it's rude to price haggle a provider to lower her rate.

Haggling or negotiating about a ladys half hour or hour rate is far different than doing that for an overnight.

Haggling is deliberately trying to see a lady at a rate that is far lower or inferior to the initial rates she advertises with.

Negotiation is much different. Especially because a large bulk of the ladies I saw didn't even do an overnight booking prior to seeing me or have a long list of reviews for any. Rates have been negotiable and so many of your female counterparts were able to work with me and other guys behind closed doors. She may tell a hobbyist to even post the rate she has on her website, but pay her less in session just to maintain an image. I know because I have been asked the same....always by established independents. So I know better but definitely tow the line respectfully when negotiating. End of the month house note and car payment time is usually a good time........or the end of a less than stellar tour.

Same as ladies posting an ad with "special rates" one week and raising them back the next. Its an oppurtunity in business and oppurtunity. I don't consider her less than classy because she had to drop her rate to get new business or faster turnaround in business..............its just business. Worse she can say is no. But I have had plenty of return calls after a rejection from said provider........to see if I found anyone to accoommodate me for the night.......

[gimme_that]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

Whats too much?

Eight hours at:

$2400 ($300/hr)
$1600 ($200/hr)
$800 ($100/hr)

As the disclaimer says: you pay her for her time. If you think its quality time you schedule again.

An eight hour overnight to me is a waste of time. More than likely the party will want to have a dinner date......that alone takes about 1.5 hours or 2 in and of iself.....plus digestion. That full two sessions and a nap. Too short....that time goes by too quick. Anytthing less thann 12 hours is of nno value to me and feels rushed.

What also sucks about your rate frames above........if I can see a provider for 100 for an hour booking. Why legitimately would I pay or offer her 800. I can see her as low as 100.....so why not offer a medium or ask.How does that provide financial incentive to me? Even with the rate of 200 and hour equating to 1600.........I might take her posted rates as a foreshadowing clue that she doesnt really prefer multi hours.....because her rates provide no incentive for booking more time.

[Eva Damita]

Originally Posted by gimme_that

An eight hour overnight to me is a waste of time. More than likely the party will want to have a dinner date......that alone takes about 1.5 hours or 2 in and of iself.....plus digestion. That full two sessions and a nap. Too short....that time goes by too quick. Anytthing less thann 12 hours is of nno value to me and feels rushed.

What also sucks about your rate frames above........if I can see a provider for 100 for an hour booking. Why legitimately would I pay or offer her 800. I can see her as low as 100.....so why not offer a medium or ask.How does that provide financial incentive to me? Even with the rate of 200 and hour equating to 1600.........I might take her posted rates as a foreshadowing clue that she doesnt really prefer multi hours.....because her rates provide no incentive for booking more time.

Now we're talkin'!

[pyramider]

Make sure the offer is not tainted.

[Jewish Lawyer]

Do you consider this negotiation?
Me - Do you want to do _______________ with me?
Provider - Yes
Me - How much will you charge?
Her - I will do it for ______________
Me - at that point, I just say yes or no. If I say no, it is couched along the lines of I understand, but I don't want to pay that - let's just do a regular session. I really wouldn't want to talk her down to something she wasn't happy with, it she wasn't a willing seller it wouldn't be that much fun for me.