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04-19-2021, 07:57 AM
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Myself I will not send a deposit. As previous stated to much chance of scams. Say you want to see someone and they ghost at the last minute. So you say it’s only $25. Times that by 4 = $100. If I make an appointment and for some reason cannot make it I will call or text. I have at times been called at the last minute for work but if I am right there I will give the lady/provider a token for the missed oppurtunity. Just my 2 cents.
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04-19-2021, 12:38 PM
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Gaining Momentum
Join Date: Sep 20, 2012
Location: usa ct
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giving a deposit at a business you have legal recourse to get your money back but here if the provider refuses its my loss so i would never consider it
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04-20-2021, 03:23 AM
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Aug 13, 2019
Location: albany
Posts: 526
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no way around it...its not a 9to5 job... I think no shows are part of the business.... christ even McDonalds has no shows everyday lol
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04-20-2021, 05:31 AM
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Join Date: Nov 3, 2018
Location: Albany new york
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McDonald's it usually the employees who are no shows. Go some Sunday morning near opening and watch the poor manager try to cover 6 jobs themselves at the same time...
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04-20-2021, 10:35 PM
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User ID: 518438
Join Date: Jan 7, 2020
Posts: 24
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Bentley,
This is Lexi Massage from Buffalo (my Lexi acct got the banhammer on here). I do not require deposits and NCNS totally suck, especially when I’m touring and sitting in the hotel rm twiddling my thumbs and constantly refreshing Twitter feed bc someone didn’t show up. BBG’s best practice is that she requires deposits for appts that are longer than 1 hour. 1 hr can be made up but multi-hour appts are a bitch to compensate for. Time=money, especially on tour when expenses are high. I’ve told clients who cxl’d right before appt or NCNS that if they don’t compensate me somehow, they can never book with me again. If no action is taken to rectify the situation, I immediately blacklist them in the database and inform the local reputable providers that I have a rapport with of the incident and client’s information. I created a Twitter group chat with a handful of Buffalo providers for information sharing of potentially dangerous clients, NCNS, etc. It was helpful for us until my Twitter account got suspended (too many nip pics) and I never recreated it.
If more providers use the same database, it could be very helpful to us when “screening” the potential client. Before I respond to a new phone #, I search it in the database. I noticed when I first started visiting your city, all the Timewasters and those blacklisted came out of the woodwork, but there are some diligent providers in the Albany area that use the same database as I that had already flagged them as such...saving me plenty of time by not corresponding with them after looking up their point of contact.
There is no fool-proof system. Unfortunately, last min cancellations or NCNS will always happen, but to mitigate your risk, you may want to consider a small deposit when on tour or for multi-hours. Tightening up screening can reduce timewasters but will never completely rid of them. Phoenix in Buffalo has tightened up screening so much that she won’t even allow clients to continue with initial screening if they contacted her through a text app bc of the nature of the throw away #’s.
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04-21-2021, 07:03 PM
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User ID: 227762
Join Date: Jan 24, 2014
Location: Albany, NY
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Thank you for the info. Sounds like we need to get another database popping.I would like to visit Buffalo sometime in the future. I have always wanted to come out there. Thats quite a hike from here.
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04-23-2021, 03:00 PM
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Join Date: Oct 4, 2013
Location: NY Capital District
Posts: 171
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Originally Posted by Bentley Jetaun
OK, now I understand. I have to remember that everyone does't think like me. I try to give people the benefit of the doubt, providing them with enough rope to hang their self. It bothers me when people take me for granted. I am a human being above all. I have a life, a family, feelings, and things to do as well. I do not sit around all day beat-faced waiting for potential appointments. I have more productive things to do than entertain pictures, sexting, and smut texts. I go by appointments in order to schedule myself accordingly. What about a compromise? How much of a deposit do most girls require? 50%? Some nail salons require a $50.00 deposit defending on the type of service. I feel like a $25.00 deposit would be fair and appropriate. I really don't want to have to do this. It's ridiculous. We are all adults here.
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I think most people would love to give people the benefit of the doubt if they could. Many of us have been caught by the deposit or the "give me money for nails or an uber" scam before. Saying $25 or $50 seems pretty scammy too as most of the scams ask for low amounts like that. I know NCNS suck, I do not have a good answer for you. I know it sucks on a guy's end pulling up to the location and sitting around for 15-30 minutes without an answer (had the 30 minute one happen to me from a verified provider which is why I decided to wait) but it is unfortunately a reality of the business.
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04-25-2021, 02:31 PM
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Join Date: Sep 9, 2010
Posts: 712
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Snood - well said . I agree with everything that you said . Thanks for posting this. Quail
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04-25-2021, 02:57 PM
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Join Date: May 9, 2011
Location: Albany
Posts: 2,759
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In the hobby since I was station in Germany decades ago...........things were so much simple back then, walk in, pick a women, pay the madame, have fun and go on your way...........now I know with Uncle Leo and the other issues that go with that and that fact that some women have some bad issues and those that have others who they are "working for"...........the hobby has become a real risk which is way good solid providers are so rare and they cost so much..........divorce and child support are still a pain in the ass thus my hobby budget does not usually allow me to spend on high end providers like yourself or the Sara Charles of the world...........Additional having been out right robbed twice and ripped off a few times (major upselling a few times) I am reluctant to pay a deposit for all the reasons above.
I feel it is fair for a provider to ask or raise her rates if a last minute cancel attempts to book again.......as payback for the last minute cancel. But no I do not do deposits because because of past events that have cost me hard earn cash that pisses me off when you make a mistake/ get robbed and don't get what you have paid for.
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05-03-2021, 02:03 PM
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The Lioness!!!!
User ID: 87270
Join Date: Jun 18, 2011
Location: Bouncing around the Hudson Valley!!!
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05-03-2021, 02:06 PM
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The Lioness!!!!
User ID: 87270
Join Date: Jun 18, 2011
Location: Bouncing around the Hudson Valley!!!
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Bentley, I am curious are there any review sites for clients? I feel your participation on here is a really good thing. It makes us guys remember we are visiting other human beings, who we need to respect. I believe asking for a guy's handle on here and the other site may be a good indicator of how a guy feels about the ladies he has visited and may be the next step before a deposit. Respect and communication are keys to any relationship, even a relationship that lasts a half hour.
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yes there are quite a few client review sites ... even if i were to tell you which as a provider i cannot, yu wouldnt be able to get on them anyway... kind of like us providers cannot access the gentemens room here on eccie you wouldnt be able to acces the client review pages that we have
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05-03-2021, 04:24 PM
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Join Date: Jul 17, 2018
Location: Amsterdam NY
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I really thought there was, but I had never had anyone talk about them.I figured if us guys were smart enough to help each other, the ladies were equally as smart. I imagine these sites are not used so much by the local girls.
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05-04-2021, 07:26 PM
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User ID: 518438
Join Date: Jan 7, 2020
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Originally Posted by DeconKeys
I really thought there was, but I had never had anyone talk about them.I figured if us guys were smart enough to help each other, the ladies were equally as smart. I imagine these sites are not used so much by the local girls.
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The ones that do are super diligent...and helpful to visitors like myself. If girls start ignoring your messages, know that you’ve been added, LOL, sooo BEHAVE, boys!
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05-04-2021, 07:49 PM
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Join Date: Apr 23, 2021
Location: Bolton Landing
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The ladies have a room on here like we gentlemen do. They share.
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06-09-2021, 08:42 PM
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Pleasure Practitioner
User ID: 309364
Join Date: Jul 31, 2015
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 3,230
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I don’t want to be a bitch, but I will ask that other ladies not publicly speak about me and my practices.
My deposit guidelines have changed over time and continue to do so.
So what has been said above is not entirely true.
Any ladies or gents that have questions about how I deal with deposits, feel free to reach out via email, text, or Twitter DM.
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