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Old 08-07-2021, 05:22 PM   #16
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The only way to prevent SARS CoV2 from mutating is to control the spread of infection. You won't need the additional shots if the virus is not mutating. A republican president purchased the doses before the results from clinical trials were announced. Yet it is the states that vote republican in presidential elections that are under vaccinated. Ark, La, Missouri, Texas are all under vaccinated. Florida is under vaccinated too. Florida is swing state in presidential elections. Kind of ironic that Trump voters don't want to get the shot when it was Trump who purchased the doses.
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Old 08-07-2021, 05:45 PM   #17
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It begins to appear that Wuhan virus is like Influenza A, and other coronaviruses - and mutte rapidly.

Will herd immunity offer a 'cure' - beginning to seem unlikely, and vaccines now seem to help the patient clinical course - but do not prevent infection acquisition - during which the virus can be transmitted.



IMHO - the only way to control Wuhan virus tranmission is =- stamp it out as Polio and Smallpox.

That scenario begins to seem unlikely, unfortunately


your assumption that it is 'Trump voters' - who are the predominanlty un-immunized - is not accurate.
Black under privileged populations are far more likely to unimmunized. .



https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covi...ace-ethnicity/

As of this week, 70% of the adult population in the United States have received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine. While this progress represents a marked achievement in vaccinations that has led to steep declines in COVID-19 cases and deaths, vaccination coverage—and the protections provided by it—remains uneven across the country. With the growing spread of the more transmissible Delta variant, cases, hospitalizations, and deaths are once again rising, largely among unvaccinated people. While White adults account for the largest share (57%) of unvaccinated adults, Black and Hispanic people remain less likely than their White counterparts to have received a vaccine, leaving them at increased risk, particularly as the variant spreads.
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Old 08-07-2021, 06:46 PM   #18
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These now deceased Right Wing Goons wish they had got ONE shot.

https://news.yahoo.com/anti-vaxxer-f...191433478.html

https://www.thedailybeast.com/h-scot...cles_fancylink

As famous ''Lefty'' Pete Seeger wrote.. ''when will they ever learn?''
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Old 08-07-2021, 07:12 PM   #19
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These now deceased Right Wing Goons wish they had got ONE shot.
Actually they probably wish that Fauci hadn't funded Gain of Function research in China...

I hate when American taxpayers fund bioweapons research in our enemies laboratories because FUCK YOU THATS WHY.
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Old 08-07-2021, 11:42 PM   #20
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Actually they probably wish that Fauci hadn't funded Gain of Function research in China...

I hate when American taxpayers fund bioweapons research in our enemies laboratories because FUCK YOU THATS WHY.
The democraps fuck you IN EVERYWAY and ANYWAY.
Recent case and point POS creepy joe telling private property owns who expect tenets to pay...FUCK OFF the Constitution of the USA ain't going to help. This courteous of the rabid left!!
Politicians like this are some serious scum bags
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Old 08-08-2021, 03:51 AM   #21
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your assumption that it is 'Trump voters' - who are the predominanlty un-immunized - is not accurate.
Black under privileged populations are far more likely to unimmunized. .



https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covi...ace-ethnicity/

As of this week, 70% of the adult population in the United States have received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine. While this progress represents a marked achievement in vaccinations that has led to steep declines in COVID-19 cases and deaths, vaccination coverage—and the protections provided by it—remains uneven across the country. With the growing spread of the more transmissible Delta variant, cases, hospitalizations, and deaths are once again rising, largely among unvaccinated people. While White adults account for the largest share (57%) of unvaccinated adults, Black and Hispanic people remain less likely than their White counterparts to have received a vaccine, leaving them at increased risk, particularly as the variant spreads.
The sentence in your post that white adults account for the largest share (57%) of unvaccinated people backs up what I wrote in a prior post. The USA has about 330 million people. Black people only make up 12% of the USA population. Even if 2/3 of the black population were not vaccinated this would still be less that all of the white adults that are not vaccinated. What I wrote in a prior post was correct.

https://statisticalatlas.com/United-...-and-Ethnicity
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Old 08-08-2021, 04:01 AM   #22
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It begins to appear that Wuhan virus is like Influenza A, and other coronaviruses - and mutte rapidly.

Will herd immunity offer a 'cure' - beginning to seem unlikely, and vaccines now seem to help the patient clinical course - but do not prevent infection acquisition - during which the virus can be transmitted.



IMHO - the only way to control Wuhan virus tranmission is =- stamp it out as Polio and Smallpox.

That scenario begins to seem unlikely, unfortunately
It looks like we are headed for a having/needing a shot every year for seasonal flu (Influenza A) and SARs CoV2.
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Old 08-08-2021, 07:29 AM   #23
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As I've mentioned before, back in January when I got my 2nd Pfizer shot, I was told that there was a high likelihood that a booster shot would be needed at some point in time.

From day 1 of this virus hitting our shores we are continuing to learn about the COVID virus and making changes as needed. The end seemed near until the Delta variant came along. On July 7 the 7-day average of deaths due to COVID was 23. Today it is 55. Hospitals are running short of beds in many cities due to the increase in COVID patients. It will soon be determined if booster shots will help.

BTW, there is a somewhat high likelihood that I have COVID. I purchased a reliable home test kit last night and will be taking the test soon.
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A vaccinated guy, who thinks he’s currently got the rona, singing the praises of the vaccine. That’s some heavy duty irony right there.
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Old 08-08-2021, 07:59 AM   #25
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It looks like we are headed for a having/needing a shot every year for seasonal flu (Influenza A) and SARs CoV2.
Speak for yourself. A hundred million or so won’t be included in your “we”.
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Old 08-08-2021, 08:01 AM   #26
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A vaccinated guy, who thinks he’s currently got the rona, singing the praises of the vaccine. That’s some heavy duty irony right there.
But but but, it’s not as severe!!!!!!
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getting ridiculous.


now I'm assuming they're talking the European version of the vaccine.


they're saying 95% of the hospitalized covid victims were vaccinated.
Could be due to ADE(Antibody Dependent Enhancement). There could be some things wrong with this Vaccine they weren't expecting. But they don't care they'll give it out anyway.
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Old 08-08-2021, 08:37 AM   #28
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A vaccinated guy, who thinks he’s currently got the rona, singing the praises of the vaccine. That’s some heavy duty irony right there.
The mRNA vaccines prevent death from SARS CoV2. They do not prevent you getting infected. 99.2 % of all deaths from CoVid are from unvaccinated people.
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The mRNA vaccines prevent death from SARS CoV2. They do not prevent you getting infected. 99.2 % of all deaths from CoVid are from unvaccinated people.
I am negative. Wife is positive, which is why I said I might have the virus. She is showing some minor problems -- fatigue, cough, dizziness. Yes, the unknown question is what would have happened had she not had the vaccine. Impossible to answer but your statistic makes it clear to me.

Statistics are showing the Delta variant is changing the landscape. Much more contagious. Was out shopping today for food and many more people wearing masks than just a week ago. People seem to understand.

s an aside, a 16 year old girl who is a family friend had a double lung transplant a few months ago and just contracted COVID and believes she is going to die. Please send prayers her way.
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https://www.redvoicemedia.com/2021/0...aboard-jabbed/

And this

https://www.redvoicemedia.com/2021/0...case-of-covid/

It’s happening around the world. Which begs a simple question. Why take an experimental vaccine if it doesn’t work?
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