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Old 01-24-2019, 10:56 AM   #16
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Why won't Trump let the diplomats leave? If they are in danger let them come home.
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Old 01-24-2019, 11:15 AM   #17
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The people of Venezuela...socialism is killing us!!http://www.newser.com/story/270249/v...ls-revolt.html
Why don't you take you next trip down there NANCY and see your beloved ideology in practice!!
Bummer. We cant do anything now. Putin said we better not get involved. A vote for Trump is a vote for Putin


https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-ca...074124932.html
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Old 01-24-2019, 12:12 PM   #18
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Thank you DL
Ayn Rand is always a good read.
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Old 01-24-2019, 12:20 PM   #19
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They haven't run out of oul....like the former Soviet Union, the price drop killed them.

But the Russian are there to take over.

Trump and Putin are both well aware of the Monroe Doctrine

Still applicable
Putin annexed Crimea - which is on his doorstep and not difficult to defend militarily.
Putin is not stupid enough to annex Venezuela.
It would be an Afghanistan all over for Russia - only worse.

on the other hand - perhaps an invasion of Venezuela is just what Putin needs to do - try to bring back an economy under DPST Maduro - good luck with that
All the bordering South American countries would take up arms against Russia- except maybe Bolivia and Nicaragua.
It would be a re-do of VietNam for Russia - fighting in a country on the other side of the globe, long supply lines, cannot tell friends from foe, in a stinking tropical cess-pit.

Come on down Putin - be my guest.
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Old 01-24-2019, 12:24 PM   #20
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Bummer. We cant do anything now. Putin said we better not get involved. A vote for Trump is a vote for Putin


https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-ca...074124932.html

TM - see my thoughts above on Putin intervention in Venezuela
We would be in a terrible position to intervene militarily .
Support Guaido diplomatically and let sanctions work.
Let the surrounding SA countries weigh in the situation - it is their neighbor.
We have no need to be involved.
you taking orders from Putin these days????
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Old 01-24-2019, 12:27 PM   #21
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Why won't Trump let the diplomats leave? If they are in danger let them come home.

Are our diplomats in danger?
Please show proof Maduro has acted or will act against American diplomats in Venezuela.
Thank you, sir
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Old 01-24-2019, 03:37 PM   #22
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Are our diplomats in danger?
Please show proof Maduro has acted or will act against American diplomats in Venezuela.
Thank you, sir



He gave them 72 hours to leave yesterday remember? Did you see the mobs?
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Are our diplomats in danger?
Please show proof Maduro has acted or will act against American diplomats in Venezuela.
Thank you, sir
you obviously haven't been to Venezuela oeb
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You forgot Castro in Cuba where the Cuban people voted him into power.
Did they have an option?
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you obviously haven't been to Venezuela oeb
What difference does it make if he has or not?
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Russia is leading us in the same direction they found themselves....Oligarchs. One powerful Ruler and a bunch of rich fuckers in charge of certain sectors , including the media.

That is Trumps plan....to disable the power of the press. That is what Putin has done.

Ayn Rand? That is like saying Fred Flintstone is who advices you on your car troubles...
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Thank you DL
Ayn Rand is always a good read.
For a third grader who didn't know any better...
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you obviously haven't been to Venezuela oeb
Irrelevant - and TM is not in Venezuela at this moment
I am very sensitive to diplomat safety and Benghazi history

I am not aware of any reported verified threat to the safety of our diplomats
Would Madura seize our diplomats?
Would Maduro send mobs against the American embassy/diplomats?
I do not have the data to make a decision
Trump will have access to intelligence about the ground situation in Caracas
He holds the safety of our diplomats in his hands with the decision for them to remain - which clearly supports Guaido against Maduro.
I pray it is the correct decision.





Posters are welcome to make an educated, informed , critical and debatable response, rather than meaningless speculations about a posters' geographic location..
Meaningless responses include YT posts. Laugh.
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Old 01-24-2019, 04:07 PM   #30
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WTF - Please read Forum rules #1,3,4,and 7
I am not a third grader, and Ayn rand would be for exceptional third grade readers.

I read Rand at age 7 years.

Grammar -not "advices" - although perhaps close in meaning
it is 'advises'.

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