What does 'upscale' mean to you?

[bigcockpussylicker]

Originally Posted by Gemma34

Upscale means higher quality ladies and its usually obviously noticeable. She speaks well, is educated, has impeccable hygiene, and makes you feel like you're getting your moneys worth AND MORE. She spends money on photoshoots (no selfies), keeps hair done (not box of Clairol from dollar general), mani and pedis always kept up, doesn't live in a motel ( actually has a house where she pays bills and has furniture) has a car (doesn't gets rides to her calls and hotels) wears nice clothing, wears nice perfumes (not cucumber melon or moonlight musk sprays from Walgreens) and knows which fork is the salad fork, and lastly.... Doesn't post on Bp and 4 hour availability every day all day and night AND has her own website. Now that to me is what being an upscale provider is.

you don't mention taking other calls during your session.,
I expect an upscale provider would not take nor deal with (at all) anyone but the client, they would make the client feel as if they are the only client of the day.

[Guest013121]

Originally Posted by bigcockpussylicker

you don't mention taking other calls during your session.,
I expect an upscale provider would not take nor deal with (at all) anyone but the client, they would make the client feel as if they are the only client of the day.

OH! Good one! Absolutely true dat!! My phone is usually off and put away.

[GiveMeLibertyOrGiveMeHead]

Originally Posted by Gemma34

Upscale means higher quality ladies and its usually obviously noticeable. She speaks well, is educated, has impeccable hygiene, and makes you feel like you're getting your moneys worth AND MORE. She spends money on photoshoots (no selfies), keeps hair done (not box of Clairol from dollar general), mani and pedis always kept up, doesn't live in a motel ( actually has a house where she pays bills and has furniture) has a car (doesn't gets rides to her calls and hotels) wears nice clothing, wears nice perfumes (not cucumber melon or moonlight musk sprays from Walgreens) and knows which fork is the salad fork, and lastly.... Doesn't post on Bp and 4 hour availability every day all day and night AND has her own website. Now that to me is what being an upscale provider is.

I have met several providers over he years that fit your description, but they did post on BP and some did not have a website, (granted some were before everyone was on the interweb). I think the "Doesn't post on BP" comment may be a little harsh since BP is one of the, (If not the #1) most widely viewed site for the hobby at this time. While it does have it's fair share of rip offs, fakes and trash, it does have plenty to offer if you do your research and don't jump in blind.

I once worked for an old Italian man who had a very upscale business that catered to rich people and he never advertised or had specials. He believed in word of mouth and he did very well. When his son took over the business he started advertising and had specials every once in a while and almost tripled his dad's profit. BP is just another way of advertising that reaches millions every day...why wouldn't you use it?

[Guest013121]

I don't use it because I have quite a client base built up and that would be a gigantic step down for me to post ads on Bp. Many of the clients I see would never see anybody off of Bp. I just don't need to place ads and wait for my phone to ring. And as I'm upscale, one would never ever find or expect to find me on Bp. And I'm not interested in reaching millions, I reach the few that love discretion and the upscale quality I carry. So as harsh as it may have sounded, that was not my intention. But Bp is a place for girls that need constant money flow and attention. I need neither of those things. I need consistency and to not be seen on places such as Bp. And honestly, Bp just doesn't go hand in hand with upscale. Neither does quickies or bng's. Just my humble opinion though.

[GiveMeLibertyOrGiveMeHead]

Originally Posted by Gemma34

I don't use it because I have quite a client base built up and that would be a gigantic step down for me to post ads on Bp. Many of the clients I see would never see anybody off of Bp. I just don't need to place ads and wait for my phone to ring. And as I'm upscale, one would never ever find or expect to find me on Bp. And I'm not interested in reaching millions, I reach the few that love discretion and the upscale quality I carry. So as harsh as it may have sounded, that was not my intention. But Bp is a place for girls that need constant money flow and attention. I need neither of those things. I need consistency and to not be seen on places such as Bp. And honestly, Bp just doesn't go hand in hand with upscale. Neither does quickies or bng's. Just my humble opinion though.

Maybe it's a Midwest thing, but in other states BP has plenty of upscale providers. I travel quite a bit and BP is usually my first stop. KC and surrounding areas seems to rely heavily on this site, (and that's why I'm here) and P411. I have been in this hobby for many moons all over the US and I had never used either before I ended up in KC.

As far as your business...it is yours and I was in no way trying to tell you how to run it. Nor was I questioning your upscaleness, (I know that's not a word but...). I was just curious as to why you wouldn't use BP. Now that I know you view it as beneath you I will leave it alone.

Finally, I realize there is nothing upscale about BnG's and quickies, but sometimes you just need one and I thank God for providers that offer them.

<Edit> I guess upscaleness is a word. Someone needs to add that to the spell check database. </Edit>

[i'va biggen]

What is your take on upscale providers and duck tape?

[CryptKicker]

I know in West Texas lots of guys use BP but that is more because of the lack of traveling providers in some of the areas more than it is that there are upscale ladies on there. For the most part, I think BP is more like the A or AA minor league affiliate in baseball. But that is just my opinion. There are some very good ECCIE ladies that advertise on BP for whatever reason they choose to do so.

[BottomFeederKC]

Personally I think the term "Upscale Provider" is meaningless. Just as the term "Classy" is meaningless. It's relative, subjective, and most importantly - it's over used.

But if I had to build the definition of "Upscale" for the sole purpose of this fine Hobby of ours, I would offer the following criteria.

• Upscale Providers do not advertise with pictures containing toilets, men or children in the frame.
• Upscale Providers do not display psuedo-gangsta hand signs in their advertisements.
• Upscale Providers do not cold-call strangers via PM/SMS.
• Upscale Providers do not frequent by-the-hour motels.
• Upscale Providers smile.
• Upscale Providers do not run to Phillips 66 for budget condoms.
• Upscale Providers wear matching underwear.
• Upscale Providers do not have dirty, calloused feet. Get a Pedi, Betty.
• Upscale Providers are true hostesses. Greeting, relaxation, drink, ambience. Passion.
• Upscale Providers can read and write the English language.
• Upscale Providers do not spend all day stirring up proverbial fecal matter in the CoEd section of SHMBs
• Upscale Providers do not call asking for gas money.
• Upscale Providers do not rant to clients about how bad their Sugar Daddies and Pimps are.
• Upscale Providers always shave their assholes.

It's a good start.

Now that I think about it, this is how all Providers should be.

[Guest073117]

The difference in upscale and not is IMHO about the ability to function as a host. This profession was born out of the roots of hosting. Whether we know them as escorts, oiran, geisha, companions or courtesan, it all started with a skill set that was not based strictly with what was between their legs. They understood the art of welcoming a person and entertaining them. In short they understood the art of hosting.

When I come see a provider, I am often amazed by the lack of basic courtesy that occurs in our transaction. And maybe this is the difference in price point. I've not seen it yet. But maybe someone will read this and take some it to heart. So here is some minor rants on some of my experiences and suggestions for universal improvement.

Welcome: When I show up at the door, I am probably a little nervous and apprehensive. You have 3 seconds to set the tone for the whole session. Smile, invite me in, and then guide me in. It's your space. I have no idea where to stand, sit, crouch, kneel or whatever. Bring me in to your place and tell me where to go. If you happen to have a couch, lets go sit on it together for a moment. Standing around awkwardly in the door way just is terrible. It does nothing to set the mode or build a connection.

As a corollary to this, if you are meeting me at some back door of your hotel, for god's sake, cover the @#$% up! Don't come meeting me half naked in some hallway where anyone can see us. Which leads me to attire.

Attire: Try to look put together. A little bit goes a long way. But your sweatpants and t-shirt is just not going to cut it. Maybe for a quick appointment, but for an hour or more, take the time and get it together. As much as anything we are here for a fantasy and rarely does that fantasy involve a woman who doesn't give a crap about her appearance.

Drink: Seriously. I don't expect you to offer me a glass of Glenmorangie 18 Year Single Malt, but would a bottle of water be too much of a courtesy? It's a little thing that goes a long way.

"Make Yourself Comfortable": You've left me standing in the doorway of your hotel, with no directions, no idea where to stand, sit or even where to put my coat. And you want me to make myself comfortable? Nope. You are responsible for my comfort. Take off my coat for me (maybe even hang it up?). In essence, help me get comfortable. Focus on me, not the thousand little things you have suddenly found to do around your room.

Your Phone: I have paid for your time. If you start messing with that thing during our time for any reason, I swear I am going to snap it in half. Seriously.

Conversation: Please try and expand your conversational capabilities beyond how awesome you vagina is. I am fully capable of making that decision on my own. And please, if I mention I am a healthcare worker, don't show me some terrifying thing on your body and ask me what it is. I'm not offering free services anymore than you are, and it really shatters the illusion.

Donations: Can we try and keep the menu simple? I really apreciate providers like Lariyah, Destiny and Dahlia (I'm sure there are others) who lay it all out up front. There are some providers out there whose menu's are so complex, they need an actual menu to sort it out. After working all day, looking at spreadsheets, the last thing I want to do is carry the zero through long division to figure out where I can put my penis.

The End: Walking off while the cover is still on and telling me that there is wipe in the restroom is a sure way to end this time on a low point. Even once that is over, there is still stuff to do. Everything I have said about the welcome applies in reverse. Help me get my stuff together, escort me out, etc.

Wow this got a little long. I could come up with more, but no one is reading all of this anyway.

In short, if you are a provider who understands and provides this level of service, I really want to meet you. I guess I'm really looking for the Madame de Pamapdour hiding on these boards and I'm not meeting her (If that's a reference you get without looking it up PM me right now!).

[Urban Dahlia]

Originally Posted by bigcockpussylicker

What did you post that I "jumped all over"?

I'm just pointing out(again) that words mean little; what matters are actions.

If this is true, then please walk up to (see below), and say (see below):

(1) Walk up to an elderly woman, and call her an "old fucking cunt". See what happens.

(2) Walk up to a police officer, and call him a "worthless pig". See what happens.

(3) Walk up to an airline ticket counter, and tell them that you "have a bomb in your suitcase". See what happens.

(4) Walk up to your mom, and tell her that she's a "dirty whore". See what happens

Etc....Etc....Etc

Words Mean A Lot!

Actions Mean A Lot!

[bigcockpussylicker]

Originally Posted by Urban Dahlia

If this is true, then please walk up to (see below), and say (see below):

(1) Walk up to an elderly woman, and call her an "old fucking cunt". See what happens.

(2) Walk up to a police officer, and call him a "worthless pig". See what happens.

(3) Walk up to an airline ticket counter, and tell them that you "have a bomb in your suitcase". See what happens.

(4) Walk up to your mom, and tell her that she's a "dirty whore". See what happens

Etc....Etc....Etc

Words Mean A Lot!

Actions Mean A Lot!

Proper context has to be taken into account

Words and actions are not equal

words mean less than actions

Say all you want, but when you do something, that's what counts. How many times has someone promised you something and never fulfilled their promise?
Actions and words both make people feel things, but actions give you memories you can look back on and know why you felt that way.


(1) Walk up to an elderly woman, and call her an "old fucking cunt" and give her her $100, See what happens.

(2) Walk up to a police officer, and call him a "worthless pig". Hand him a wallet you found on the street . See what happens.


(4) Walk up to your mom, and tell her that she's a "dirty whore". then give her a hug and laugh it off. See what happens

[bigcockpussylicker]

again UD
where did I "JUMP all over you"??

[Mizzou82]

Cut the girl some slack. She did not say she was an upscale "provider" her ad says upscale "location". The girl isn't saying she is anything other than in a safe location,

Even though you used a bad example ad, you have an interesting question. For upscale, I expect- nice hotel, clean room, great hygiene, good grammar/conversation, makeup and hair done up, conservative yet sexy dress if gong out, and A HIGER PRICE that is deserved for a higher level of service.

I think some providers use the upscale adjective to send a message to clients, i.e. "I don't let smelly, dirty, long toenailed, bad breath dudes fuck me"

[bigcockpussylicker]

Originally Posted by Mizzou82

Cut the girl some slack. She did not say she was an upscale "provider" her ad says upscale "location". The girl isn't saying she is anything other than in a safe location,

Even though you used a bad example ad, you have an interesting question. For upscale, I expect- nice hotel, clean room, great hygiene, good grammar/conversation, makeup and hair done up, conservative yet sexy dress if gong out, and A HIGER PRICE that is deserved for a higher level of service.

I think some providers use the upscale adjective to send a message to clients, i.e. "I don't let smelly, dirty, long toenailed, bad breath dudes fuck me"

what about a hot body?
does upscale mean a flabby body
or a tight, toned, gal who looks great nude

[Mizzou82]

not to me, look at the pics for that. There are upscale ladies who are overweight. I include appearance (grooming, dress, class), but not beauty in upscale.