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03-17-2012, 01:07 PM
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Islam is an excuse. Control is the goal. They could have called it Fredism, but all religions have in them an element of control.
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Too true.
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03-17-2012, 01:15 PM
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Joeblow, I am being serious. The priciple Prophet of Islam, Mohammed, would be considered by any reasonable standard to be nothing more a murdering Thug.
Sorry, but the sooner the Planet is rid of such repressive "Religions" as Islam, the better off Humanity will be.
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I'm glad to see we're in agreement. Mohammad was, as you say, a murdering thug. He was also a pedophile.
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Was_Muhammad_a_Pedophile%3F
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03-17-2012, 05:49 PM
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No news .....control is the goal of every man made ideology, including libertarianism!
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03-17-2012, 09:35 PM
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Explain how libertarianism's goal is controlling the population. This should be good.
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03-18-2012, 01:21 AM
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the Bush blunder was there is no surrender in Afghanistan he could have done as much with a few cruse missiles and never had boots on the ground.
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If that were true Clinton would have killed OBL.
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03-18-2012, 01:13 PM
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If that were true Clinton would have killed OBL.
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Clinton had the ability to kill OBL easily. Sudan basically handed him OBL on a silver platter. Supposedly, Clinton didn't take out OBL because he didn't have enough evidence to act (per Janet Reno). More likely, he focus grouped it and figured it wasn't politcally wise.
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03-18-2012, 01:29 PM
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Substance
Well, finally something of profound substance from COG.
. . . Only a totally dysfunctional religion could convince any rational groups human beings that learning to fly a plane and hijacking an airliner and crashing into buildings and killing thousands of innocent lives would somehow advance their cause and please God.
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Islam is an excuse. Control is the goal. They could have called it Fredism, but all religions have in them an element of control.
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03-18-2012, 02:48 PM
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If that were true Clinton would have killed OBL.
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If memory serves Clinton was all for it,but could find no support in congress.
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03-18-2012, 02:54 PM
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If memory serves Clinton was all for it,but could find no support in congress.
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I'm pretty sure he didn't consult congress on something like that. When Obama gave the go ahead to take OBL congress was definitly not in the loop. They are aren't very good at keeping secrets.
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03-18-2012, 03:20 PM
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Ekim has forgotten (or he hopes you have) that we tried cruise missiles in Afghanistan and it didn't work for Clinton. He equivacated to prevent collateral damage (his claim) and we missed. Clinton never tried again and we got the USS Cole attack and 9/11.
Bush had to go into Afghanistan as they attacked us on 9/11. Barry made a choice when he took office. He could have declared victory and came home but he didn't. Obama called Afghanistan the good war during the campaign and his big mouth painted the US into a corner. Even if he couldn't leave Barry could still not support his generals with immediate aid. Obama had to tapdance around for 100 days until forced to make a decision. That decision was to lose the war but not just yet. He wanted to wait until 2014 to lose the war so he could get reelected at the cost of needless US lives wasted.
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03-18-2012, 03:24 PM
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Clinton was told that Afghanistan was were they sent OBL then he would not be able to mount an attack until 2001. 2001? No skin off Clintons ass then.
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03-18-2012, 04:05 PM
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Ekim has forgotten (or he hopes you have) that we tried cruise missiles in Afghanistan and it didn't work for Clinton. He equivacated to prevent collateral damage (his claim) and we missed. Clinton never tried again and we got the USS Cole attack and 9/11.
Bush had to go into Afghanistan as they attacked us on 9/11. Barry made a choice when he took office. He could have declared victory and came home but he didn't. Obama called Afghanistan the good war during the campaign and his big mouth painted the US into a corner. Even if he couldn't leave Barry could still not support his generals with immediate aid. Obama had to tapdance around for 100 days until forced to make a decision. That decision was to lose the war but not just yet. He wanted to wait until 2014 to lose the war so he could get reelected at the cost of needless US lives wasted.
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I hear he's naturally gifted a tap dancing.
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03-18-2012, 08:11 PM
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Rule Britania!
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03-18-2012, 10:56 PM
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Afghanistan attacked us on 9-11? They were all Saudi nationals. We attacked Afghanistan because they don't have oil. Saudi Arabia does.
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03-21-2012, 11:02 PM
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technically, he was one, but marrying children was pretty common back then.
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