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Old 07-17-2014, 04:43 PM   #16
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At the bottom of the deep blue sea. Where else?

You've got it backwards.

If it wasn't on the ocean floor, THEN you would expect to see parts somewhere.

But the ocean can swallow ocean liners without a trace. A jet plane is nothing.
Your statements are logical but until something is found, one must keep an open mind to other possibilities, no matter how far fetched. Really, not one part from Flight 370 has ever been found, has it?
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Old 07-17-2014, 04:48 PM   #17
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The incident came several months after European Aviation Safety Agency issued warnings to airlines to avoid airspace over Ukraine, specifically over regions of Crimea. Those warnings, which were issued in April, were due to concerns that two different services might be controlling the airspace in the area, following Russia’s seizure of Crimea in March.

"It is unsafe if more than one Air Traffic Service provider is in charge of one single Flight Information Region (FIR); no compromise can be made with the safety of the flying passengers," Patrick Ky, executive director at EASA, said.

A map of alternate routes was also published by Eurocontrol, the European air traffic management agency.

In April, the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration also issued a warning prohibiting pilots from flying over Crimea, the Black Sea and the Sea of Azov. At that time, the FAA’s concern was also related to worries about “conflicting air traffic control instructions” from Ukrainian and Russian flight authorities and the possibility that a civil aircraft could be misidentified. Military actions was named as a reason for flights being prohibited in the area.

CNN speculated that the pilot of MH17 may have changed his route, flying over the disputed territory, in order to avoid a weather system.

http://www.ibtimes.com/mh17-airlines...-crash-1631622

The pilot did avoid Crimea.




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...an-border.html
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Old 07-17-2014, 05:09 PM   #18
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You left out Obama...........
YOU DIDNT!
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Old 07-17-2014, 06:29 PM   #19
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It might be just as has been speculated. Someone thought it was a cargo plane of one of their "enemies", and shot it down.

Since everybody over there seems to be an "enemy" of someone, I guess they will just say......"oops"
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Old 07-17-2014, 06:59 PM   #21
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I think I'm going to have to go along with the MSNBC/Howard Stern version...



They seem to vet their phone guests about as well as they do their Presidential candidate picks.
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Old 07-17-2014, 07:08 PM   #22
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This is the unfortunate extreme outcome for any Civilian Jetliner that flies over a "Disputed area" where the "Ground Forces" have access to sophisticated S.A.M. equipment and no clue how to use it. This has been the biggest fear of Security Services since the 1980's. A Civilian Airliner shot down by anti-aircraft fire (intentional or accidental) killing hundred's of people. Accidental or not this will change Air Travel forever (again).

As for bodies, you have to remember that the Airliner was supposedly shot down at 33,000 feet. between friction and distance. There may not be much left and surviving pieces could be spread out over a wide area. As with a number of questionable events in History. Most likely the general Public will never know the full truth about what happened. But the speculation will keep the Conspiracy Buffs busy for Years.
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They seem to vet their phone guests about as well as they do their Presidential candidate picks.




Captain Janks once again proving that none of these networks screen any of their so-called experts.

They will literally put anyone on the air just to kill time.
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Old 07-17-2014, 08:51 PM   #24
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The REAL Malaysian flight 17 is hidden under camouflage netting and behind potted plants, right? Ready for later use by Al Qaeda, right?
Are you trying to imply that last April's Malaysian Airlines flight is not actually parked on a remote, deserted island and camouflaged by thousands upon thousands of pot pants?

Surely you jest!

But-but-but, not just any Idiot broke the story. It was JDIdiot, himself!

I have a hard time believing that JDIdiot would not have checked out his impeccable sources prior to reporting al Qaeda's cleverly designed & implemented The Boeing 777 Camouflaged Pot Plant Cover-Up Caper.
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Old 07-17-2014, 09:40 PM   #25
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Finally someone gets it!
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At the bottom of the deep blue sea. Where else?

You've got it backwards.

If it wasn't on the ocean floor, THEN you would expect to see parts somewhere.

But the ocean can swallow ocean liners without a trace. A jet plane is nothing.

How little you know. Remember that plane that went down in the center Atlantic about seven years ago? Completely disappeared, black box and all. They found the debris field months later floating in the Atlantic. Of course they knew pretty much where the plane went down so they could follow ocean currents but with flight 137 no one has a clue.
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Old 07-18-2014, 01:04 AM   #27
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Obama is responsible. Which in turn he'll blame Bush. Same old story, next!
If you look at Obama's schedule, he doesn't even know that its happened.

And you can take that Jewish banker crap and shove it up your ass. I have never said, or written, one single word about some stupid Jewish banker conspiracy.
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Most likely the general Public will never know the full truth about what happened.
It was reported that U.S. intelligence knows exactly what happened from the gps launch location to the identity of the missile, which is believed to NOT be the SA-11 Gadfly.

As for your statement it is more than likely accurate, because if the U.S. intelligence is correct in its initial assessment from "assets" in place in the region, then it was not launched from the Ukraine soil and was not launched by either the Ukrainian forces or "the separatists." Given some strong initial talk from one Democrat in particular it will put the current administration in another dilemma in which the current administration would have to back down and avoid a potential military confrontation. So it is more convenient to blame a rogue group who "made a mistake" due to their incompetence, ...

... since they don't have a movie to blame this time.
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Old 07-18-2014, 03:57 AM   #29
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Most likely the general Public will never know the full truth about what happened.
It was reported that U.S. intelligence knows exactly what happened from the gps launch location to the identity of the missile, which is believed to NOT be the SA-11 Gadfly.

As for your statement it is more than likely accurate, because if the U.S. intelligence is correct in its initial assessment from "assets" in place in the region, then it was not launched from the Ukraine soil and was not launched by either the Ukrainian forces or "the separatists." Given some strong initial talk from one Democrat in particular it will put the current administration in another dilemma in which the current administration would have to back down and avoid a potential military confrontation. So it is more convenient to blame a rogue group who "made a mistake" due to their incompetence, ...

... since they don't have a movie to blame this time.
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What is the "official" cover story ?

And who is issuing that story - the Russians, the Separatists, Malaysian Government, Malaysian Airlines, the Ukraine Government ????
If you kept up with the news you would have known that a pro-Russian rebel boasted about shooting down the plane. Said that he had told everyone not to fly over their space. He posted it on his Facebook page. He was pretty boastful about it. That is until he found out it was a commercial jet. He is the guy who says he is the defense minister of some area of Ukraine that the pro-Russians hold.

Of source you are not going to believe a word because their is no link hand delivered to you. Here it is sense it seems you are totally incapable of looking up anything on your own.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/pro-russ...-airlines-jet/
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