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10-29-2015, 11:56 AM
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The basis for laws prohibiting sexual activity between a person in a supervisory position and a subordinate is the nonconsentingl nature of the relationship when someone has "power" over another ... the power to hire, fire, tranfer, demote, and/or othrewise interfere with someone's work position. It doesn't matter that "she" said "yes" in that context. Bill was using his "authority" in the Governor's mansion and it didn't let up .... his dutiful spouse facilitated it by not blowing the whistle on him.....but instead claimed a "great right-wing conspiracy" for the allegations.
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10-29-2015, 12:18 PM
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Gauguin and Cosby...
I find it interesting to compare the two.
Paul Gaguin dumped his family to move to the south Pacific and used porn and alcohol to seduce young brown skinned girls, also giving many of them syphilis in the process. Artsy liberals still adore him.
Cosby ' allegedly' drugged adult women who were looking to use his influence and position to further their careers. For those of us old enough to remember the seventies and eighties, it was quite common for people to intentionally take drugs , such as Quaaludes, in order to reduce their inhibitions and indulge in sexual excess. I wonder how many of those who accuse Cos willingly took the drugs and are now, with their hoped for careers in the tank, are having a case of buyers remorse and are look at this as a last ditch opportunity to get some face time. Cosby has been a lifetime advocate for family values and education. Artsy Liberals hate him.
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10-29-2015, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Joey_Gleet
I find it interesting to compare the two.
Paul Gaguin dumped his family to move to the south Pacific and used porn and alcohol to seduce young brown skinned girls, also giving many of them syphilis in the process. Artsy liberals still adore him.
Cosby ' allegedly' drugged adult women who were looking to use his influence and position to further their careers. For those of us old enough to remember the seventies and eighties, it was quite common for people to intentionally take drugs , such as Quaaludes, in order to reduce their inhibitions and indulge in sexual excess. I wonder how many of those who accuse Cos willingly took the drugs and are now, with their hoped for careers in the tank, are having a case of buyers remorse and are look at this as a last ditch opportunity to get some face time. Cosby has been a lifetime advocate for family values and education. Artsy Liberals hate him.
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You make a very good point...the same can be said about Clinton and conservatives hate him!
What say you?
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10-29-2015, 12:45 PM
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there are allegations of rape against both, that's all there is, so its the same Agree
whether rape was with or without drugs isn't the question..but since you seem fixated on that, is forcible rape without drugging more or less an act of violence than with drugs?
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The law does not distinguish and I am not fixated.
http://www.healthyplace.com/abuse/ra...forms-of-rape/
Aggravated Rape
Aggravated rape is a type of rape defined in the law. Aggravated rape involves: - Forced sex acts by threat of death or serious bodily injury
- Forced sex acts involving an unconscious or drugged victim
- Sex acts with ******** under the age of **
But you really are missing the point....in 20 years they will call you a rapist for paying to have sex with a Hooker. That is the direction we are headed.
https://bebopper76.wordpress.com/201...n-trafficking/
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10-29-2015, 02:25 PM
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...in 20 years they will call you a rapist for paying to have sex with a Hooker.....
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.. and I will proudly plead guilty and do my time!
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10-29-2015, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by WTF
The law does not distinguish and I am not fixated.
http://www.healthyplace.com/abuse/ra...forms-of-rape/
Aggravated Rape
Aggravated rape is a type of rape defined in the law. Aggravated rape involves: - Forced sex acts by threat of death or serious bodily injury
- Forced sex acts involving an unconscious or drugged victim
- Sex acts with ******** under the age of **
But you really are missing the point....in 20 years they will call you a rapist for paying to have sex with a Hooker. That is the direction we are headed.
https://bebopper76.wordpress.com/201...n-trafficking/
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Whatever will woomby do to make a living THEN ? !!
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10-29-2015, 04:51 PM
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Do you think the sex you have had with prostitutes is consensual?
So folks do not...
http://departments.bloomu.edu/crimju...ex_tourism.htm
Truly consensual prostitution is exceedingly rare, Raymond argues, believing that prostitution that might seem consensual is probably the product of poverty or past abuse. Her position as a feminist is that purchasing access to a body (almost always a woman's) for intercourse is exploitation and that no regulatory line can be drawn and no legal framework crafted to get around that fact. For her, it is a human rights issue: A society that allows some women to be degraded for the gratification of men inevitably demeans all women.
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I think the bitch just hates sex.
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10-30-2015, 08:49 AM
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You make a very good point...the same can be said about Clinton and conservatives hate him!
What say you?
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I say that justice is supposed to be blind and the scales need to be balanced equally.
If there is evidence to support prosecution for Clinton or Cos , take them to court.
However, there should also be a reasonable expectation that the accusers will come forward in a timely manner. In both cases there is the possibility of women seeking to use the fame and power of the men involved to advance their own careers.
In the case of Gauguin, the facts are pretty clear and if we are going to erase peoples art on the basis of unethical, predatory behaviour, any shows of his work should be boycotted and his paintings burned. The case against Cos , however, has not been proved.
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10-30-2015, 10:00 AM
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Ignorant assumption. If we destroyed the art produced by deviants, we would have very little art left. Your equivocation is preposterous.
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10-30-2015, 02:17 PM
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Ignorant assumption. If we destroyed the art produced by deviants, we would have very little art left. Your equivocation is preposterous.
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So your 'art " that you make with spray cans to advertise your " therapy " services down at the 'holes should NOT be destroyed ? Even when YOU paint them on someone else's private property ?
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10-30-2015, 02:33 PM
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Ignorant assumption. If we destroyed the art produced by deviants, we would have very little art left. Your equivocation is preposterous.
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Actually, you are supporting my argument. Cosby is having is reputation as well as his career destroyed by unsubsantiated accusations. He has not been proven to have done anything wrong.
However, a proven deviant syphilic sexual predator such as Gauguin still gets accolades.
I'm just saying that the same standards should apply to all .
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10-30-2015, 02:37 PM
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Actually, you are supporting my argument. Cosby is having is reputation as well as his career destroyed by unsubsantiated accusations. He has not been proven to have done anything wrong.
However, a proven deviant syphilic sexual predator such as Gauguin still gets accolades.
I'm just saying that the same standards should apply to all .
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Just like woomby's hero Slick Willy the CONVICTED sexual predator gets accolades from the lying liberals .
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10-30-2015, 02:53 PM
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Ignorant assumption. If we destroyed the art produced by deviants, we would have very little art left. Your equivocation is preposterous.
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If going to the Islands, getting girls (18+) drunk and showing them pornography, then having sex is considered wrong, I don't wanna be right!
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10-30-2015, 05:17 PM
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If going to the Islands, getting girls (18+) drunk and showing them pornography, then having sex is considered wrong, I don't wanna be right!
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It's a matter of consent. The underage girls that Gauguin exploited could not understand fully what was going on. And there's that whole syphilis thing.
At least Cos fooled around with adults. And, given the cultural climate at the time, the ladies probably willingly had a lude or two and jumped at the opportunity to play with Mr. Bill.
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10-30-2015, 06:14 PM
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Tell everyone you are very poor; it is cheaper that way.
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under her theory all acts anyone commits or doesn't commit could be seen as the product of their irredeemable past and is, therefore, non consensual and without will
I took a job because I was broke, if I had been rich I would have been a lay-about playboy
you are exploiting me
I think most adult people are responsible for their acts, some arent perhaps but most are
the poor guy who visits a prostitute could have an equally exploited past which caused him to be exploited by women for all his money
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Hey don't take the girls away from us. We couldn't have sex at all without paying for it. It is hard for guys to get sex without paying for it. We can find a wife, if we have a lot of money to support her, buy her a house and support her children that appear with or without our contribution. Last of all guys have to be good looking to attract a wife.
For those guys that are just ugly and/or poor; how do they get their share of the pussy in the world without giving a lady something in return.
Oh, wait a minute: the guy that married her still had to pay. Did I get that right? Either way, the guy has to pay.
Strange, I have never met a woman who would pay me for sex, or just pay me to look after her.
Maybe it is just because I am ugly, and I don't tell them if I have any money; if I did they would charge me more.
JR
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