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Old 09-04-2020, 06:23 PM   #16
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Damn, that sounds nastier than the Covid.

Btw the ibuprofen doesn't do shit. I add 100 mg of Viagra instead. Also, honestly, I did order quercitin today, recommended by Why_Yes_I_Do for Covid treatment, to add to my stockpile of food, water, toilet paper, paper towels, cleaning fluids, and ammunition. You can't get the quercitin, or zinc except in the form of 13.3 mg cold lozenges, locally where I live. All the rest is available in abundance.
Yeah, it's pretty spicy. Best to drink fast, lol.
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Old 09-04-2020, 09:16 PM   #17
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A Supercomputer Analyzed Covid-19 — and an Interesting New Theory Has Emerged

https://elemental.medium.com/a-super...d-31cb8eba9d63

what a weird virus. this theory explains whats going with the weird symptoms associated with cv19.

it apparently triggers a wave of chemicals in the host body's blood system in whats called the Bradykinin wave.

taking vitamin D appears to be the solution to reducing the effects of the virus.
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Old 09-04-2020, 09:50 PM   #18
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How long until this is unproven? No shot at the OP, but is this virus that tricky to convince us that IT is the reason the windows and doors open to let more intruders in?


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Covid-19 is like a burglar who slips in your unlocked second-floor window and starts to ransack your house. Once inside, though, they don’t just take your stuff — they also throw open all your doors and windows so their accomplices can rush in and help pillage more efficiently




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Note: Retraction Watch does not draw a distinction between withdrawal and retraction, because journals that have done so have typically done it to justify not saying anything about why a paper was retracted, and to sometimes make a paper disappear without a trace. Richard Sever, co-founder of bioRxiv and medRxiv, asked that we include a comment from him about how the processes for withdrawing preprints and retracting journal articles may differ: Journals may retract a paper at the authors’ request and/or if the editors identify fundamental flaws that would have precluded acceptance if spotted during review. [RW: Note that some journals insist that they cannot make such moves without authors’ permission.] A preprint is usually withdrawn only at an authors’ request. A preprint server will not typically withdraw a flawed preprint against the wishes of the author, since the server made no claim to have peer-reviewed and certified the scientific content in the first place. At the same time, preprint servers *will* withdraw a preprint against the authors’ wishes in instances of fraud, ethics violations, dangerous material, or legal issues. It is thus the nature of preprints that there will be some that contain errors but are not withdrawn and would not appear in the above list. [RW: The same is, of course, true of some papers in peer-reviewed journals.]









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Old 09-07-2020, 08:13 AM   #19
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what does that do?

Aches and pains, possible fever reducer. BTW: That was all they took and only for 2 days. Though they did reduce their push-ups from 50 to just 25 for those two days.
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So yous are saying 200,000 people fucked up?
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Old 09-07-2020, 08:36 AM   #21
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Default What is it with these cheapskate Doctors anyway?!?

What's up with Doctors looking to use existing remedies that are cheap and widely available for treating COVID these days? Don't they own stocks in Big Pharma companies or anything? Why are they so concerned with helping their patients avoid and recover from disease?

Pandemic Town Hall: Doctors speak about coronavirus therapies which are blocked by authorities

...Doctors weigh in on COVID-19 treatments, including hydroxychloroquine

As part of the Pandemic Town Hall, Craichy invited three doctors to talk about treatments and therapies that they’ve been using and even pioneered against the coronavirus.

Dr. Pierre Kory is a critical-care specialist with experience treating COVID-19 patients in Madison, Wisconsin. To treat patients, Kory uses the MATH+ Protocol that he developed alongside other critical-care doctors in the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC).

This protocol, which Kory presented to the Senate during a hearing on May 6, 2020, includes intravenous methylprednisolone, intravenous ascorbic acid (vitamin C), thiamine (vitamin B1), heparin alongside oxygen, zinc, magnesium, vitamin D3, melatonin and occasionally other treatments.

According to data from the FLCCC, hospitals using the MATH+ Protocol to treat COVID-19 patients have been reporting hospital mortality rates from the disease of just between four to 10 percent as of July. This is a marked improvement compared to the 23 percent expected hospital mortality rate for COVID-19, based on published reports from the U.S., Italy and China.

Dr. Leigh Erin Connealy also supports the use of supplemental nutrients, similar to those used in MATH+. Connealy, who owns and runs the Center for New Medicine in Irvine, California – the largest integrative medical clinic in the U.S. – recently co-authored a peer-reviewed article on the use of integrative medicine in the pandemic, published in the journal Proceedings of ACIM Research.

The paper stated that there were “many nutraceuticals that are effective for preventing and treating viruses in early stages of exposure.” It also encouraged individuals to “ routinely consume sufficient amounts of essential nutrients from diet and supplements to support their immune system.”

In the town hall, Connealy talked about some of the supplemental nutrients that were covered in the paper that can enhance immunity and help prevent infection. In addition, she also mentioned that these could also be used in combination with other treatments against the disease.

Dr. George Fareed has treated hundreds of COVID-19 patients in California using hydroxychloroquine, zinc and doxycycline. He has seen good results with uses low doses of hydroxychloroquine early in the course of the illness, without any significant side effects.

In addition, Fareed also pointed to a meta-analysis of COVID-19 deaths by country with or without early hydroxychloroquine intervention. Based on these studies, he stated that early treatment with hydroxychloroquine reduced the death rate by 85 percent in the 1.8 billion people from nine countries, compared to the 0.66 billion people in eight countries not using early treatment with the drug.

Despite these numbers, however, the use of hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for COVID-19 remained mired in a legal bog of controversy and misinformation. Despite other doctors coming out in support of the drug, authorities, such as the FDA, continue to caution against its use. This, in light of evidence that it is effective against the disease, has led some to wonder if there are other reasons at play for why authorities have spoken against it...


1hr, 32 min video here: https://www.brighteon.com/7f46b7c0-4...3-e7cab9af4d4e


Maybe the better question is; Why are people and The Masters of the Universe censoring these Doctors?
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Old 09-07-2020, 08:47 AM   #22
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...Retracted coronavirus (COVID-19) papers...
What's the deal with these non-retracted, quack, studies showing HCQ is effective? So what if it only reduces death outcomes by a mere 76%? Who care if treatments are widely available and inexpensive when there are many mouths to feed at Big Pharma and in the Bill Gates household?!? And what's up with using actual data from large study groups and being updated regularly, just to prove an obtuse point that many lives can be saved? Who does that anyway and has the gall to publish the data and results? What's up with that??!?

Early treatment with hydroxychloroquine: a country-based analysis

Many countries either adopted or declined early treatment with HCQ, effectively forming a large trial with 1.8 billion people in the treatment group and 663 million in the control group. As of September 6, 2020, an average of 57.4 per million in the treatment group have died, and 466.4 per million in the control group, relative risk 0.123. After adjustments, treatment and control deaths become 119.6 per million and 694.7 per million, relative risk 0.17. The probability of an equal or lower relative risk occurring from random group assignments is 0.008. Accounting for predicted changes in spread, we estimate a relative risk of 0.24. The treatment group has a 76.2% lower death rate. Confounding factors affect this estimate. We examined diabetes, obesity, hypertension, life expectancy, population density, urbanization, testing level, and intervention level, which do not account for the effect observed...

Maybe the better question is; Why are people and The Masters of the Universe censoring these Researchers?
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Old 09-07-2020, 07:30 PM   #23
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THE PHILOSOPHER’S IGNORANCE (WITH A RESPONSE BY SLAVOJ ŽIŽEK)


https://thephilosophicalsalon.com/th...-slavoj-zizek/


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After Trump made his repeated comments about ‘slowing’ down the testing, his staffers insisted that he was only joking. To this day, an intricate dance takes place. Trump repeatedly makes statements so ludicrous that it’s easier for his team to insist they are too outrageous to be taken literally. Just as Peter Thiel once remarked that Trump’s plan to build a wall shouldn’t be seen as literal (it was), so today, Trump’s will to foment ignorance about transmission rates is dismissed as a sort of joke, even though testing clearly remains sluggish and inadequate across the country.









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Old 09-07-2020, 08:34 PM   #24
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What's up with Doctors looking to use existing remedies that are cheap and widely available for treating COVID these days? Don't they own stocks in Big Pharma companies or anything? Why are they so concerned with helping their patients avoid and recover from disease?

Pandemic Town Hall: Doctors speak about coronavirus therapies which are blocked by authorities

...Doctors weigh in on COVID-19 treatments, including hydroxychloroquine

As part of the Pandemic Town Hall, Craichy invited three doctors to talk about treatments and therapies that they’ve been using and even pioneered against the coronavirus.

Dr. Pierre Kory is a critical-care specialist with experience treating COVID-19 patients in Madison, Wisconsin. To treat patients, Kory uses the MATH+ Protocol that he developed alongside other critical-care doctors in the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC).

This protocol, which Kory presented to the Senate during a hearing on May 6, 2020, includes intravenous methylprednisolone, intravenous ascorbic acid (vitamin C), thiamine (vitamin B1), heparin alongside oxygen, zinc, magnesium, vitamin D3, melatonin and occasionally other treatments.

According to data from the FLCCC, hospitals using the MATH+ Protocol to treat COVID-19 patients have been reporting hospital mortality rates from the disease of just between four to 10 percent as of July. This is a marked improvement compared to the 23 percent expected hospital mortality rate for COVID-19, based on published reports from the U.S., Italy and China.

Dr. Leigh Erin Connealy also supports the use of supplemental nutrients, similar to those used in MATH+. Connealy, who owns and runs the Center for New Medicine in Irvine, California – the largest integrative medical clinic in the U.S. – recently co-authored a peer-reviewed article on the use of integrative medicine in the pandemic, published in the journal Proceedings of ACIM Research.

The paper stated that there were “many nutraceuticals that are effective for preventing and treating viruses in early stages of exposure.” It also encouraged individuals to “ routinely consume sufficient amounts of essential nutrients from diet and supplements to support their immune system.”

In the town hall, Connealy talked about some of the supplemental nutrients that were covered in the paper that can enhance immunity and help prevent infection. In addition, she also mentioned that these could also be used in combination with other treatments against the disease.

Dr. George Fareed has treated hundreds of COVID-19 patients in California using hydroxychloroquine, zinc and doxycycline. He has seen good results with uses low doses of hydroxychloroquine early in the course of the illness, without any significant side effects.

In addition, Fareed also pointed to a meta-analysis of COVID-19 deaths by country with or without early hydroxychloroquine intervention. Based on these studies, he stated that early treatment with hydroxychloroquine reduced the death rate by 85 percent in the 1.8 billion people from nine countries, compared to the 0.66 billion people in eight countries not using early treatment with the drug.

Despite these numbers, however, the use of hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for COVID-19 remained mired in a legal bog of controversy and misinformation. Despite other doctors coming out in support of the drug, authorities, such as the FDA, continue to caution against its use. This, in light of evidence that it is effective against the disease, has led some to wonder if there are other reasons at play for why authorities have spoken against it...


1hr, 32 min video here: https://www.brighteon.com/7f46b7c0-4...3-e7cab9af4d4e


Maybe the better question is; Why are people and The Masters of the Universe censoring these Doctors?
I think it's a very good idea to consider existing medications that may aid in the treatment of this virus or invest the money to develop new ones. You can take a vaccine and still have a bout with the flu and I am sure it wouldn't be any different with this Covid-19 virus.
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Old 09-08-2020, 09:13 AM   #25
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Generally those vaccinated who contract the illness vaccinated for - have a much less serious course of disease than if not vaccinated.



But - that does not matter to those who get their Vaccine information from YouBoob and believe that vaccines are just a control chip implants in their arm/butt.
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