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02-01-2018, 05:51 AM
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Wrong and yes. He cut the wait time down for vet's waiting to see a doctor. Also, he has reduced the waiting time for vet's to seek closure on their cases. Personally, my family has to wait 5 years - that is unacceptable.
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I do not go to the VA. Obviously cinderbella disagrees with you. I have a friend who lives outside of Waco and depends on the VA for his medical and says the service at the VA has declined sharply in the past year. But even if what you say happens to be true, what has Trump done for those of us vets who do not use the VA for medical reasons?
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02-01-2018, 05:59 AM
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I’m going to have to strongly disagree with you here. Trump isn’t a fantastic speaker at all.
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Like I said, I think that with a script in front of him, Trump can deliver an effective speech. My wife, who did not vote for Trump, was very impressed with the way he handled himself 2 nights ago. With that said, I believe that his big mouth will cost him dearly this coming November and, unless he learns to control himself, in 2020. He has pissed off blacks, Muslims, Mexicans, Palestinians and even Norwegians, the leaders of France, Germany, the U.K., and Montenegro with his impromptu comments.
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02-01-2018, 07:27 AM
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Well, if you are talking about disability - he just signed into law that the appeals process is to go faster. So if you are appealing a VA decision - it shouldn't take years anymore.
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I do not go to the VA. Obviously cinderbella disagrees with you. I have a friend who lives outside of Waco and depends on the VA for his medical and says the service at the VA has declined sharply in the past year. But even if what you say happens to be true, what has Trump done for those of us vets who do not use the VA for medical reasons?
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02-01-2018, 07:29 AM
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My boyfriend - the Libertarian who does not like Trump -thought Trump was very good in his speech also. I like him better off script.
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Like I said, I think that with a script in front of him, Trump can deliver an effective speech. My wife, who did not vote for Trump, was very impressed with the way he handled himself 2 nights ago. With that said, I believe that his big mouth will cost him dearly this coming November and, unless he learns to control himself, in 2020. He has pissed off blacks, Muslims, Mexicans, Palestinians and even Norwegians, the leaders of France, Germany, the U.K., and Montenegro with his impromptu comments.
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02-01-2018, 07:57 AM
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Like I said, I think that with a script in front of him, Trump can deliver an effective speech. My wife, who did not vote for Trump, was very impressed with the way he handled himself 2 nights ago. With that said, I believe that his big mouth will cost him dearly this coming November and, unless he learns to control himself, in 2020. He has pissed off blacks, Muslims, Mexicans, Palestinians and even Norwegians, the leaders of France, Germany, the U.K., and Montenegro with his impromptu comments.
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Yes and I agreed that he could be effective in front of the right crowd but fantastic he is not. That's where you lost me. He is average. And anyone can be ok when people are writing for you and you have a background in television. The issue is not only his mouth but his actions. He has definitely pissed off all of those groups of people and he will continue to because despite his talk of unifying us, he is terrified of losing that 36% base which is made up of racists, anti-immigration, nativist nuts. So he will never be able to unite.
The question I have. You said your wife thought he handled himself. Did it make her want to vote for him? Because most people I know who thought he did ok also said that didn't matter because they don't trust a word he says. So it's great to get up there and not shit yourself but it's meaningless if you don't have trust. Especially since he didn't introduce new policy.
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02-01-2018, 08:05 AM
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So have fun watching that SOTU, can't wait for the numbers to come out showing it was viewed less than Obama's first one and Trump freak out calling that FAKE NEWS.
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I mean I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt and say he was going to freak out and call it FAKE NEWS. Nope Trump did what he does best. Lie. And he does stupid lies, lies that can be fact checked. He admitted that the viewership was 45.7 million. Good number. But like I knew, not higher than Obama's first. That 52.4 million. Clinton's first SOTU had 66.9 million viewers. In fact it Trump's SOTU was the least watched one in almost a quarter of a century. But I'm sure his cult followers will deny that even though that's an easy to prove fact. Then when you hit them with data, they will try to tell you want Trump really meant and that he was talking about with internet and dogs watching. And blah blah blah. The guy lies about everything.
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02-01-2018, 09:26 AM
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Can someone tell me - what they thought of Joe Kennedy's speech? And why - oh why- did they pick this drooling white boy from Mass-that has a name synonymous with money?
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02-01-2018, 09:34 AM
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Yeah
Don't you just hate a name synonymous with money?
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02-01-2018, 09:39 AM
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Yeah
Don't you hate a name synonymous with money?
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Oh Trump cult members only hate it when it's not Trump. A person who puts his name in on everything he creates. A man who leaved in a gold plated penthouse, that's not a problem for them. But a Kennedy, that's a bridge too far. They don't want to hear a Kennedy, they want to hear from a Trump. They want the legacy of a man who's day was associated with the KKK and who himself is a racist. That's a better legacy for them.
They will ask why the Democrats didn't put up a minority. Well the funny thing is, the Democrats have plenty of minorities at the forefront of their party and the minorities in the country are anti-Trump. Yet they pretend they want to hear that voice.
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02-01-2018, 10:02 AM
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Oh Trump cult members only hate it when it's not Trump. A person who puts his name in on everything he creates. A man who leaved in a gold plated penthouse, that's not a problem for them. But a Kennedy, that's a bridge too far. They don't want to hear a Kennedy, they want to hear from a Trump. They want the legacy of a man who's day was associated with the KKK and who himself is a racist. That's a better legacy for them.
They will ask why the Democrats didn't put up a minority. Well the funny thing is, the Democrats have plenty of minorities at the forefront of their party and the minorities in the country are anti-Trump. Yet they pretend they want to hear that voice.
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You are obsessed with race dude! Read up on confirmation bias.
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02-01-2018, 10:39 AM
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You are obsessed with race dude! Read up on confirmation bias.
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Yeah,Dude.
Stop talking about race.
It makes people uncomfortable.
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02-01-2018, 10:43 AM
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You are obsessed with race dude! Read up on confirmation bias.
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Dude maybe read up. One of the Trump followers here is the one who asked why the Democrats put up a white guy and called the Democrats out of touch because they didn't put up someone like Cory Booker. That follower brought race into the discussion I responded to not me. I just pointed out that the Democrats aren't the one's out of touch with the people like Cory Booker. Maybe you should read what's being said before jumping in halfway through and making statements. Nice try!! Maybe next time champ.
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02-01-2018, 10:45 AM
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Yeah,Dude.
Stop talking about race.
It makes people uncomfortable.
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I know but like I just posted, it wasn't me who mentioned that Kennedy was white and asked for a black person. But it's funny, they hate when people talk about the issues Trump and the Republicans have with race. But they have no issue with Trump and his talking/use of race. Funny how that works.
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02-01-2018, 11:05 AM
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Join Date: Aug 23, 2015
Location: Temple texas
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" I am the least racist person there is." DT
Speak up if you believe him.
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02-01-2018, 11:45 AM
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Oh brother - Adieu babes - I'm going over to the National forum.
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