Trump vs Sports

[tonyvicksa]

I am cool with that the Cowboys did. I think it was a good middle ground, and showed respect for the flag and anthem. It was the only game I watched in the past week.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by lustylad

You're the one who richly deserves to be stripped of his American citizenship, oinkboy.

"Negroes" is quaint and antiquated. Learn how to say African-Americans like real citizens do.

The pig thinks saying "more chins than China" is an intelligent statement. Racist pig.

[grean]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Glad you asked that, greenie-weenie. The answer is we can't. They will always be able to find something to protest about in a country where millions of LE officers try every day to keep the rest of us safe from crime and drugs. Are you really naive enough to think there is anything we can do so one day Colin Kaepernick will wake up and say - ok, it's better now... time to stop calling the police pigs?

Once a SJW, always a SJW. It becomes part of their self-image and identity. The last thing they want is racial progress. Then what would they do with themselves? Protesting is the whole point. Ask Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to explain it to you.

Well we can take CK and others out of the equation and we can still say the status quo isn't good enough and there is ample room for improvement.

If you don't agree there is a problem, fair enough. We are arguing, then ,whether or not a problem exists.

However if you say there might be a possibility that current SOP for police can allow for discrimination, and threre is a problem, whether or not SJWs continue to protest after change is affected doesn't mean we shouldn't make the change in the first place.

[garhkal]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

the thing here is that the NFL "may" choose to enforce that rule or not.

So what the hell is the point in HAVING a rule that is a "may enforce if someone gives a damn"? WHY Not just get rid of the bloody rule if its not going to be used..

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Does that help?

http://www.espn.com/nfl/team/roster/...dallas-cowboys

So how about this as some UNITY ... 66 players average $2 million a year.

Each one pitch in $500,000 or 25% of their annual income (more than $500,000) plus THE OWNER pitch in another $10 million for an approximately total of about A MINIMUM OF $45 million into a Texas-Florida Disaster Fund to be administered by the respective Offices of the Governors (ONLY FOR VICTIMS).

Most of the folks in those States who suffered the most (% of their assets) were the same "poor people" they are claiming are most impacted by LE ... (who by the way were working long days to save them from drowning or starvation/dehydration) ... as well as many of their "fans" who were volunteering with their own boats and vehicles to save many other lives ...

while these "protesters" sat in their multi-million dollar ESTATES high and dry!

OR chip in 2 games worth of earnings, and donate it to food banks, animal shelters and the like. Take a few weeks off in the 'off season' and go help habitat for humanity building a few homes..

Originally Posted by grean

They were showing unity with players who feel that others, less fortunate than themselves and without voices, are being discriminated. The players who have knelt chose to be those people's voice.

They are trying to bring about police reform. They are trying to say stop shooting people. It is not okay to shoot people.

When cops shooting blacks (regardless of if its a white or black cop) ammounts to less than 1% of the BLACK ON BLACK Killings going on, why are they not trying to bring about GANG REFORM...

Originally Posted by WTF

green, you are wasting your time , LexusLover blames everything bad on Clinton and liberals and anything good on Trump.

He also loves to make up excuses for Cops on video killing unarmed citizens.

Now if they start shooting old white Codgers , he might start singing a different tune!
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You DO realize that blacks being shot by cops amounts to barely 1/4 of the shooting suspects..
http://www.ibtimes.com/police-shooti...-races-2421634

[grean]

Shooting are not the only problem. If it was only criminals claiming they were treated more harshly it wouldn't hold much credence. However, when doctors lawyers and business people of color as well as others of color say there is a problem, couldn't there be a problem?


Does any in here think racism doesn't still exist?

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by grean

How does one's station in life decide their right to protest?

I didn't mention their "right to protest"! I realize some, like WTF, with rather mouthe off and bloviate bullshit while "assigning" meaning and intent to others, but my suggestion was ...

if Black people have been suppressed by stutues or the U.S. flag, which have been around for an extremely long time in our history,

then why didn't the NFL players, coaches, and owners prohibit the display of the U.S. Flag and the singing of the National Anthem before games LONG AGO and why didn't they go to their knees long ago in "protest"?

It's a fake protest.

If they really wanted to do something about Black deaths and mistreatment, and if they really cared about "oppressed" and "impoverished" people in the U.S. ... the time of these natural disasters is a good time to set an example for the WORLD ... and step up to the plate and serve up some of the spoils they have reaped from the FREEDOMS they have had under the U.S. flag and by those who have "served" that flag..... rather than being a bunch of pussies.

Perhaps they could have contributed to a fund for the families of the police officers ambushed by a Black person in Dallas while the officers were protecting the BLACK LIVES MATTER group marching .... PROTECTING THEIR RIGHT TO PROTEST ... EVEN IF THE "NARRATIVE" WAS FALSE!

If all these anti-Trumpers "run the table" in the next four years, what will they have to whine and blubber about when he wins a 2nd term?

Oh, in answer to your lameass question ...

...where did I post that anyone's "right to protest" had anything to do with their "station in life"?

Or have you contracted the "AssUp-WTF-ButtScramble-Speedo disease?

The great thing about the free enterprise system is the "consumers" have a say in whether or not an "enterprise" stays in business and keeps providing products or services.

Sports are supposed to be entertaining and an escape from the everyday work lives of folks. Politics is not "entertaining"! Hopefully the "fans" will drift away from being "fans" and find another more entertaining experience than a bunch of overgrown and overpaid juveniles kneeling together and hugging each other.

[grean]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

I didn't mention their "right to protest"! I realize some, like WTF, with rather mouth off and bloviate bullshit while "assigning" meaning and intent to others, but my suggestion was ...

if Black people have been suppressed by stutues or the U.S. flag, which have been around for an extremely long time in our history,

then why didn't the NFL players, coaches, and owners prohibit the display of the U.S. Flag and the singing of the National Anthem before games LONG AGO and why didn't they go to their knees long ago in "protest"?

It's a fake protest.

If they really wanted to do something about Black deaths and mistreatment, and if they really cared about "oppressed" and "impoverished" people in the U.S. ... the time of these natural disasters is a good time to set an example for the WORLD ... and step up to the plate and serve up some of the spoils they have reaped from the FREEDOMS they have had under the U.S. flag and by those who have "served" that flag..... rather than being a bunch of pussies.

Perhaps they could have contributed to a fund for the families of the police officers ambushed by a Black person in Dallas while the officers were protecting the BLACK LIVES MATTER group marching .... PROTECTING THEIR RIGHT TO PROTEST ... EVEN IF THE "NARRATIVE" WAS FALSE!

If all these anti-Trumpers "run the table" in the next four years, what will they have to whine and blubber about when he wins a 2nd term?

Oh, in answer to your lameass question ...

...where did I post that anyone's "right to protest" had anything to do with their "station in life"?

Or have you contracted the "AssUp-WTF-ButtScramble-Speedo disease?

You definitely inferred that instead of protesting, they could do other things. You did not day explicitly that they did not have the right. Trump did not either but he did suggest they be fired. A bit beyond the pale for the president, in my opinion.

As to the other things they could do, well, they are, in fact doing many of the things you listed and then some.


Trump will not be elected to a second term. That much is certain. Whether or not he is primaried and forced to run on a third ticket or whatever, the son-of-a-bitch isn't getting elected again.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by grean

You definitely inferred that instead of protesting, they could do other things.

You do have the "disease" ... I did NOT "infer" any such bullshit!


As to the other things they could do, well, they are, in fact doing many of the things you listed and then some.

Be specific! YOU CAN'T!


Trump will not be elected to a second term.

As to the last prediction. I've logged it.

At this date a year ago, you probably said the same thing about his first term ... and that was only 6 weeks before the election. So much for your expertise!!!!!

Go kneel some place. And PRAY HE DOESN'T.

So it's ok to kneel, particularly in front of the Prez..

[grean]

Specific? Really? There are simply too many to list.

Here are a couple of links just to stop the back and forth.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ney-to-charity

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/news...n-10903647.php


https://www.peoplemaven.com/julia_ne...l-players-2017


Players across the league contribute lots of money and do a ton of work for their communities.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by grean

Players across the league contribute lots of money and do a ton of work for their communities.

My suggestion was rather specific and timely. Nice dodge!

Oh, were you helping out at any of the Katrina shelters in Houston when the "sports heroes" showed for their walk through obligatory appearance and photo op?

It's someone "ironic" to me that these overpaid juveniles show their "solidarity" with one another against law enforcement when law enforcement protects them and their fans coming to and from and during the "events," which includes giving them PROTECTION while they appear for their photo ops with natural disaster victims.

It's not all athletes ... and it's not all athletes taking their position of disrespecting the nation, the U.S. Flag, and the military who have made it possible for them to continue making millions of dollars a year. And they can protest all they want as far as I am concerned, and the fans can as well by not showing for the games and watching them on television ... or not buying the products they endorse.

[Yssup Rider]

How much of that $37 MILLION raised by JJ Watt did YOU get, LLiarMan?

How much did you contribute?

You really need to take a fucking vacation. Come back when the forum returns to life. Or better yet, don't come back jack!

FACT JACK! (HAHAHAHAHA!)

[LexusLover]

AssUp the sharks are back at Galveston Island!

[grean]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

My suggestion was rather specific and timely. Nice dodge!

Oh, were you helping out at any of the Katrina shelters in Houston when the "sports heroes" showed for their walk through obligatory appearance and photo op?

It's someone "ironic" to me that these overpaid juveniles show their "solidarity" with one another against law enforcement when law enforcement protects them and their fans coming to and from and during the "events," which includes giving them PROTECTION while they appear for their photo ops with natural disaster victims.

It's not all athletes ... and it's not all athletes taking their position of disrespecting the nation, the U.S. Flag, and the military who have made it possible for them to continue making millions of dollars a year. And they can protest all they want as far as I am concerned, and the fans can as well by not showing for the games and watching them on television ... or not buying the products they endorse.

Nice Dodge? I'm not sure what you mean. You said I couldn't be specific so I replied with articles listing specific examples.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

AssUp the sharks are back at Galveston Island!

How much of that $37 MILLION raised by JJ Watt did YOU get, LLiarMan?

How much did you contribute?

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by grean

Nice Dodge? I'm not sure what you mean.

If you don't know what I meant, then how do you know it's a "dodge"?

You need to work on those alleged internet "debate" skills, those little cutesy remarks about "dodges" don't always work. see above!

You were actually the one "dodging" by bringing up something else.

I suggested if they really gave a shit about the "oppressed" minorities in this country in 2017 they would cut back on their recreational activities and "Cadillac" plan LIFESTYLES in their multiple mansions and cough up a few bucks out of their scheme of things to help out all those folks they are worried about ..

and they don't on the scale to make a difference in their lives.

Like I posted: For instance: They could patrol the streets in the killing fields of Chicago and instead of trying to sneak firearms into the airport (which some have tried) ... take them to Chicago so they can use "deadly force" against any thug who wants to play cowboy on the weekend. Emanuel won't mind I'm sure! And return every weekend (during off season of course!) until the thugs and gang members there get the message ... or they are exterminated like the cockroaches they are.

I recognize it's not as much fun as executing someone who disrespects them, beating their wives and girlfriends, or raping groupies following them around ... or "recreating" illegally, but hey! At least directing that energy and skill set at thugs and gangs helps "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN"! And they can still use the head injuries to "get off"!