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Old 05-02-2025, 07:07 PM   #181
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So, by that argument, trump shouldn't have any trouble besting Biden's deportation numbers, right? Why can't he? Could it be because he's completely incompetent?

you mean Obama right? Biden didn't deport anyone. he gave them all 10 million a wet sloppy kiss and a GOV debit card.

Trump has already secured the border. it's on lock down. the numbers show it. deportations are happening. i find the lame jibber jabber about due process amusing nonsense because it is


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Old 05-02-2025, 07:47 PM   #182
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https://www.politico.com/news/2025/0...osses-00324683

The losses keep growing
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Old 05-02-2025, 10:00 PM   #183
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"Trump’s immigration agenda has not been uniformly foiled. He has deployed thousands of troops to the southern border, empowered immigration authorities and overseen a steep decline in illegal border crossings."


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Old 05-02-2025, 10:21 PM   #184
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Delightful

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Old 05-02-2025, 11:16 PM   #185
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amusing. this judge ruled over one detention center in Texas about Alien Enemies act and let stand all other edicts by Trump about ILLEGAL immigration.



and you call this what exactly?


i call it a nothing burger
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Old 05-03-2025, 12:12 AM   #186
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I'll weigh in on this. I don't have a single problem with someone with a criminal background that would be flagged and cause them to be "not allowed for entry to the USA", being deported. That is the way the system is supposed to operate. Fast tracking immigrants who are already here, and not giving them due process, is a major issue and a definite problem as it is a right given to anyone who is in the USA. Would these nefarious fools be deported eventually = maybe, hopefully , sure, absolutely. But those who are not of that vane should not the be "babies thrown out with the bath water".

I'd say the thing to have done is to keep enough immigration judges hired or left, (either as temporary assignments or permanent) in place to rule on these hearings, and then adios amigo's, if you are in violation of reasons' to be here.

Nobody wants' illegals here who are in violation of a visa, asylum or a green card applicant. If you are here and are in violation- get the fuck out. I'd say 99.99% of all americans, dems or republicans would agree. But everyone has their day in court, including democrats, republicans and even the lowely asylum seekers. Sadly that may include some chinese massage girls, but for the purpose of this reply - yes we will include the.


However-

Imagine if Baron Trump was told that his mom who was not a full citizen, as is the trump wish on non citizen births in the USA, was told to get the fuck out, and US born people are considered citizens only if the parents are citizens, -as this adminstraton has said should be the law.-

how would that be defended in court by the current adminstration with the suggested law changes?

And what about the dreamers-/ AKA DACA -those who have been here decades who came here illegally, would be tossed out regardless of them being legal tax payers etc. I would suggest that the fine line in the mess, is what needs to be figured out in congress and not by executive order, as no EO, will ever hold up in court and Trump has found this out while trying to be the hardass he wishes he was in the current administration.

My 2 cents
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Old 05-03-2025, 06:05 AM   #187
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Part of respecting law and order is playing within the rules correctly. One major reason Trump's numbers remain behind is the lack of respect for the rule of law to tackle violations of the law.

Why was Obama better at Trump's core issue without trying and failing with all the exotic and novel hardline tactics? What's missing from the Homan/Miller/Trump approach?

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/0...osses-00324683
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U.S. appeals court rejects Trump bid to revoke 400,000 migrants’ legal status

Immigrant rights advocates had challenged an agency decision to pause parole programs that have allowed Ukrainian, Afghan, Cuban, Haitian, Nicaraguan and Venezuelan migrants to enter the country.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...tus-rcna204987
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Old 05-06-2025, 01:54 PM   #189
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Old 05-06-2025, 03:47 PM   #191
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Judge rules than an asylum seeker must be returned. Rejects Trump request to reconsider. Pauses order for 48 hours for Trump to appeal

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fed...-trump-request
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Part of respecting law and order is playing within the rules correctly. One major reason Trump's numbers remain behind is the lack of respect for the rule of law to tackle violations of the law.

Why was Obama better at Trump's core issue without trying and failing with all the exotic and novel hardline tactics? What's missing from the Homan/Miller/Trump approach?

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/0...osses-00324683

nothing is missing. well except federal judges attempting the legislate from the bench and exceeding their very limited scope of authority



Obama and Clinton denied "due process" to millions they deported. making a big deal out of Trump doing the exact same thing makes you partisan at best or simply anti-Trump at worst



where were the flood of liberal judges suing Obama? Clinton? even the ACLU didn't make a legal challenge to Obama denying so-called due process.



now every libtard judge in the country are tripping over their robes committing lawfare against Trump. simply because it's Trump.



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Judge rules than an asylum seeker must be returned. Rejects Trump request to reconsider. Pauses order for 48 hours for Trump to appeal

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fed...-trump-request

this asshole got busted for "forbidden topic" in Houston. you really think he should be brought back? he voided any "right" to remain in the US which he never had to begin with


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Only if they get proper due process

they have no right to due process except the right to be thrown out of the US.


why do you avoid the fact that your "deporter in Chief" Obama ignored due process (which isn't a right to begin with)?


let me remind you ....


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after only 100 days?


if you say so


and you just stepped on a land mine .. BIGLY


you complain about Trump ignoring due process .. well so did Obama.


but you knew that, right?


https://www.aclu.org/news/human-righ...hance-be-heard


The Ones Obama Left Behind - And Deported Without a Chance to Be Heard

OOF!!


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Old 05-06-2025, 06:17 PM   #193
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A 2nd Judge has ruled against Trump on the use of the Alien Enemies Act.

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U.S. District Judge Alvin Hellerstein said Tuesday that Trump ran afoul of the law, which only may be ignited when there is a declared war or if the U.S., is facing an incursion on its territory.

And he excoriated the administration for providing little opportunity for the men to challenge their alleged association with the Tren de Aragua gang, saying the Trump team was failing to meet the due process protections of the wartime law.

Evidence “that TdA [Tren de Aragua] has engaged in either a ‘war,’ ‘invasion’ or a ‘predatory incursion’ of the United States, do not exist,” Hellerstein wrote, citing the predicates for igniting the law.

“There is nothing in the AEA that justifies a finding that refugees migrating from Venezuela, or TdA gangsters who infiltrate the migrants, are engaged in an ‘invasion;’ or ‘predatory incursion.’ They do not seek to occupy territory, to oust American jurisdiction from any territory, or to ravage territory. TdA may well be engaged in narcotics trafficking, but that is a criminal matter, not an invasion or predatory incursion,” the New York-based judge wrote.

“Thus, I find that the Presidential Proclamation exceeds the scope of the AEA.”
https://thehill.com/regulation/court...crackdown/amp/
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SCOTUS overruled him. Trump can proceed with Alien Enemy Act.
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Old 05-06-2025, 06:20 PM   #195
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Trump can proceed with Alien Enemy Act.
This belongs on the AgedLikeMilk subreddit. Pretty impressive as it instantly curdled.

You seem to have missed two other rulings in two other districts
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